Yeah this was kinda nothing burger update.i'm not a super fan of focusing updates on secondary characters but maybe that's just me.
Yeah this was kinda nothing burger update.i'm not a super fan of focusing updates on secondary characters but maybe that's just me.
I disagree. Leak does not bring supporters, free version does. He is still providing pirates with a free version. The irony of people calling the dev here whiny while whining about having to wait few extra weeks for free version. The entitlement.ah, the classic dev that doesn't understand it's the "leak" that brings the supporters.
really hope he makes a 180 on this, because he is truly talented.
Yeah but if you didnt have this pirate site, you could wipe your ass with your free version, as nobody would see it. Devs are free to complain, but when you project is small and in its diapers, you are purely benefitting from these sites. You could make an argument that once you are big enough, you dont need the "marketing" anymore, but for a small dev? Please.I disagree. Leak does not bring supporters, free version does. He is still providing pirates with a free version. The irony of people calling the dev here whiny while whining about having to wait few extra weeks for free version. The entitlement.
Studies agree to disagree.I disagree. Leak does not bring supporters, free version does. He is still providing pirates with a free version. The irony of people calling the dev here whiny while whining about having to wait few extra weeks for free version. The entitlement.
Mind you, those studies are for normal video games that get the basic visibility from getting on steam etc. (a lot of them have huge marketing budgets). If you didnt have pirate sites, you would have 0, just your patreon that nobody would find.Studies agree to disagree.
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Of course, it's a controversial take, but Kulman has it 100% correct.
By the way, did you know there are restaurants where people pay however much they want, and they are profitable! Of course, don't imagine those are in 3rd world countries. Just penny for your thoughts.
Again, regarding to what Kulman said, many companies intentionally loose money in order to gain market share, before hitting a price tag.
It's a tale as old as time, see youtube, it was once ad free. Once they got the market share, they slap ad after ad, cause there's no competition anymore, people will consume anyway.
Back to this dev, very small game, show your product is worth it. Than we can talk, but right now, it's dead in the water, unless he fully and positively engages with a... pirate site.
Only a Sith deals in absolutes. World is not black and white, Sith boy. - a petulant childIf you didnt have pirate sites, you would have 0, just your patreon that nobody would find.
" Exaggeration for effect is a rhetorical technique that involves overstating or amplifying a point to create emphasis or to elicit a strong emotional response from the audience. "Only a Sith deals in absolutes. World is not black and white, Sith boy. - a petulant child
For real. So many games i wouldn't know existance of without this site.Do some devs still think that all of the users on this site are demonic little pirates that don't support devs at all? I can guarantee the majority of his patrons found the game on here, liked it, and decided to support him. This site is the biggest platform for adult games, especially with genres like NTR. Every western game I've supported on patreon or other sites was a game that I initially found on here.
Yeah but if you didnt have this pirate site, you could wipe your ass with your free version, as nobody would see it. Devs are free to complain, but when you project is small and in its diapers, you are purely benefitting from these sites. You could make an argument that once you are big enough, you dont need the "marketing" anymore, but for a small dev? Please.
I think both of you are still missing my point. I already agreed that piracy can increase sales, especially for niche things like porn games. I am one of those, that tries the games here and then supports those devs that are active and with a game I really like - Sword art online for example.Studies agree to disagree.
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Of course, it's a controversial take, but Kulman has it 100% correct.
By the way, did you know there are restaurants where people pay however much they want, and they are profitable! Of course, don't imagine those are in 3rd world countries. Just penny for your thoughts.
Again, regarding to what Kulman said, many companies intentionally loose money in order to gain market share, before hitting a price tag.
It's a tale as old as time, see youtube, it was once ad free. Once they got the market share, they slap ad after ad, cause there's no competition anymore, people will consume anyway.
Back to this dev, very small game, show your product is worth it. Than we can talk, but right now, it's dead in the water, unless he fully and positively engages with a... pirate site.
I could not find the exact comment because I cant view their profile "Oops, we encountered an error" message or maybe it was deleted anyways. But this was one of the comments anyways.Hi dude. I know what site this is, but with leaks like this, it's likely we'll no longer be able to make games. A week isn't an unreasonable amount of time to wait, and it would make a huge difference for us.
I get your point, the problem is that you cannot really get a piracy site and then dictate how people pirate. Thats not how it works.I think both of you are still missing my point. I already agreed that piracy can increase sales, especially for niche things like porn games. I am one of those, that tries the games here and then supports those devs that are active and with a game I really like - Sword art online for example.
My point is, that the dev is already giving exposure to his game by providing a free version. Where I disagree with you guys is that leaking it EARLIER gives him additional money. It makes no sense to me that the dev is being called whiny for trying to protect it from leaking earlier.
In fact, one of the games I support, Turning the page, the devs have come out to say that if their game leaks earlier before the free version, they lose loads of money on those months. People are impatient creatures. Thats why in triple AAA market the new money squeezing technique is early access, which for singleplayer games is the most braindead thing ever.
TLDR: Piracy can increase sales but not leaking it before the eventual free release.