Imagine being so butthurt over people not liking NTR lmao. It's entirely on the dev for not being transparent about the content of the game. He made it seem like characters fucking others would be optional as he said it would be avoidable NTR and NTS with not mentions of BSS.
You can get assmad over people not liking that stuff but regardless most people don't like to see people they're attracted to fucking other people or showing sexual/romantic interest in other people the definitions are just created to describe their feelings they don't come out of thin air. BSS and NTR sort of ruin any semblence of romance because it's tainted by the idea that they're not only interested in other people but also fucking them. If the dev wants the game to be that way it's fine the problem is the lack of transparency on the fetish side despite listing most of them. He shouldn't delete the fetishes from the game but anyone who isn't into NTR related stuff is justified in being upset or confused based on the information he gave themas it didn't seem like they'd be fucking each other without player initiation in some way i.e. NTS or the avoidable NTR.
Dev released a patreon render of the MC in their room wearing a pink personality outfit with hearts in their eyes so I assume this is coming back next update.
Page is getting the Quarantined message when attempting to download so I would not worry about it for now as that normally moves to being reviewed and then it will end up getting pulled again, given the first page was pulled by itch we assume this one will as well.
Substar fell to the usual substar issue, pending approval. Sometimes this can take months in the end the dev pulled it but then made a post they were going to try again.
Oh I knew it was pending for months but I thought the fact it disappeared meant it was rejected. Is this a common issue with subscribestar? I thought it used to be as easy as just making an account and setting it up.
Many devs I have spoken to have said it can months for it be approved, you ask support and get the same generic response back, in this case the dev deleted the sub page while it was still pending but after losing the itch page decided to create another one, which I feel won't help their cause of getting it approved.
Thank you mate I appreciate you giving me info. Any idea as to why itch nuked his page?
Since there is no mean for me to contac dev anymore.
I kinda want to know though. With the whole personality thingy, and the whole speech he had abt how he didn't want ppl to think he just came with a koikatsu game without any plan and how he wanted to make a great and complete game even though it's his 1st one. I was leaning favorably towards multiple paths (dom/sub/vanilla/switch maybe even more variation given how complex the personality thing is).
So yeah I was wondering if you have any information on wether we'll be able to turn femboy into chad femboy lol. I mean that's so funny, I actually don't think anyone ever gave their character this chara-design and let them dom. It'll be an interesting thing for sure if it happens.
I won't lie it would be pretty disappointing if such an interesting feature as the one he introduced ends up only serving a sub path.
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Does patreon have this high of a barrier to entry? I do hope subscribestar gets approved because although I called it "incest" I believe he removed the incest purely because of patreon rules which doesn't make sense considering the title of the game implies incest is a big thing. I can only hope subscribestar actually approves him too because even with the gaming being censored for patreon his game is very likely still getting nuked regardless because it takes place at a school despite what he says.
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6 months my comment didnt make anyone angry... until now ... You are pathetic ChubbySquirtChaser... Your name is as childish as you bro
Twisted world has a femboy protagonist that doms futas. It's rarer for it to be the opposite as far as I know especially within Koikatsu based games. I think he should stick to the story he's written because at this content pace creating an entirely new route would just slow down updates even more.
As for itch I don't know but I'd assume it would be nuked for the same reason patreon nukes stuff. Credit card companies threaten to not process transactions if they have specific tags on fictional content.
honestly main reason why I would never support this devs as things stand, luckily I decided to wait a bit to make sure and I was right, according to what people are saying here, he did pull a rug and pull and is going full NTR on us. Miss me with that shit, don't want within even a lightyear of me. If only devs were more transparents, they say something is avoidable, they boom unavoidable. And for the record, if you have to option to not see it but it still canonically happens, then it's unavoidable
Agreed, closing your eyes doesn't mean it didn't happen lol. Honestly NTS is usually more compatible with romance because it's usually optional whereas NTR or BSS has them lust after and/or fuck other people without your input. NTR specificially also has a problem where if a universe exists where a girl would cheat on you when you're in a relationship it sours "romantic" playthroughs knowing that they're a cheater even if she doesn't have the opportunity to do it on your route.
I don't think it's intentional it's just some people are so deep in their fetishes they don't know what average joes don't like. It's like how some "harem" games will say "absolutely zero NTR" and then have threesomes where the girls are basically lusting over each other despite being "in love" with you and then they act confused if people complain because they're so deep into their sharing fetish that they don't realise some people might not be on board with that especially if the game was seemingly romantic.
100% agree, it kinda ruins the whole game and story
To be fair, if it's a harem game and both girls are in a relationship with MC, I wouldn't view it as an NTR since the MC is in a relationship with both and both like the MC, I do not see it as sharing, as I quite hate that shit too XD. But I guess, I see where you're coming from
I would definitely see it as sharing and it's usually unmarked unavoidable sharing at that which is why it's annoyingly common for devs say "no ntr or sharing" but then put it in anyways upsetting some fans because the devs weren't transparent about the content. But yeah it's comparable here with the lack of BSS due to the dev assuming people wouldn't care.
BSS is more-or-less "protag has a one-sided crush on a girl but never got in a relationship with her and then she dated someone else and now the protag feels cucked by it". Weird name for a niche scenario that people at some point probably ranted and argued about if it was "technically" NTR or not.
I don't think it applies to this game's story because so far Riko is too much of a pussyboi to even consider if he has romantic feelings for any of the girls he just met, for now its just a series of comedy sexual hijinks that make Riko feel embarassed.
QuestionTime thinks it counts as "player BSS" for some people because even if the protagonist of the story doesn't care, "what if the player himself developed a crush on a character that was introduced and then later discovered that character was already in a relationship with a different character?"
Specially considering that Riko is not even much of a self-insert protagonist (can't rename him, not an "anon face" silhouette, pretty much no choices to customize his characterization at the start), I think that's a complete overreaction, similar to someone watching straight porn and then getting offended and complaining that it should be tagged as bisexual porn because in one shot a man's ass was visible while he was fucking a girl.
Dude, like you said yourself earlier, this is a futa family incest with a femboi protag porn game, what the fuck are you even talking about "average joes" and what they don't like?
At some point it needs to be understood that kinkier porn scenarios and plots tacitly require more leniency from the audience, by its very essence and central fetishes this game is already a few miles past "average joe" expectations.
Onori x Yui delivers on the futa incest anyone would be expecting from this game's premise and introduction (ffs the very prologue of the game had Onori playfully smacking Yui's ass), sorry if it made anyone feel cucked or whatever but I think it is really silly to blame the dev on this one. This is the wrong place to be looking for total vanilla romance with completely "normal" and exclusive relationships (or at the very least the incest stuff should take precedence).
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Ayooo duuude, 1st thank you for making me discover the game twisted world. Like I created a whole thread just to find similar games lol Idk how I missed it.
So yeah, thank you but from what I read in the summary (correct me if I'm wrong) futas aren't the main focus in that game. SO yeah nothing surprising. I'm searching for one where they are the main focus and the only one the I know of which offer such options (dom/sub) at the present time is Final spell.
Anyway, personally I don't rly care what rendering style is used. Wether it be Daz, koikatsu and so on. As long as it's renpy and if I stretch it, a rpgm game.
And I can tell you for sure that there ARE MUCH MORE games where femboys built character take it than the othe other way around (well this one rly is strong on that shota vibe but Ig the koikatsu style complements it well). here are some : star periphery, futaisekai, small coffee, becoming a femboy and... Oh and a game just got out where it seems to be the same "degenerate university" (I may be wrong though didn't play it). SO yeah bro I tried all of them in hope of finding one where the would have an MCdom path bc smt tags don't say everything abt a game. I won't even mention how some of them are missing tags... but none of them had it (atleast when I tried them). And that man, was only the list of games where futas are the main focus. There are a lot more out there where you can play femboy built like character being mainly abt femdom and most often including some futas in them.
Like dude it's alrdy super hard finding games with femdom as the initial settings where we can make MC slowly take over. I can only count 3/4, I like to call them role reversal or domination reversal games : Estate dominate (abandoned), Karlsson's gambit, Blossom of pleasure, and maybe Twisted world from what I understood in its overview.
Now when you notice that, it's not surprising that when even the protagonist doesn't look the part (look like smn who'll dom "stereotype") it's even rarer.
So yeah I think you're wrong if you meant that in a general way. However, if you meant it only for koikatsu games then maybe you're right. Honestly I don't play remember playing many of them. But honestly I doubt it, you litteraly said : "Twisted world has a femboy protagonist that doms futas. It's rarer for it to be the opposite as far as I know especially within Koikatsu based games."
And I'm not complaining, I mean it's normal they were originally imagined with this in mind. The name is self-explanatory (femboy) lol . I just like it when dev/s offer multiple options and offer paths that contradict each other.
I understand where you're coming from but don't necessarily agree. A lot of masterpieces came to life bc the original direction changed. We wouldn't have Drangon Ball Z (which is a classic of the shonen genre who set the bar for other, arguably the best shonen or most influencial if you prefer) if not for the editor telling Toriyama that he needs to step up his game from the adventure trope OG Dragon Ball had.
Apart from that, what mainly attracted me to renpy AVN is the possibility to choose to go down a path you like. I mean that's awesome! You don't have these options when you watch a show, read a novel (some do nowadays though), manga or whatever. It's always jus you following the protagonist's journey even when you don't necessarily agree with choices he makes.
I'd say having the option to choose is arguably the best feature of such games.
Look, I'm not saying he should go all in 50/50 right from the start if he didn't plan such a path. However, he could go 85/15 at 1st and as he gets more attuned to that rythm increase the ratio step by step. The most important thing is communication and a clear respected schedule. Devlogs help a lot with that.
A lot of devs grow with their work or during their carrer in general. I don't think they should hinder their growth bc of fear. They alrdy took a big step by releasing their games. The key is to keep balance and stay organized.
The potential of this game's real and without the personality system I would've alrdy dropped (as it'd be clear it'd just be another futa on male game). I just found it so interesting and it opened so many possibilities that it hyped me.
Like, let's be honest, doing a whole set of personality stats, sets... only to keep MC a sub would be disappointing when you compare it to the potential that system has. And man, just in case I have nothing against sub players I just like it when everyone get to enjoy what they enjoy and renpy games offer this possibility.
Didn't know itch followed the same rules as patreon, I saw some ppl mentionning incest... So the only one not giving a damn is subscribestar? Also didn't play the 2 latest updates but why're ppl talking abt non avoidable NTR?
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For me, I didn't like how the bigger sister seemed reserved and bashful like when she was freaking out over her butt being exposed in the library and then bam turns out she's been fucking her little sister for years. It didn't feel earned from the perspective of the VN. It's not an implausible scenario in the context of the world within the game but, the readers have been with these characters for all of five minutes and there's been character development in only certain directions (no hints to the contrary either) then we get a 180.
Yes, this seems like an obvious outcome to experienced gooners. Just look at the MC. This is yet another case of a dev not being specific enough about what kind of story he planned to tell. Or maybe he was and I just forgot over these months.
Yes, this seems like an obvious outcome to experienced gooners. Just look at the MC. This is yet another case of a dev not being specific enough about what kind of story he planned to tell. Or maybe he was and I just forgot over these months.
Naaah ain't no way man!! are you sure it's not just bc he could only progress one path during this update? Maybe if you choose another personality to lvl up we can avoid that.
But wait wdym by NTR bc smt ppl go this NTR blabla and in the end bro you didn't even get in a relationship with the girl. However honestly I kinda expected smt similar to happen in the family bc well it was hinted that they were freaky lol.Technically aren't we the one doing the NTR in this case since we came after?
Wouldn't it fall more under sharing than NTR since they are basically part of your "harem" or you are part of theirs if you go down a sub path. I still think we should be offered the choices like some games do
Honestly, I didn't play for 2 or 3 updates so I don't rly know what it's all abt.
At 1st I agreed with that and was going to delete the game but the whole personality system changed things and gave the player a lot more freedom to immerse himself in the story. And Ik that's prbbly why you said at the start. I just wanted to point it out.
I think most will agree when I say that one of the biggest reasons ppl enjoy a good prologue that introduces your character well is bc it lets you immerse yourslef in that character. "You're ... , an orphan who's been bullied his entire life. It's the main reason as to why you've always like being alone more. However, you always dreamed to achieve greatnes, to show those who mocked you that you can prove them wrong blabla". Just from this I can kinda assume that I shouldn't expect to see MC being a chad from the start. I can also assume that maybe we'll have choices that could include moral/success choices. I shouldn't expect MC to be extrovert, outgoing and having some games with the girls. We'll most prbbly see him grow as the plot advances.
I, myself don't necessarily immerse 100 of me in a character I play but I always even if a little bit. I mean that's kinda why a lot of people don't play this game or another. It's bc they don't see or fantasize abt themself doing it this or that way.
Now don't get me wrong, there is the fap material category where you basically have beautiful art/renders, but rather boring plot/gameplay/choices. In this one most of the time ppl don't care who the MC is and just immerse themself in whatever character fit their psyche the most. That's even true in good plot games, that's why smt ppl have secondary paths where some kinks of theirs are fufilled but unfortunately it's not the MC doing the kink but rather he is on the receiving end.
I mean it's a pretty complex concept but I hope I was atleast a bit understandable. I don't rly know how to put word into wit myself lol
So yeah, even though sure we couldn't customize MC's name. We can still immerse in his character by knowing abt his origins how he acts, his habits... Plus you've to account for that this isn't a show, a book or whatever. It's a renpy choice based game. Last time I checked, this doesn't have the kinetic tag.
Plus it's the start of a story which will involve a lot of character development wether for MC himself or for those around him as the story evolves.
WE choose the days he goes to shcool, WE choose when to advance certain events, WE choose other things lol.
Also, it wouldn't make sense for him to have an anon face or invisible body lol. The fact that he is a femboy is obviously there to attract certain types of players. Also, since he doesn't look super manly (body hairs, manly face...) makes it a lot easier for those who wants to see him get screwed up to enjoy it. Yk like the guys who enjoy female protag games with corruption where she ends up as a cumsl$t lol. I doubt all of them immerse themselves as the protagonist in most of these cases. It's their kink seeing smn they manipulated into getting "corrupted".
Oh and b4 smn get offended for no reason, I have nothin against such players, I'm just using them as an exemple lol.
Mmmm, I completely agree with the fact that if MC isn't in a relationship with any of them it'd be weird for them to commit to him. However (generally) if smt is clearly growing between him and an LI and she still went and did smt with other ppl. Then maybe it's part of the plot and is required to move on with their relationship with MC discovering and having the option to
1- end whatever was blooming between them
2- He wants her to stop seeing other if he's not participating in the fun
3- doesn't care as long as it's a girl, sterile futa (that girl part has nothing objective though lol).
It's not rly NTR if they are just seggsbuddies.
Abt that spank Onori gave Yui. Honestly, it doesn't hint much, sure you could think, oh kinky. But a lot of games have such scenes and nothing is going on between the best firends/sisters/... Until MC often comes in and interferes in their relationship often leading to a choice similar to the one I presented above. If this was going on from even b4 MC settled in the house it'd have been better to show or even just hint at it sooner. SO that the Players would feel more as the NeToRi guy rather than the NeToraRe guy.
Apart from that Idk what ppl expected, it's obvious MC isn't the dominant type. Atleast when he's intorduced. It's heavily hinted just from his behavior that he'll be a sub and this often involves NTR. I myself was going to drop the game when I saw the personality system which gave me hope to see other paths. However, even I know that MC can't turn from a shy, bullied MC to a confident, dominant chad overnight lol. This is actually more entertaining since we'll get to see how ppl will change their behavior around him as he grows into the version we want him to be.
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I also like this guy's point so I'll include it in my reasoning :
Well, yk what they say be aware of the quiet ones they're often the freakiest lol. It's a trop though, having a character being comfortable doing the craziest sh1t as long it's not known lol or with a specific person
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One last thing, is we ALL KNOW HOW PPL GET WHEN IT COMES TO NTR or anything related to it. Idk if dev/s didn't play AVNs b4 but if he did I think it's a rookie mistake not to prepare the field for what's to come.
Hey man, no hate I still think you made some serious points which I agree with. I just wanted to give my opinion on some of them. Also take into account that I didn't playe the latest (2-3) updates (bc I'm kinda affraid that dev/s go only sub paths, so I'm putting the game onhold until maybe dev make an announcement or clearly sattate that there will be more than a sub path).
(feel free to correct or point out anything I said my keyboard is buggy so smt I miss letter or words. I'm also too lazy to review if anything I wrote made sense or organize it so it does lol. Sry if it ends up being non understandable lol)
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The dialogue in the Onori x Yui scene states they haven't been fucking in a long while now, Onori is a horndog but Yui had been trying to change her ways into being more chaste. Presumably Yui had been successfully shutting Onori down, but the built up arousal from the embarassing scenarios that happened in the story events with the MC made her crack and let Onori push her way into them having sex again.
Idk if the dev will make it a "futa libido" thing or if Yui herself is just a bit of a "secret nympho". In either case, this scene happened in the first update that was focused on Yui, it is not like the dev went through a year's worth of updates leading on the player into thinking Yui was a pure maiden only to then change course and make her a a naughty girl. If people can't wait until a character's first update to figure out what their story will be about, then I don't know how a dev can be more "specific" about the story they want to tell without just spoiling everything.
You are actually forced to go to school every weekday.
You choose when the events advance but there is no difference if you do it earlier or later (so the argument here would be the same as saying every game is not kinetic because you always have the choice to just stop playing).
The only other choices so far were uhhhh, fluff dialogue in the prologue with aunt Suzuki, the choice to prevent the PE gym from perving on Yui (which is where the dev is planning to put the actual optional NTR stuff), and the choice of the order in which you wipe Eri down during her event (which doesn't change the final result in the slightest). Even the choice of which girl to pursue is not a free one, for instance, progressing Yui's route to get the Onori x Yui scene requires that you have already seen all the current Onori relationship scenes, presumably to avoid continuity errors such as Riko's reaction not changing regardless of when he first saw that Onori has a dick.
I'm sure the dev will eventually add at least a few actual branching choices, but so far I'm not expecting this game to be a very complex one with many meaningful choices (which is fine, I don't mind more linear games if the story is still fun, I just think some people are setting themselves up for disappointment with some pretty unfounded expectations).
As for the rest, generally I will just say that you can immerse yourself into a character, just don't blame the dev when you self-insert some expectations that go directly against what's established by the story setting and by the characters' own words.
I don't get why people are expecting a commited exclusive romantic harem dynamic around the femboi protag in the futa incest videogame to the point that they are crying NTR about the fact 2 futa sisters are fucking each other, yet here we are.
Personally when I saw a game called "my futa family" with a femboi protagonist I only really expected 2 things, futa incest and the MC will take some futa dick. Anything else is extra, so I'd reconsider complaints that effectively oppose more futa incest (complaining about the futa family having more incestual relationships) or the MC taking futa dick (I actually think there will be some scenes where the MC gets to top, I just think it is unavoidable that the MC will be bottoming for most of it and it would be a mistake to expect otherwise).