if he changed the game name then it would be better
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Yeah! I thought it'd be a cool story about a couple experimenting together and sharing his wife. In the end, we got a game in which the MC is a pathetic submissive and doesn't even get to touch his wife anymore. The dev should change the name of the game, cause it's misleading
He definitely should change the name, cause this is beyond sharing his wife.
Where exactly does our MC object to being treated that way? He loves it. Maybe you don't. But as far as he's concerned, that's just part and parcel of helping his wife get sexual pleasure. Just because it's nothing to do with conventional sex, doesn't mean it's not sexual at all. You're just attributing your own limitations as to what constitutes acceptable sexual relations to other people. And not surprisingly some people enjoy different things than you do.
So sorry, I totally disagree with you. Hotwifing includes any sexual act from which the wife or female sexual partner derives sexual satisfaction. And if that includes, getting added sexual pleasure, from having her partner licking cum out of her pussy (and he's quite willing to do that), then I dont see how you can say that has nothing to do with hotwifing. Whatever they end up doing, there is still an element of humiliation, in all hotwifing. It goes with the territory. And however far a couple decides to take it, is entirely up to them. As you say it's a mutual decision, as is everything that happens in this game. And you hating the outcome, doesn't make it any less so.
Put any 5 couples together, who practise hotwifing, and I guarantee they'll all give you a different definition of what it means to them. There is no simple definition of what it is, beyond the fact that it's mainly about satisfying the female partner's sexual needs, in a mutually acceptable manner. That sometimes might include the male partner taking part, but that isn't usually a primary consideration.
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I had several experiences with sharing, I did with my ex, I did with couples etc. So I know what I'm talking about, the term Hotwife means sharing your wife, it's a mutual agreement between their partners, nothing less and nothing more. I don't have a problem with that, sharing is cool. The thing I absolutely dislike, is the fact that the MC absolutely gets nothing, he's not even allowed to touch his wife outside the sexual experiences. This is NOT Hotwife territory. It's one thing going and enjoying seeing your wife, girlfriend or even fucking the girl/ wife of a friend while he/ you watches but it's totally different story when your wife/ girlfriend doesn't allow you anymore to have intercourse with her or him. This is way beyond Hotwife, this is a humiliation and as nothing to do with sharing an intimate moment.
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how...how is the netorare tag removed...this is the most netorare of netorare game available. this is the most hardcore cucking ive ever seen.
yeah no once the dev put in choices that aren't actually choices and heavily steering and pushing the mc into being the accepting cuck he is it kinda turned into a "gallery" game for me, as in the story is so infuriating i only check out the galleries since that way i can skip over the garb and i enjoy some of the scenes if i dont have to think about any of the characters
Once again your attributing your version of hotwifing to other people. That's the decision you've come to with your partner and nothing more than that. Other people are free to come to completely different decisions about what they want to do. In this game, the wife doesn't stop the MC from having sex with her, they both mutually agree that that should happen. You've completely misread what has actually happened, probably because you're so disgruntled by it happening at all.
What you described could only be netorare, if the wife was doing it behind his back or against his wishes. Neither of which occurs, so it isn't netorare. If it's anything, it's netorase, because both parties have mutually agreed to what happens, and as long as that's the case, the degree of any cucking makes no difference.
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netorase on this site is tagged netorare. there is no tag for netorase...and if you're being denied sex and even most sexual gratification with your wife while she fucks other men, it STARTED as netorase and has become netorare.
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I think the whole discussion about what the game is or isn't is a secondary battleground.
The main issue is that player choices simply don't matter and the story has devolved into a degrading story trying to find any more ways to make the MMC an idiotic moron instead of a poly- or hotwife participant. As a player you literally have no control about anything. If you take out the MMC entirely nothing would change the overall game. That is lazy story telling at it's finest.
It feels like the idea was good but the developer lost track (or never had an outline on the different paths he pretends to exist in the game).
The main issue is that player choices simply don't matter and the story has devolved into a degrading story trying to find any more ways to make the MMC an idiotic moron instead of a poly- or hotwife participant. As a player you literally have no control about anything. If you take out the MMC entirely nothing would change the overall game. That is lazy story telling at it's finest.
It feels like the idea was good but the developer lost track (or never had an outline on the different paths he pretends to exist in the game).
No. Hotwife is sharing your wife with someone else, easy as that.
Putting a chasity cage goes towards the BDSM category, we are no longer in the sharing territory. It's like handcuffing your girl and blindfolding her, this goes in the soft BDSM category and so on. Categories are made for a reason pal. If you suddenly would go and suck someone's dick, this would make you either gay or bi, again, words have their meanings for a reason.
What are you talking about, the wife definitely stops the MC from having sex with her, he literally asked many times if she could just even touch him or suck him and she plainly refuses even after the encounters, saying that she would not want to touch a pathetic cock like his.
You seem to have this weird idea, that hotwifing can only meet what you consider acceptable. That's your interpretation, other people can include whatever the hell they want. Simply wearing a chastity cage, doesn't mean that the male partner is no longer sharing his wife, it makes absolutely no difference to that. And for your information, me sucking a dick would make me neither gay or bi.
Early in the game, the MC can decide whether to continue having sex with his wife or to forgo it in future. There's also a similar decision, where he can ask his wife to belittle him during sex or not. If you make both these decisions in the affirmative, then the MC is literally telling his wife to do these things to him in future, no matter whatever he wants in that moment. The whole point of this, is that she takes control and refuses to give him what he wants, if he suddenly gets horny. The MC wants that to happen, he wants to be denied and/or belittled.
Now I get that you don't like that, and it's not part of what you consider to be hotwifing. But other people can think differently, and come to another conclusion. As long as it's mutually agreed beforehand by both partners, then these things are nothing more than variations of the typical hotwifing experience, which is the male partner allowing his wife or girlfriend to fuck other men, and as long as that still happens, it's still hotwifing whatever you decide to believe.
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In the understanding of any person at least a little familiar with this topic, hotwifing is just slang meaning that the husband 'lends' his beloved to another person. There are no allegories or misunderstandings here.
In the love relationship of husband and wife, nothing changes except this.
What we see in this VN has no relation to hotwife, as you have already been told many times. This is pure netorase.
Perhaps the author initially tried to make 2 branches hotwifing and netorase , but did not succeed.
this message is pretty close to my conclusions
There is no clear interpretation of what hotwifing means. That's just an illusion. It means different things to different people. This idea that everything has to fit neatly into a particular category is just silly. The only clear thing you can say about hotwifing, is that the husband/male partner allows his wife/female partner to sleep with other men. Everything else is open to interpretation, depending on the individual desires and needs of the couple in question. There's no set rules that only certain sexual acts are permissible, like you and others seem to be suggesting.
It's obvious you don't like the content of this game and the direction it's going, and it's purely based on that, that you've decided it's not a hotwifing game. It has absolutely no relation to what hotwifing is or isn't, but entirely to what you do or don't like. Because why else would you be making all these crazy claims, that sexual acts aren't really sexual acts (BDSM is clearly a sexual act, regardless of what people on here would have us believe). And for your information hotwifing comes under the banner of netorase:
netorase (uncountable) (Japanese pornography, slang) A genre of sharing or cuckoldry pornography where a protagonist's love interest has sex with others, which the protagonist enjoys, actively encourages or even causes.
That's pretty much what hotwifing is, and yet you seem to believe they're completely different things.
Be honest, this is all to do, with you not getting the routes through the game, that you'd prefer. You and others are angry because you thought the Dev was going to provide multiple routes, and instead we've got a pretty linear route, with the kind of content you don't like. It's got absolutely zero to do, with whether this game is actually hotwifing or not. I've had this discussion multiple times in multiple games. Devs primarily make the kind of content they like, and although they might want to initially provide multiple routes, it just proves unfeasible, because they don't have the time or skills, to do it efficiently, so we end up with a more linear game, which inevitably means some people don't get what they want. So the guy above who you quoted, saying it was lazy storytelling, could be well wide of the mark, because it's simply the Dev deciding to get practical and making a game that he has a realistic chance of delivering?
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Funny, so many false conclusions from false premises.
First of all, I like the content but I don't like where it's going (or rather, I don't like the lack of any opportunity to influence what's happening).
Now about the unimportant - I basically don't care what the name of this VN is, but if I was guided by the name
I would have passed by because hotwifing is absolutely not interesting to me.
I hope you understood the message correctly.
Аnd finally the subject of the dispute.
However, I'm more than sure that my arguments won't work on you, because you live somewhere in a parallel reality.)
First of all, I like the content but I don't like where it's going (or rather, I don't like the lack of any opportunity to influence what's happening).
Now about the unimportant - I basically don't care what the name of this VN is, but if I was guided by the name
I would have passed by because hotwifing is absolutely not interesting to me.
I hope you understood the message correctly.
Аnd finally the subject of the dispute.
That's right, but in these relationships, partners don't stop having relationships with each other. Encouraging your partner to sleep with others is not the same as wearing a chastity belt or licking your partner's pussy after sex with others, and it's certainly not ignoring your partner's desires.
However, I'm more than sure that my arguments won't work on you, because you live somewhere in a parallel reality.)
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Again, that’s not Netorare. Netorare is the “taking of another” against the wishes or unbeknownst to the husband/BF. If he takes sexual gratification watching his wife with another that’s sharing or cuck, not Netorae. Yeah, the tags are all wonky on this site, but Netorare is not cuck in the modern sense. This game is more hotwifing/sharing although, if I remember correctly there is a dude the wife gets it on with where she doesn’t tell the husband. That would be Netorare. They really need to update their tags And make it more clear.
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what gratification? hes got a cage on and she won't touch him? "taking of another" she literally said she's never fucking him again...just cause she lets him watch doesn't mean she hasn't been taken from him.