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Yeah I agree tho I get good vibes from this game I don't think it's gonna end up as your typical NTR/NTS game

Also back to your post about the blue pill that fucking pissed me off I was like woah no need to put him on blast like that
Yeah I felt she is always disrespectful with him, even before the bathroom scene she shared intimate details about their married life to a total stranger. I guess it shows how much dumb, uncaring, unloving she is.

I hope it goes in different direction than other NTR/NTS type but last scene shows he caved in.
Whenever this line is used work-56 - final verdict - 6 - we know when this words is used Hutch really don't wants to do it.jpg it means that Hutch is extremely against it but ultimately just caves in.

A really good summary.
However, every blackmailer pursues a plan with the aim of gaining an advantage from it and putting the other party under pressure.
Christian could read Vivian from the begining when she melted away right in front of him. He uses the knowledge he has gained to influence her.
With Christian manipulating Vivian and mentioning the loss of Huutch's job if she doesn't give in to work on the little project conditions for blackmail are met.

To let Vivian say that Christian was just posturing and not giving her a veilled threat is the fact that she demanded being it the last time and all the debts from Huutch are paid which Christian accepted, knowing full well that he could easily manipulate her again.
I agree to some of the things you say. He knew from experience what kind of woman Vivian is. And how to handle her. But my point is even before the threat she let him put her in a compromising position, locking the door and giving him access to put his leg between her. work - 8 - convince her - 7 - let him go between legs - 1.jpg work - 8 - convince her - 7 - let him go between legs - 2.jpg
He said "What if I insist" to which she replied that their debt are paid. And he knew for now she needed an excuse which he gave her. The whole thing was a what if scenario he presented and knew that she will give in, cause she wanted to give in. Why else she didn't leave the building after declaring that she didn't want to work for him. Cause she wanted to happen something and she knew subconsciously that he can change her mind though she really wanted to work for him so can be near him it's just Hutch attitude in the weekend and fear of her marriage made her doubt her want. And how did Christian knew she was in the bathroom unless she told her or he watched from camera.

In the kitchen scene Christian actually told her the threat is in her head. bull was right -2.jpg

And every time he is clear that he isn't forcing her to do anything, she can always leave. bull was right.jpg work-8-word dont match action - 5-bull is right - 1.jpg work-8-word dont match action - 5-bull is right - 2.jpg work-8-word dont match action - 5-bull is right - 3.jpg
And the last time thing feels she is telling it more to herself otherwise why would she needs him to promise that. Cause she knows she can't control herself around him.
It confirms more when she wanted Hutch to be her guard dog but we know from kitchen scene how it ended work-50 - he knows it didn't work last time - 1.jpg

She accepted the open marriage pretty quickly and started to daydream work-41 - accepted pretty quickly and thinking what can happen - 1.jpg work-41 - accepted pretty quickly and thinking what can happen - 2 - she hopes for it.jpg work-41 - accepted pretty quickly and thinking what can happen - 3 - she hopes for it.jpg

She stopped crying & was actually pretty exited about it work-40 - I think she is excited.jpg work-40 - I think she is excited - 2 - she isn't crying anymore.jpg work-40 - I think she is excited -3 - she isn't crying anymore.jpg it's like yay everything is now going the way I wanted.

So No I don't think she actually felt pressured or gave in to blackmail. Even if it's blackmail then it's like those Jap VN blackmail where the bull blackmails wife with her cleavage picture (and later she becomes a porn actress).

She never felt guilty for cheating, she always feared for the consequences till the update ends with open marriage. yes girl.jpg
 

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Yeah I felt she is always disrespectful with him, even before the bathroom scene she shared intimate details about their married life to a total stranger. I guess it shows how much dumb, uncaring, unloving she is.

I hope it goes in different direction than other NTR/NTS type but last scene shows he caved in.
Whenever this line is used View attachment 4701705 it means that Hutch is extremely against it but ultimately just caves in.


I agree to some of the things you say. He knew from experience what kind of woman Vivian is. And how to handle her. But my point is even before the threat she let him put her in a compromising position, locking the door and giving him access to put his leg between her. View attachment 4701720 View attachment 4701721
He said "What if I insist" to which she replied that their debt are paid. And he knew for now she needed an excuse which he gave her. The whole thing was a what if scenario he presented and knew that she will give in, cause she wanted to give in. Why else she didn't leave the building after declaring that she didn't want to work for him. Cause she wanted to happen something and she knew subconsciously that he can change her mind though she really wanted to work for him so can be near him it's just Hutch attitude in the weekend and fear of her marriage made her doubt her want. And how did Christian knew she was in the bathroom unless she told her or he watched from camera.

In the kitchen scene Christian actually told her the threat is in her head. View attachment 4701732

And every time he is clear that he isn't forcing her to do anything, she can always leave. View attachment 4701734 View attachment 4701735 View attachment 4701736 View attachment 4701737
And the last time thing feels she is telling it more to herself otherwise why would she needs him to promise that. Cause she knows she can't control herself around him.
It confirms more when she wanted Hutch to be her guard dog but we know from kitchen scene how it ended View attachment 4701754

She accepted the open marriage pretty quickly and started to daydream View attachment 4701766 View attachment 4701767 View attachment 4701768

She stopped crying & was actually pretty exited about it View attachment 4701776 View attachment 4701774 View attachment 4701775 it's like yay everything is now going the way I wanted.

So No I don't think she actually felt pressured or gave in to blackmail. Even if it's blackmail then it's like those Jap VN blackmail where the bull blackmails wife with her cleavage picture (and later she becomes a porn actress).

She never felt guilty for cheating, she always feared for the consequences till the update ends with open marriage. View attachment 4701738
Like it's one thing to say that stuff to a random lover but when that lover is your husbands boss that's massively over stepping the mark , I'm telling it's domestic abuse but only emotional rather than violence pretty sure the emotional side of it still comes under domestic abuse

When she is like I need to hear you say it , it's almost like bullying I can't think of what the right words are that I want to use for it , but essentially she's applying unneeded pressure on him , which also supports my abuse theory haha

And don't even start me on the what if he does something inappropriate again and you could be there to make sure he behaves like this bitch legit forgets it takes two to tango , this is her victim mentality I've mentioned before like what ever happens she only ever sees herself as the victim rather than the perpetrator

All and all she's just a massive cunt hahah I rest my case hahaha

Also I had mentioned this before but let me know what you think

Now this next point is definitely based around what has happened in the game and I can evidence it and I would say this could be the most likely idea or theory to it all

So it is clear to see that when there is some form of conflict that directly involves her she doesn't know how too or lacks the ability to problem solve and actual deal with an issue in a proper way

So from what I have seen Vivians go to resolution to a conflict is her body/sex , so here are my examples: hutch may or may not lose his job so that effects money into the house .... Resolution - Vivian fucks Christian , Vivian can clearly see that hutch is not himself and she believes that he is mad/upset with her... Resolution - sexy times and actually goes to the point where she offers anal but when hutch rejects this she is like a fish out of water and has no idea what to do next , in that same scene she actually references that hutch can never stay mad at her when she turns it on and offers out the sexy good times so it is clear to see there is a trend of this

So it could just be that this is what happened and before she knew it the situation got out of control and got away from her.
 

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So interesting how different people can interpret this AVN and every render in a different way. Many see Vivian as an unredeemable slut who fucks Christian as the earliest opportunity. While others see her as a victim of circumstance doing what she thinks is best for her family, while being swept up in Christian's manipulations.
All I know for certain is that this for me is the most interesting game in the genre and the next update can't come soon enough. I hope that other devs or potential devs play this and we see the storytelling quality improve of other games as a result.
 

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So interesting how different people can interpret this AVN and every render in a different way. Many see Vivian as an unredeemable slut who fucks Christian as the earliest opportunity. While others see her as a victim of circumstance doing what she thinks is best for her family, while being swept up in Christian's manipulations.
All I know for certain is that this for me is the most interesting game in the genre and the next update can't come soon enough. I hope that other devs or potential devs play this and we see the storytelling quality improve of other games as a result.
Yeah it definitely is , I personally don't see her as an unredeemable slut but I also don't see her as the victim of it all

I think yes it did start with her best intentions but that changes fairly swiftly , personally I think she a bit of a power complex where she thinks she holds all the cards but in fact she really doesn't , I also find that she displays a big victim mentality regarding the situation and regardless of her doing it for hutch it takes to people for the act and you can see as it progresses she gets more into it

My main thing against her is I just don't think she is a nice person in the slightest and find her to be massively disrespectful to hutch as a whole even before she bangs Christian and I genuinely think hutch would be better of with out her I just think she's toxic haha

But truth be told there's only one ending that would genuinely annoy me and that's Vivian comes back to hutch after her sexcapades and they just never talk about what happened and it's just brushed under the rug and forgotten about and they live happily ever after ... Like seriously your just never going to actually talk about what happened haha
 
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Wow! Just when I thought the conversation here was slowing down it explodes again. It still amazes me the passion some of you guys have with the game. It makes me feel good. I really didn't expect this kind of response. That makes what I have to say all the more difficult.

I, unfortunately, have decided to give up on MHB. It started off as a passion project for me and I've put a lot of time and effort into it but reading all the comments in the forum and all the private messages I get, I realize I'm doomed to fail. Everyone is layering on top of me higher and higher expectations that I cannot meet. Everyone is so 'vocal', shall we say, about what they want/hope/expect and anything else is a a let down/disappointment/typical troupe. My simple story is going to fall flat.

It's been kind of stressful and gnaws at my soul. The healthiest thing is to just step away and maybe go back to model railroading. As a consolation prize I've included an outline of what the rest of the script was going to be. You guys can debate the direction I was going, including the ending. Take care, everyone. Thanks.
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Wow! Just when I thought the conversation here was slowing down it explodes again. It still amazes me the passion some of you guys have with the game. It makes me feel good. I really didn't expect this kind of response. That makes what I have to say all the more difficult.

I, unfortunately, have decided to give up on MHB. It started off as a passion project for me and I've put a lot of time and effort into it but reading all the comments in the forum and all the private messages I get, I realize I'm doomed to fail. Everyone is layering on top of me higher and higher expectations that I cannot meet. Everyone is so 'vocal', say we say, about what they want/hope/expect and anything else is a a let down/disappointment/typical troupe. My simple story is going to fall flat.

It's been kind of stressful and gnaws at my soul. The healthiest thing is to just step away and maybe go back to model railroading. As a consolation prize I've included an outline of what the rest of the script was going to be. You guys can debate the direction I was going, including the ending. Take care, everyone. Thanks.
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Wow! Just when I thought the conversation here was slowing down it explodes again. It still amazes me the passion some of you guys have with the game. It makes me feel good. I really didn't expect this kind of response. That makes what I have to say all the more difficult.

I, unfortunately, have decided to give up on MHB. It started off as a passion project for me and I've put a lot of time and effort into it but reading all the comments in the forum and all the private messages I get, I realize I'm doomed to fail. Everyone is layering on top of me higher and higher expectations that I cannot meet. Everyone is so 'vocal', say we say, about what they want/hope/expect and anything else is a a let down/disappointment/typical troupe. My simple story is going to fall flat.

It's been kind of stressful and gnaws at my soul. The healthiest thing is to just step away and maybe go back to model railroading. As a consolation prize I've included an outline of what the rest of the script was going to be. You guys can debate the direction I was going, including the ending. Take care, everyone. Thanks.
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Man, you got me I fell for it
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It started off as a passion project for me and I've put a lot of time and effort into it but reading all the comments in the forum and all the private messages I get, I realize I'm doomed to fail. Everyone is layering on top of me higher and higher expectations that I cannot meet. Everyone is so 'vocal', say we say, about what they want/hope/expect and anything else is a a let down/disappointment/typical troupe. My simple story is going to fall flat.
Joking aside I do wonder if there is an element of truth to this. People's expectations being ridiculously high I mean. Not that it would be the devs fault really, but rather people already planning out in their own mind the beginning, middle and end of this crazy journey. That they are setting themselves up for a fall.
 

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Ого! Только я подумал, что разговор здесь затих, как он снова взорвался. Меня до сих пор поражает страсть, которую некоторые из вас испытывают к игре. Это заставляет меня чувствовать себя хорошо. Я действительно не ожидал такого рода реакции. Это делает то, что я должен сказать, еще более сложным.

К сожалению, я решил отказаться от MHB. Это началось как мой страстный проект, и я вложил в него много времени и усилий, но, прочитав все комментарии на форуме и все личные сообщения, которые я получаю, я понял, что обречен на провал. Все накладывают на меня все более высокие ожидания, которые я не могу оправдать. Все так «громко говорят», как мы говорим, о том, чего они хотят/надеются/ожидают, а все остальное — разочарование/типичная труппа. Моя простая история провалится.

Это было немного напряженно и терзало мою душу. Самое здоровое — просто отойти и, возможно, вернуться к моделированию железных дорог. В качестве утешительного приза я включил набросок того, какой должна была быть остальная часть сценария. Вы, ребята, можете обсудить направление, в котором я двигался, включая концовку. Берегите себя, все. Спасибо.
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Здравствуйте. Наверно у меня совсем плохо с чувством юмора... И даже если это просто шутка в честь первого апреля, то не мой взгляд, самая холодная... Ваша игра лучшая из всех, что есть на этом сайте в жанре НТР!!!!! И, я в этом твёрдо убежден, забрасываю ее как минимум-глупо, как максимально-нормально... С уважением к Вам и нашему труду!!!
 

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He wants to break it to us gently and uses a joke at first to get us used to the thought. How transparent...
 

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Здравствуйте. Наверно у меня совсем плохо с чувством юмора... И даже если это просто шутка в честь первого апреля, то не мой взгляд, самая холодная... Ваша игра лучшая из всех, что есть на этом сайте в жанре НТР!!!!! И, я в этом твёрдо убежден, забрасываю ее как минимум-глупо, как максимально-нормально... С уважением к Вам и всему труду!!!
 

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Wow! Just when I thought the conversation here was slowing down it explodes again. It still amazes me the passion some of you guys have with the game. It makes me feel good. I really didn't expect this kind of response. That makes what I have to say all the more difficult.

I, unfortunately, have decided to give up on MHB. It started off as a passion project for me and I've put a lot of time and effort into it but reading all the comments in the forum and all the private messages I get, I realize I'm doomed to fail. Everyone is layering on top of me higher and higher expectations that I cannot meet. Everyone is so 'vocal', shall we say, about what they want/hope/expect and anything else is a a let down/disappointment/typical troupe. My simple story is going to fall flat.

It's been kind of stressful and gnaws at my soul. The healthiest thing is to just step away and maybe go back to model railroading. As a consolation prize I've included an outline of what the rest of the script was going to be. You guys can debate the direction I was going, including the ending. Take care, everyone. Thanks.
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Caught.Even the April Fool's storytelling is top notch.

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So from what I have seen Vivians go to resolution to a conflict is her body/sex
I agree few things with you. Victim Mentality = Yes; Power Complex = Yes; But I am not sure if she thinks everything is solved with her body/sex. She is a princess character. Who wants everything to go how she wants. And the dominating partner of the main couple. And I really think the backyard thing happened in the heat of the moment influenced/seduced by Christian. English isn't my first language so I may be intercepting it wrong but the only explanation of that scene is in this one sentence cheat.jpg
While others see her as a victim of circumstance doing what she thinks is best for her family
I think yes it did start with her best intentions but that changes fairly swiftly
She had the best interest until she saw Christian wowed --.jpg wowed ---.jpg

After tricked into kissing Christian on the lips tricked-kiss.jpg and later when he showed his domineering side she went to kiss him on her own willing - 1.jpg willing - 2.jpg

And it clearly showed she was fascinated by him facinated - 1.jpg facinated - 2.jpg

She used to have everything that she wanted (the broken high price car is the example) and really have low trust in her husband's ability that is why she went on ahead to convince his boss but instead found a Alpha male with great look who rejected her demand. I think the MOMENT she went to kiss her own made her a unfaithful wife as it's clear indication that she would have cheated then and there if Christian wanted.

I think if it goes the Hotwife path then the ending would be -- She will get a better position/pay in Hutch office, Christian would become her main man with open lover relationship where she will have many sex friends and a cuck husband (no sex), in the finale she will get a promotion and have a threesome with Addison while Hutch sleeps alone thinking she won't be back this night also. (I hope that's not the case)

Have you guys read a popular story in literotica called February Sucks. The original authors ending was different but somewhat likeable but the ending I liked is from another author
 
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