LUCIANO2020

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Please stay calm. i like all your comments, but i don't want it to end like yesterday in the oval office. Besides, my popcorn is empty.
i think the imagination is playing with all of us and some of us gets closer to what the story going to be but at the and just at the we can be sure with the next update. So peaople d not desperate and read other storys . I have found other storys in internet about similar scenerios with differents end path. The more i read the light i feel cause i expect now anything from the story . I wait to get to know which storyline the dev choose which is going to lead to that ending that he promise to be amazing.
 

Hattyrulz

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I checked and I must say that you are completly out of content here.

Christian and Vivian went into the bedroom. Christian locked the door.
Hutch was sitting on the couch.
The lights in the bedroom went off. Hutch walked to the bedroom door.
You hear talking noises while Hutch tries to open the bedroom door.
Hutch standing with his back at the door. Still talking noises to hear.
Hutch walks to another door and sees the guest room.
Hutch walks back to the couch.
Around 22:20 o'clock Hutch lies on the couch and sees moving shadows.
He stands up from the couch, is walking to the bedroom door and hears moaning sounds.

You and Joe should really focus on the content and not just admire those beautiful renders!
i dunno if you have actually played or not but i'll just stop here.. if you have read your own post that i have quoted you wouldnt have reinforced you statement.
 

Gattsu#Struggler

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1. regarding the "do it don't do it" he get angry and says let me be the man of the house for once....
Wrong.
Hutch gets angry and says "let me be the man of the house for once" as Vivian said to him that she doesn't care what Christian wants, what about what she wants!
"Do it don't do it" appears at the bedroom after she wanted to know if he talked to Christian after the bathroom meeting.

then he uses that statement. keeping the flawed logic of vivian aside, hutch kept testing her since the start... if you dont think asking all those specific questions and vivian lying about them all especially the part where he tells vivian he didn't sleep that night and even then she lies... after so many lies how can hutch believe her. so i dont think that... but you interpretation seems confused to me.... as you arent looking at the whole update and how its respective scene connect with each other.
She senses that Hutch might know something. As long Hutch is not coming straight why should she admit. Makes no sense and this way DEV keeps the atmosphere at high level.

2. we only know what christian tells in the story about hutch's job.. now a fact we all know christian is compulsive liar and uses the lies and manipulations to get what he wants. so how can anyone assume that only 2 specific accounts are lost and not the rest. if it is even hutch's fault.
Hutch's new job is keeping account of the little project.
I said nothing about those 2 clients that left. I leave those assumptions to you guys. I'm just wondering why you miss so much content.

3. the talk between hutch and christian is clear manipulation as this was a consequence of vivian and christian talking in the carpark and then when he went back to the office he was behind hutch when vivian was messaging hutch(not christian which you are saying). so again i say you interpretation is confused/confusing.
Yeah he was behind Hutch and was also mindplaying him. That was at midday because he said he would call Addison to bring Hutch some meal!
After that Christian went back to his office and at the end of the shift when Christian switched off the lights to his office he said to Hutch that he should tell Vivian that he's on his way home!
We can assume because Hutch didn't answer any texts that Vivian might reached out to Christian!
Keep focus on the timeframe, bud!

4. how can it be a lie when vivian was the one talking about hutch keeping his job with christian in the bathroom. and there is no talk about the job between hutch and christian. hutch lied about talking to christian but not about the job. and in retrospect after all days of lying and acts of cheating 1 lie is like single water drop in the ocean.
Day 03 s03...read the damn dialoges!
 
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Gattsu#Struggler

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i dunno if you have actually played or not but i'll just stop here.. if you have read your own post that i have quoted you wouldnt have reinforced you statement.
LOL, so you're really ignoring the fact that before it came to the clapping in the bedroom there was actually some talking in the bedroom that all of us besides you have noticed.
Turn on your speakers...or plan to visit a doctor!
 
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TonyMurray

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I appreciate healthy discussion and the exchange of idea and options.
As such my personal belief on her actions place her surely into the streets. Any spouse who would actively and repeatedly betray their other half, and then continuously lie about it! Come on, who would want to live with that (unless that's your kink).

So after 22 years of being a wife, she is a failure. Come on Hutch you know what to do, and where to send her :)
I think there was some misunderstanding with this bit. When someone (Hatty, I think?) said she was for the streets, I interpreted that as "she's going to essentially become a prostitute" - or not that far, perhaps, but basically meaning she was going to start sleeping with everyone. From your comment here, I now take it as meaning Hutch should/would throw her out.

I agree with that personally, but I think Hutch would not do it (or at least not yet). After 22 years of marriage, and who knows how many years before that, it's not as easy to just let go, and Hutch is already showing the signs of that.
check again... but i dont think ill continue this debate anymore.
He's right though, Hutch listens at the door after checking and finding it was locked, and he hears them talking. Then, a little while later, the sex noises (and silhouettes) start up.
 

Sparta VI

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I have just read through the description again. There is one point that has not yet been touched on.
Jealousy. Who or what will she be jealous of? Addison? Of the uninhibited sex that she can only have at Christian's request?
Do we know 100% that christian is single? In the house at the first meeting he says that he is missing someone else in the house, but we know that he likes to lie? On all the material luxuries?
 
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TheDuke9999

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I checked and I must say that you are completly out of content here.

Christian and Vivian went into the bedroom. Christian locked the door.
Hutch was sitting on the couch.
The lights in the bedroom went off. Hutch walked to the bedroom door.
You hear talking noises while Hutch tries to open the bedroom door.
Hutch standing with his back at the door. Still talking noises to hear.
Hutch walks to another door and sees the guest room.
Hutch walks back to the couch.
Around 22:20 o'clock Hutch lies on the couch and sees moving shadows.
He stands up from the couch, is walking to the bedroom door and hears moaning sounds.

You and Joe should really focus on the content and not just admire those beautiful renders!
I'm curious what was the original debate here cause I'm lost lol
 

TonyMurray

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I'm curious what was the original debate here cause I'm lost lol
Gattsu mentioned that Hutch heard talking through the bedroom door before Christian and Vivian started fucking > Hatty disputed this > Gattsu provided screenshots and a play-by-play to confirm it > Hatty said to deescalate, stop talking about it and move on, agree to disagree, etc. :LOL:
 
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TheDuke9999

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Gattsu mentioned that Hutch heard talking through the bedroom door before Christian and Vivian started fucking > Hatty disputed this > Gattsu provided screenshots and a play-by-play to confirm it > Hatty said to deescalate, stop talking about it and move on, agree to disagree, etc. :LOL:
Well that escalated rather quickly lol
 

Gattsu#Struggler

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Gattsu mentioned that Hutch heard talking through the bedroom door before Christian and Vivian started fucking > Hatty disputed this > Gattsu provided screenshots and a play-by-play to confirm it > Hatty said to deescalate, stop talking about it and move on, agree to disagree, etc. :LOL:
Well it started by Hatty saying
after "substantial project" vivian undertook in the backyard do we really need a explanation as to what went on in the bedroom (hint:lot clapping) we just didn't see it doesnt mean the noises and the shadow play were fake... at least that how hutch felt from his reactions.
Trying to enlighten him that there were talking noises before the clapping Hatty like Joe accused me of playing the wrong game or better to play the game again.

DEV said it's beside the backyard the base of his story!
 
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Dealbreaker

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If you had played the game you would now know why we saw these scenes through the view of Hutch!
Man I like your passion, no irony.
It's just sentences starting with "Dev said" - you are certainly giving him his due glory as an author sitting over us running around in the maze he designed. I myself see the fiction rather a bit more independent from it's author. I don't care so much what he said or how he sees his creatures.
 

Dealbreaker

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Just sometimes people mix reality into some given scenes and claim to know what a drawn character is thinking.
The basis for all of us should be the written text. No one should go AGAINST that text (errors can happen to anybody of course). But of course these words can be interpreted in order to draw conclusions regarding the inner worlds of the characters. And we all have to use "reality" as you call it, meaning our life experiences etc. in order to make those conclusions. It doesn't work any other way (so we always "mix" reality iinto it in order to makd sense of it, you do it too). But as I said, one shouldn't deliberately ignore or dismiss or falsly quote something which is in the text. But I haven't seen anybody do this here, to be honest, but I could be wrong.
And take of course the pictures: they are even more open to interpretation of course than text. How you read faces totally depends on your own experiences.
 

Luc77

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I told you so - You'll soon be arguing about whose interpretation is the best.
It's fantastic that KN evokes such emotions - I even wrote about it. The level of (our) commitment is amazing - rarely seen in a book or movie [anyway... maybe it was like that in the past, when novels were published in serials in newspapers (e.g. Dumas's The 3 Musketeers) and readers had to wait for the sequels]
However, we must maintain a certain level of conversation that corresponds to the quality of the story :)

To cool down emotions - SC Stories should give us some content to tear into :)
[the scene from the pub is very good, but very anonymous]
 
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Luc77

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The basis for all of us should be the written text. No one should go AGAINST that text (errors can happen to anybody of course).
We can talk about it :)
only the narrator's text is impartial (should be) - everything else is open to interpretation :) (apart from the obvious fact)
 

Gattsu#Struggler

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The basis for all of us should be the written text. No one should go AGAINST that text (errors can happen to anybody of course). But of course these words can be interpreted in order to draw conclusions regarding the inner worlds of the characters. And we all have to use "reality" as you call it, meaning our life experiences etc. in order to make those conclusions. It doesn't work any other way (so we always "mix" reality iinto it in order to makd sense of it, you do it too). But as I said, one shouldn't deliberately ignore or dismiss or falsly quote something which is in the text. But I haven't seen anybody do this here, to be honest, but I could be wrong.
And take of course the pictures: they are even more open to interpretation of course than text. How you read faces totally depends on your own experiences.
Absolute right about the written text but before someone draws conclusion one should ask questions!

I just don't know why nobody sees that during the talking code that Hutch is the only one playing a game here right now!
The dialog text hints about their current state (frustrated, cry, angry,...).
Yet people say he's testing although Vivian already confessed, was binded to talking code because Hutch claimed to know nothing about what she wanted to talk to him and she also suggested to leave town together.

Why is Hutch now playing a game and wants her to help on the little project and work for Christian instead of agreeing to move to another city with Vivian and leave all things behind them?
Why does Hutch gets angry and frustrated as soon as Vivian is against that wish from Hutch or questions his motives?
Why does he begins to lie and put himself on the same stage as the others? It doesn't represent his character!
We see Vivian's state when she talks to herself while Hutch flees in their bathroom upstairs, but we got locked out from Hutch state while he was in the bathroom! Why?
 
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