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Continuing from the previous post


Also Christian always tries to Humiliate Hutch hutch-18 -- always tring to be mean.jpg whenever he gets the chance, I think it's his main kink. But to me at-least Vivian's reaction starts to wane from extreme angry hutch-19 -- Vi -reaction 01.jpg to just words hutch-19 -- Vi -reaction 02.jpg (there's no emotion "gray word" written this time)


Also there's 2 things she is certain about Hutch but now not so sure hutch-13 -- two things sure of Hutch one may come true--01.jpg and he is not a Cuck. I think one them will come true.

The final thing I want to point out the first scene and last scene in Ch2 shows her willingness throughout the whole VN till now.
It was her who reaches for him in the car first hutch-20 -- she is trying to reach him.jpg later she admits it to Sunshine. And she kisses the dick lovingly even she told the trio that nothing will happen hutch-21 - she kisses it first.jpg


Here we get to see she actually didn't care if Hutch finds her out and when Hutch finds what he suspected all along he just sigs and left in indifference hutch-22 -- he is looking through blinds.jpg I think the opposite of love is not hate but indifference.


To those who think she was whored for the contract hutch-23 -- she tried to --.jpg she just tried to blame her shortcomings into other people like before. It was orchestrated so she finally becomes his property and in future willingly work for him as an escort.


And she is in love with Christian hutch-24 - point 01.jpg hutch-24 - point 02.jpg and her disappointment shows this hutch-25 - her love for him not the way she thought 01.jpg hutch-25 - her love for him not the way she thought 02.jpg also this scene is there for us to interpret the first backyard scene hutch-26 -- shows some shed in 1st scne.jpg in there she was also willing and accepting. The same thing happens here in the 2nd backyard scene like the 1st one.
The panty is forgotten 1. panty.jpg like the first backyard scene. Even though she remembers her husband hutch-28 -- remember.jpg she can't control her. But because this time it's not wild sex but getting love from her lover she don't want to stay there hutch-27 -- loving.jpg (also remembering your husband and feeling guilty would be such a turn off I guess)
And in the final scene asking Christian about if he is lying hutch-32 -- she thinks he loves her 01.jpg is to signify that she thinks he lied about not loving her or only seeing her as a property is a lie he told her cause she needed to hear it cause she thought he only wanted to fuck her hutch-30.jpg but after the loving sex she is sure he loves her hutch-32 -- she thinks he loves her 02.jpg



BUT with everything happened or happening she still chose to lie to HUTCH hutch-29 - she isn't going to tell truth.jpg cause to me at-least otherwise she would have said I need to tell Hutch the truth or something like that.

Also throughout these 2 chapters I felt she always got the chance to exit whereas Hutch didn't get chance to exit a single time. I mean it's like she hold the trigger, it's always her choice to pull it or not but for Hutch he always comes when he heard the gunshot. He could shout but it'll not take back the bullet into the gun. That's why he choose to step aside and let the barrel get empty I guess.
 
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you know maybe i got it all wrong and hutchy poo isnt a cuck.. if he isnt a cuck then he has to be a pimp cause he knowingly prostituting his wife out to his work to keep his job.. knowingly...
 
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I say it again I love the NTR, but this VN I just can't take it as just another game on the forum hahaha I see many saying Hutch this, hutch that, I guess they are 16 year old haystacks who only care about masturbating and that's it (without judging anyone, we all go through that) but damn when you really mature and try to see the story thoroughly you realize that poor devil that's rabbit hutch, it's just a shame, now to wait for the third chapter, I hope it's not a Christmas gift haha and that it really hutch of signs of fighting or something like that, because definitely his wife is a great fox disguised as a lamb which is justified behind a great man :FacePalm:
 

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I say it again I love the NTR, but this VN I just can't take it as just another game on the forum hahaha I see many saying Hutch this, hutch that, I guess they are 16 year old haystacks who only care about masturbating and that's it (without judging anyone, we all go through that) but damn when you really mature and try to see the story thoroughly you realize that poor devil that's rabbit hutch, it's just a shame, now to wait for the third chapter, I hope it's not a Christmas gift haha and that it really hutch of signs of fighting or something like that, because definitely his wife is a great fox disguised as a lamb which is justified behind a great man :FacePalm:
It has been stated a lot of times and by a lot of people that this story is completely on another level than the other games on here. The overall story, the backgrounds, the mindsets of the characters, the dialogues, what is said, what is not said, the facial expressions in the renders. You have to dig into all that if you want to have a chance to appreciate the story.
If all one want is a quick fap, one can go elsewhere, because here there are relatively few sex scenes, but they are all meaningful, powerfull, emotionally charged. Here the sex serves the story, the story is not here to justify the sex. And that's a big difference !
 

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I think there is something missing about Vivian from recent posts. I am not directing this at you, but your comment about her son's roommates gives me an opportunity to address Vivian's motives. She is motivated by a lot more than just sex.

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Funny That last pic When I saw it originally Even now it feels like he is not talking about hisself. If you go through the entire scene it feels like he is playing someone else. Like a role as if he is trying to tell her something. Sorry thinking too much. Alot of my thoughts about theories goes back to earlier statements about the VN will not be your typical NTR.
 

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Sorry to say this but your post's are confusing, at-least to me. It seem you're rooting for Christian-Vivian love story, that's not a problem in itself but what confuses me is your logic behind their support.
I understand you have limited use of English. My comment in no way supports their love story. I think boss will make a bad long term lover and a worse husband. I am sorry to see wife choosing him, but she is. As in real life, I cannot tell people whom to love. They simply do it without regard for my opinion.

This is sc's story that SC wants to tell. You are really criticizing an image on a computer screen, and SC's choice of what story to tell. I have tried to find a patreon account for her, but have not been able to do that. SC is providing this well done game with complex characters for free. She does not even make it possible to pay her. As is often heard in game land, if you don't appreciate a game, or its premise or anything else about it, you are getting it for free, and you simply are not required to play it. So don't play it.

I'm no Hutch-lover or Vivian-Hater. I do have some sympathy for Hutch and contempt for Vivian till this point of story but that's it as a bystander/viewer. It may change in the future.
Many Corruption, NTR specially NTS/CUCK/HOTWIFE stories uses the logic of 10-20 year of faithful marriage with hidden/suppressed sexual/emotional wife who now in the story has found a way to fulfill those urges outside marriage. The bad NTS/Hotwife stories tries to shove them saying it's their right after 20 years of faithfulness and love and she is entitled to it. I always thought reading those stories/games "HEY I've been a model citizen for some time so can I get away now with robbing a BANK"
Wife does not claim to be or have been a model anything. In fact, she struggles to understand herself, and her guilt and even her self hatred. She has not completed that struggle, and is likely to hit the wall hard when she learns boss's true nature, and looses husband as well. I think you are right, ntr games tend to be formulaic. But they do not show this very human vulnerability in wife, which could as well be shown in a male mc character. People find themselves doing things they cannot explain to themselves and actually regret, but feel they must do them anyway. It is a human drama as old as story telling. But not often seen here in porn land, where the fantasy is that everybody gets lots of sex and gets very happy doing that.

You don't like wife, you don't need to play this game. Go play some other porn more faithful to the formula. And pay for it.
 

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In my earlier posts, I wrote about what a scumbag I thought Christian was. I also wrote that I found all 3 characters unlikable for different reasons, but I made it clear that I hated Christian. Even as I am writing about Vivian, one of my main points is about how Christian is abusing her. That is why I wrote in a previous post, and a very recent one, that Vivian makes me angry for her lies, hypocrisy, and betrayals, by I pity her for how she is allowing herself to be abused. Christian abuses her because of how terrible a person he is. That is what makes her relationship and obsession with Christian so tragic. I wrote in earlier posts that Christian wants to humiliate both Hutch and Vivian because in the first chapter some people missed how Christian was humiliating Vivian. They saw how hurt Hutch was by what he saw Christian and Vivian doing, and how insulting Christian was when he talked about Hutch, but failed to see how poorly Christian was treating Vivian. I also wrote how angry I was at Hutch for being so passive, and being unwilling to confront Vivian about what happened. Of the 3, Hutch is the only 1 who did not actively harm anyone. Vivian repeatedly harmed Hutch by cheating on him, and lying to him. She is also a hypocrite for rationalizing her infidelity while at the same time saying she would be against Hutch being with someone. Christian is victimizing both Hutch and Vivian. Vivian is being victimized by Christian, but she is also victimizing Hutch. Hutch isn't victimizing anyone, but he is flawed in how he has handled the situation with Cristian and Vivian.
I don't see wife's lies, hypocrisy, and betrayals as the important part of this story. The important part is her struggle to make sense of her life, and how she is likely to fail at that. Tragedy in the ancient Greek sense.

What I see here, is you guys repeatedly dumping on wife right now. I don't know what you have said in the past, and I don't think it excuses the dumping now.
 

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The point of tragedy in drama, since Shakespeare, since Greece, since Macbeth, is not to hate the villains for their faults, but to recognize their faults in ourselves. True, that function of the theater has been forgotten in recent times. Thanks SC for reminding us.

So why should this be a function of drama? Because it allows us to see the consequences of our faults without experiencing them. Yet. We get time to consider ourselves and try to change as slow as that change might be. A lifetime usually. But there is hope.

No, you are not being lectured on morality. The trick of the best drama and literature generally is to allow us to see the fault and the consequence without the lecture. You can be sure that SC did not contrive this complex scene with well developed characters simply so boss and wife can get away with their failings. Dark times ahead.
 
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Concerning officegirl. I am replaying part 1 now, and I did see that shock of hair in bed with boss when he sent the pic to wife. Of course that could be anybody's hair from what we saw. Maybe even a trans guy. Thinking that it could be officegirl is simply too weird for me. Boss is going to be in deep shit with his brother if that is the case.

It might even be that boss meant for wife to notice the hair and realize the implication. I don't think she did though.

Oh, shit. Noticing how cheery officegirl greets wife when she comes to see boss at the office. Layers within layers.
 
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Concerning officegirl. I am replaying part 1 now, and I did see that shock of hair in bed with boss when he sent the pic to wife. Of course that could be anybody's hair from what we saw. Maybe even a trans guy. Thinking that it could be officegirl is simply too weird for me. Boss is going to be in deep shit with his brother if that is the case.

It might even be that boss meant for wife to notice the hair and realize the implication. I don't think she did though.

Oh, shit. Noticing how cheery officegirl greets wife when she comes to see boss at the office. Layers within layers.
You got that one the wrong way round. It was Vivian sending Christian a selfie, Christian didn't send a picture to Vivian. They were speaking on the phone, so there's no way that Vivian could have seen whoever it was, Addison or otherwise.
 
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You got that one the wrong way round. It was Vivian sending Christian a selfie, Christian didn't send a picture to Vivian. They were speaking on the phone, so there's no way that Vivian could have seen whoever it was, Addison or otherwise.
Ok, and neither could we.
 

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Exactly - the topic has also already been processed.
We still have the teaser in which Vi kisses Addi ;)
 

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Exactly - the topic has also already been processed.
We still have the teaser in which Vi kisses Addi ;)
I'm still erring on the side of that one being just a tease, rather than a preview, but of course, it remains to be seen. From her nightmare, it looks like Vivian might feel a little threatened by Addison, despite having no actual reason to be that we've seen. So unless it's an extreme case of "keeping your enemies closer", I can't see her voluntarily getting that close to Addison.

If it is in the game (and I'd personally like it to be), and presuming it is Addison (which is currently only a presumption, I think), how do we think it would come about?

- Would it be just a simple kiss, and no more than that, maybe to try getting a reaction out of Hutch (or Christian)?
- Would it be Vivian taking on the role played by Sunshine, in giving Hutch a special evening?
- Would it be the next stage of powerplay by Christian, forcing a threesome, or forcing some girl-girl for Vivian?
- Or, would it be Vivian wanting some more soft lips and trying out a younger model, possibly picking Addison deliberately because of her proximity to both men?

I really have no idea if any of them would make much sense, but if it happens, I'm sure dev will make it work. Because of Vivian's fears and jealousy of Addison, her one-sided stance on the open marriage, and Hutch's reactions so far, I think a Vivian-Hutch-Addison threesome is probably the least likely possibility, but it's probably my favourite possibility too.
 
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