Sparta VI

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AND is there room for one more protagonist ? ? IMO there will be only in relation to Vi. Unless SC decides to expand the story - which I doubt.
Of course there will be someone else. After all, ScS's talents should not be wasted unnecessarily. ;)
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Are you serious about patriarchy? When I look at the US House of Representatives (Congress/Senate), the numbers clearly speak against you. In European parliaments, only the Scandinavian countries perform better. But there are good reasons for this. Social institutions are well developed there. The same applies to publicly traded companies. Take, for example, the leading blue-chip companies or the science sector. Patriarchy is still deeply rooted there, too. If we apply this to the VN, it is also clearly present in Christian's company.
We shouldn't debate this here, but I don't want to leave you without answer: I would never take these numbers as the measurment for a meaningful concept of patriarchy (which is supposed to be a social system which systematically let men suppress women and dominate women by legal inequality). Your examples are the result of deliberate career-choices of women. They are there DESPITE of quotas and support programs only for women since decades. On the other hand, if you were right then whe would have to take ineauality of numbers in certain sectors of WOMEN OVER MEN (a lot of student numbers in humannities, psychology,medicine, jurisprudence etc, employment in public administration etc.) as a sign of matriarchy. Would you want to do that?
 
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Are you serious about patriarchy? When I look at the US House of Representatives (Congress/Senate), the numbers clearly speak against you. In European parliaments, only the Scandinavian countries perform better. But there are good reasons for this. Social institutions are well developed there. The same applies to publicly traded companies. Take, for example, the leading blue-chip companies or the science sector. Patriarchy is still deeply rooted there, too. If we apply this to the VN, it is also clearly present in Christian's company.
I wouldn't know. My interest in defending Wife had nothing to do with such topics. I do think that the success of women in government is not particularly significant to the overall issue. Mostly, around town, women to clerky work, men drive big machines. At least metaphorically. There are some in professional positions, doctors, veterinarians. But for most women...

C'mon guys, three cheers for Wife, hip hip... I mean tit tit..., no that isn't it. Confused now.
 

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You all have gone mad. I won't delve in politics, sociology, etc. Why most people aree giving the stick to Vivian here (pun intended) ? Some say she only fucked 2 people, big deal. The pb is not the sexual act in itself, the problem is she's married and has cheated her husband in the most horrible way possible. You can call Chrisitan a sadist, a psychopath and many other names but he doesn't owe loyalty to Hutch. She does. And we can look with some perplexity the ocean between her thoughts and words and her actions. We only saw from Vivian betrayal and hypocrisy and some touches of madness. Not a good way to start with a character. Maybe we will learn some things about Hutch but till then, ofc she's he villain of the story, in front of Christian. For those who say to try to understand Vivian, for the sake of discussion and try to predict her evolution, yeah it's interesting. But from a moral viewpoint, it's impossible to defend her. For Luc, i come from the country who invented the concept of patriarchy and many feminists in my country are strarting to drop it for the inefficiency and the many facts that cntradict de Beauvoir thesis. If you wanna get real, monogamy is the most used form of couple because from a biological view, it protects the man and the women. The male has the guarantee he spends ressources on a kid who bears his genetics and the woman won't be left off after getting pregnant taking a care of a baby who can't do shit on his own. If many men, regzrdlesss of their political orientations are disgusted by a promiscuous woman, it's because if she gets pregnant they won't be sure who the real dad is and her being overused introducts a doubt for her fertility, the fact she won't spread diseases,. I think it's harcoded in male behavior.
 

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You all have gone mad. I won't delve in politics, sociology, etc. Why most people aree giving the stick to Vivian here (pun intended) ? Some say she only fucked 2 people, big deal. The pb is not the sexual act in itself, the problem is she's married and has cheated her husband in the most horrible way possible. You can call Chrisitan a sadist, a psychopath and many other names but he doesn't owe loyalty to Hutch. She does. And we can look with some perplexity the ocean between her thoughts and words and her actions. We only saw from Vivian betrayal and hypocrisy and some touches of madness. Not a good way to start with a character. Maybe we will learn some things about Hutch but till then, ofc she's he villain of the story, in front of Christian. For those who say to try to understand Vivian, for the sake of discussion and try to predict her evolution, yeah it's interesting. But from a moral viewpoint, it's impossible to defend her. For Luc, i come from the country who invented the concept of patriarchy and many feminists in my country are strarting to drop it for the inefficiency and the many facts that cntradict de Beauvoir thesis. If you wanna get real, monogamy is the most used form of couple because from a biological view, it protects the man and the women. The male has the guarantee he spends ressources on a kid who bears his genetics and the woman won't be left off after getting pregnant taking a care of a baby who can't do shit on his own. If many men, regzrdlesss of their political orientations are disgusted by a promiscuous woman, it's because if she gets pregnant they won't be sure who the real dad is and her being overused introducts a doubt for her fertility, the fact she won't spread diseases,. I think it's harcoded in male behavior.
Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds.

Right, hard coded for sure, has been that way since forever. Do we care? If there is one thing that feminism might have changed it is the choice of a woman to not get pregnant if she doen't want to. At least as long as birth control stays legal in the US. I had an aunt who somewhere in the 40's got pregnant and the father vanished. Worried parents looked around for a possible husband for her. My uncle finally said, darn right (he was a rough speaking kind of guy, he probably didn't say darn), I'll marry her. They had a long and successful marriage 5 or 6 kids I seem to remember. Things like that do not need to happen any more. Not that such stories cannot have happy endings.

As if the worry is that woman will spread std. As if men don't do the same. It is the stallion slut pattern all over again. Not that people are likely to change, but they can think about it...a little...if they want to.
 
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A whore doesn't have to fuck just for money directly, a whore can fuck for food if he or she is desperate enough, like in wartime Berlin. More likely these days, a whore can fuck for drugs. "Meth whore" might be a good example? It's any kind of compensation for exchange of goods or services for sex. In this game, Vivian is a whore because she fucked Christian for the compensation of keeping her husband's job and income. Instead of fucking someone for a job that she doesn't yet have, she's fucking to keep her husband's job, his income. It's analogous to a situation where there is a round of layoffs, to fuck the boss to decide in your favor to make the cut off.
 
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A whore doesn't have to fuck just for money directly, a whore can fuck for food if he or she is desperate enough, like in wartime Berlin. More likely these days, a whore can fuck for drugs. "Meth whore" might be a good example? It's any kind of compensation for exchange of goods or services for sex. In this game, Vivian is a whore because she fucked Christian for the compensation of keeping her husband's job and income. Instead of fucking someone for a job that she doesn't yet have, she's fucking to keep her husband's job, his income. It's analogous to a situation where there is a round of layoffs, to fuck the boss to decide in your favor to make the cut off.
A whore shows up for work every day and works all day for a paycheck.
 
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A whore doesn't have to fuck just for money directly, a whore can fuck for food if he or she is desperate enough, like in wartime Berlin. More likely these days, a whore can fuck for drugs. "Meth whore" might be a good example? It's any kind of compensation for exchange of goods or services for sex. In this game, Vivian is a whore because she fucked Christian for the compensation of keeping her husband's job and income. Instead of fucking someone for a job that she doesn't yet have, she's fucking to keep her husband's job, his income. It's analogous to a situation where there is a round of layoffs, to fuck the boss to decide in your favor to make the cut off.
Isn't that the sweetest thing? We now have a definition of whore that fits Wife. So we can now call her a whore. It feels so good.

And since we can do that, every thing else that goes with being a whore now applies to Wife, and it is ok to hate her, hate her, hate her. We can accuse her of spreading std, we can accuse her of becoming a whore simply because she loves sex. She always has been a whore, always will be a whore, is a whore. And will always do what whores do.

At least so I have heard right here.
 
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Sparta158:
Actually, in the case of that specific argument, taken on a general, not pesonal level, I don't think at all it's okay that we disagree on such a fundamental level of perception - because this is why our societies go down the drain. I think it's depressing.
 

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Fucking conversation has gone right off the rails here. Why we are on New Wave Feminism is absolutely beyond me and has fuck all to do with the game - The meaning you are finding in the game was not even there to be found.
That's why I stopped posting here. Instead of the discussion about the game with adult people, little boys found the thread and are crying about fictional woman. This is what happens when minors don't watch cartoons like normal kids but play porn games omg.
 
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