VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [Ch.2] [SC Stories]

[Dealbreaker]

But you do confront those who seem eager to think badly of her a lot less often than me who would like to not think badly of her.

I'd say I might deserve more credit for being tentative about my wonderings. In no case do I claim to have facts, unlike some who are eager to think badly of Wife.

Considering that, headmaster Tony might abstain from punishing you too hard then, Noah. It would be too unfair, wouldn't it? Look instead at that awful lot who is eager to think badly of Wife.

 

[GibboBtw]

I hadn't seen much of the messaging, but when I had a look... it annoys me people making points using information that is just factually inaccurate. Everyone makes mistakes because they miss something in the game, or they forget something, or it's not a mistake but something that people can interpret differently, so is not set in stone, but the guy up there is like Trump - he keeps saying things that are just not true, and no one calls him out on it, so I thought I'd correct him that one time.

I think it's just like you said earlier. That it might be because most people who browse this thread have realised by now, that trying to engage or convince either of them, about anything. Is a giant waste of time and your own sanity. So just ignoring them or having them muted is the way to go.

 

[IHATESlowburnBluBallgames]

Christ on a bike it has. I mean, with my ignore list, I'm sometimes only getting 5 posts per page, but I just took a look and it's really some nonsense that's (still) being spouted...

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Don't worry, you two below, I'll check back for any responses maybe later, but the thread is still far healthier not seeing your posts, so I'll still keep you blissfully hidden. However, sometimes a response is needed so people don't just take what you say as accurate when it's really not (I'm looking at you, Stanford).


Dude, you are apparently fixated on this picture recently and saying that Vivian is a prostitute looking into a car like she's trying to get picked up by a John. Do you mean this picture below? It's the only one I can think of that fits your description, but other than the whole "why on Earth would she be doing that in the first place?" part, just take a look at what else you can see in the image. She is outside her own home. Would she really be soliciting in broad daylight from her own doorstep, and while her husband appears to be home (bearing in mind he could be elsewhere without his car)? I'd say this is clearly someone she knows or an Uber picking her up or dropping her off, and she's looking into the car to thank the driver or say hello. If you're wearing a dress with a slightly low-cut neckline and you lean forward like that, you're going to show cleavage. The combination of cleavage and car does not in the slightest suggest prostitute.
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You make a lot of points here with very little accuracy.

No, we don't know that, because part of it is incorrect and the other part of it is speculation. She never said that the Frenchman bought the bottle (or the meal) for her. She said "It was expensive... way too expensive for a travelling college student." She then said that the waiter brought out the bottle (so she obviously bought it anyway) and the older man showed her how to open it and helped her savour it. Students, as a massive generalisation, don't tend to have plenty of cash on hand, so I presume this is a case of "I shouldn't have bought it, but I did," and there's no indication that she literally couldn't afford to buy it - she wouldn't have ordered it if she couldn't afford it, surely.

I did see someone (maybe you again) using the word "poor" to refer to Vivian while she was in France, too. Again, that is only speculation based on her being a student who shouldn't be spending her money on expensive bottles of wine. She says "I went to this little café alone. My French was poor at the time, so I struggled with the menu." So she didn't speak great French, not anything to do with her material wealth.

No she didn't. Perhaps you're confusing naïve with naughty? If this is what you're referring to, she says "Looking back, I know I was just another naïve American girl who fell for his shtick..." I can't find anywhere else you might be referring to, with "naughty" not being mentioned at all and "American" not being mentioned anywhere else.

I didn't say that either, so I'm not sure if there's a reason you're suggesting someone might have said it? The bit about the tattoos is another bit of speculation though. We know that she had the neck tattoo done when she was a student, but we don't know precise timing, or exactly when the lower-back tattoo was done. There is certainly nothing to suggest that she "definitely" had the tattoos by the time she did her semester in France.

So again, she didn't accept expensive wine and dinner from a stranger, she accepted his help in opening and enjoying the wine that she bought, and she fell for his seduction and spent a memorable evening with him. There's is absolutely nothing to suggest that she was stripping (so at least you got that bit right), or prostituting herself, or doing drugs. There is literally nothing to suggest that she was ever using sex to get advantages.

There's also nothing to say that her spending a semester in France was her parents' decision, or that whoever made the decision did it to get her away from something. She could quite easily have made the decision herself, and I have no idea why you seem to think that wherever she was, younger Vivian was paying for the clothes she wore, or the drugs there is no indication she took, with sex. As with so much of this, we will likely never know though, because it is not relevant to the ongoing story.

Literally all we know of her younger sex life outside of this one-night stand in France is that she could fit an entire penis (size undetermined) in her mouth. Her mother said that she should "have fun while [she] was single, but said men won't marry wild women" but that doesn't mean "go and get gangbanged and take as much cock as possible before you restrict yourself to just one". It's exactly as it sounds, "have fun" - don't be too serious and just dive into a relationship with the first guy you meet. None of that (even when combined with anything else we know about Vivian) suggests that Vivian was "a naughty girl", unless you're just saying that any female college student who has sex or has given a blowjob is naughty...

For someone who keeps telling people to "read the words" or "play the game again" or whatever, and showing off all their screenshots for the umpteenth time as if you're the only person who's seen the game's opening, it would be really nice if you could do the same thing and at least give the right information when you're preaching.

Oh, and also, no, these are not standalone chapters that can be played in any order. I mean, sure, you can play Chapter 2 before Chapter 1 if you really want to, but it's a continuous story from Ch1 to Ch2. Playing them Ch2 and then Ch1 is literally doing it in the wrong order. Perhaps that's contributing to you consistently getting a lot of what happened wrong.

 

[noahsombrero]

Considering that, headmaster Tony might abstain from punishing you too hard then, Noah. It would be too unfair, wouldn't it? Look instead at that awful lot who is eager to think badly of Wife.

I hate to see you feeling badly there DB. Have you been claiming facts when none were available?

 

[noahsombrero]

I think it's just like you said earlier. That it might be because most people who browse this thread have realised by now, that trying to engage or convince either of them, about anything. Is a giant waste of time and your own sanity. So just ignoring them or having them muted is the way to go.

It is interesting that Gibbo thinks he might possibly be willing to be convinced of anything.

 

[packard1928]

You could, for instance give me credit for suggesting to Packard that Wife was an anal virgin before Rain.


I'd say I might deserve more credit for being tentative about my wonderings. In no case do I claim to have facts, unlike some who are eager to think badly of Wife.

I Will... you were correct ! Maybe I'll start a team Vivian... That will start something for sure !

 

[88stanford88]

DEV said half of us would like the ending and half maybe not. We already see clear divides on how people look at the Characters.

Also the dev knows that...

Yes, I think some people will jump off the train as the story progresses and the character arcs become set

and

Yes, I think the ending will divide the remaining viewers.

Christ on a bike it has. I mean, with my ignore list, I'm sometimes only getting 5 posts per page, but I just took a look and it's really some nonsense that's (still) being spouted...

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Don't worry, you two below, I'll check back for any responses maybe later, but the thread is still far healthier not seeing your posts, so I'll still keep you blissfully hidden. However, sometimes a response is needed so people don't just take what you say as accurate when it's really not (I'm looking at you, Stanford).


Dude, you are apparently fixated on this picture recently and saying that Vivian is a prostitute looking into a car like she's trying to get picked up by a John. Do you mean this picture below? It's the only one I can think of that fits your description, but other than the whole "why on Earth would she be doing that in the first place?" part, just take a look at what else you can see in the image. She is outside her own home. Would she really be soliciting in broad daylight from her own doorstep, and while her husband appears to be home (bearing in mind he could be elsewhere without his car)? I'd say this is clearly someone she knows or an Uber picking her up or dropping her off, and she's looking into the car to thank the driver or say hello. If you're wearing a dress with a slightly low-cut neckline and you lean forward like that, you're going to show cleavage. The combination of cleavage and car does not in the slightest suggest prostitute.
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You make a lot of points here with very little accuracy.

No, we don't know that, because part of it is incorrect and the other part of it is speculation. She never said that the Frenchman bought the bottle (or the meal) for her. She said "It was expensive... way too expensive for a travelling college student." She then said that the waiter brought out the bottle (so she obviously bought it anyway) and the older man showed her how to open it and helped her savour it. Students, as a massive generalisation, don't tend to have plenty of cash on hand, so I presume this is a case of "I shouldn't have bought it, but I did," and there's no indication that she literally couldn't afford to buy it - she wouldn't have ordered it if she couldn't afford it, surely.

I did see someone (maybe you again) using the word "poor" to refer to Vivian while she was in France, too. Again, that is only speculation based on her being a student who shouldn't be spending her money on expensive bottles of wine. She says "I went to this little café alone. My French was poor at the time, so I struggled with the menu." So she didn't speak great French, not anything to do with her material wealth.

No she didn't. Perhaps you're confusing naïve with naughty? If this is what you're referring to, she says "Looking back, I know I was just another naïve American girl who fell for his shtick..." I can't find anywhere else you might be referring to, with "naughty" not being mentioned at all and "American" not being mentioned anywhere else.

I didn't say that either, so I'm not sure if there's a reason you're suggesting someone might have said it? The bit about the tattoos is another bit of speculation though. We know that she had the neck tattoo done when she was a student, but we don't know precise timing, or exactly when the lower-back tattoo was done. There is certainly nothing to suggest that she "definitely" had the tattoos by the time she did her semester in France.

So again, she didn't accept expensive wine and dinner from a stranger, she accepted his help in opening and enjoying the wine that she bought, and she fell for his seduction and spent a memorable evening with him. There's is absolutely nothing to suggest that she was stripping (so at least you got that bit right), or prostituting herself, or doing drugs. There is literally nothing to suggest that she was ever using sex to get advantages.

There's also nothing to say that her spending a semester in France was her parents' decision, or that whoever made the decision did it to get her away from something. She could quite easily have made the decision herself, and I have no idea why you seem to think that wherever she was, younger Vivian was paying for the clothes she wore, or the drugs there is no indication she took, with sex. As with so much of this, we will likely never know though, because it is not relevant to the ongoing story.

Literally all we know of her younger sex life outside of this one-night stand in France is that she could fit an entire penis (size undetermined) in her mouth. Her mother said that she should "have fun while [she] was single, but said men won't marry wild women" but that doesn't mean "go and get gangbanged and take as much cock as possible before you restrict yourself to just one". It's exactly as it sounds, "have fun" - don't be too serious and just dive into a relationship with the first guy you meet. None of that (even when combined with anything else we know about Vivian) suggests that Vivian was "a naughty girl", unless you're just saying that any female college student who has sex or has given a blowjob is naughty...

For someone who keeps telling people to "read the words" or "play the game again" or whatever, and showing off all their screenshots for the umpteenth time as if you're the only person who's seen the game's opening, it would be really nice if you could do the same thing and at least give the right information when you're preaching.

Oh, and also, no, these are not standalone chapters that can be played in any order. I mean, sure, you can play Chapter 2 before Chapter 1 if you really want to, but it's a continuous story from Ch1 to Ch2. Playing them Ch2 and then Ch1 is literally doing it in the wrong order. Perhaps that's contributing to you consistently getting a lot of what happened wrong.

So you're saying that mine are just INACCURATE speculations
....and yours are certainties?
What are you basing your certainties on?
This is interesting

DUDE about Naive is true, it might not be translated as "naughty girl," but it seems to me that a girl who is not naive (because that's the point of Viv's argument),
Vivian said to Chris that the adult man in France thought she was the usual naive American girl

I think you need some pill for your brain

THIS CONFIRMS THAT SHE WAS NOT NAIVE
And what do you think is the contrary synonym of naive? ... if you think well she said that she was not naive so... she was a naughty girl

and look at the Vivian expression that wine bottle male her happy and nostalgic at the same time for that memory...

I don't see why she would have to hide the story (or stories) she had in France from her husband...
I also said that Hutch certainly married her saying he didn't want

I'm simply basing my opinion on logic.

I don't have much time now because I have to take my wife to a party with her friends, where I've also been invited.
But I'll read your post more carefully, where you say that my assumptions aren't very accurate. And we'll see if your certainties are as accurate as my inaccurate assumptions.

See you soon, my friend.

PS; I really enjoy reviewing my assumptions and comparing them with your certainties...

but... why do you seem so interested in dismantling my logical deductions about the scenes in this masterpiece of a story?
Perhaps you are afraid that I am more close than you to the truth about this drama between "Vivian Husband's Boss"?

 

[noahsombrero]

It is interesting that Tony says he gets 5 messages a day because of all the people he has blocked. So who does that leave? Packard, anybody new, a couple of others. Come on Tony, are your ears so sensitive? If I can read it all, I don't see why you can't.

Maybe you were thinking that if you blocked people they would go away. Let me cure you of that fantasy.

 

[_YD__]

It is interesting that Tony says he gets 5 messages a day because of all the people he has blocked.

correction! 2 people and it makes a big difference.

 

[noahsombrero]

correction! 2 people and it makes a big difference.

Sorry, but Stanford and I do not make up all the traffic here but 5 a day. Here is what she said:

"Christ on a bike it has. I mean, with my ignore list, I'm sometimes only getting 5 posts per page"

She really didn't say how many, but the phrasing suggests a good deal more than two.

Anyway, welcome to reading my shit again.

 

[TonyMurray]

So you're saying that mine are just INACCURATE speculations
....and yours are certainties?
What are you basing your certainties on?
This is interesting

No, I'm saying that the things you are stating as facts are often inaccurate, as I backed up by providing what was actually said in the game, as opposed to what you say was said. I then note that many of your speculations are baseless - or thinking about it, some are based on those same inaccuracies, and so they are even more likely to be, in turn, inaccurate.

DUDE about Naive is true, it might not be translated as "naughty girl," but it seems to me that a girl who is not naive (because that's the point of Viv's argument),
Vivian said to Chris that the adult man in France thought she was the usual naive American girl

I think you need some pill for your brain

THIS CONFIRMS THAT SHE WAS NOT NAIVE
And what do you think is the contrary synonym of naive? ... if you think well she said that she was not naive so... she was a naughty girl

No, you're wrong again. I even gave you the exact quote from the game in my original post. Vivian says "I know I was just another naïve American girl", not that the French man thought she was one. How you can take someone saying "I was naïve" and deduce that she actually means "I was naughty" is beyond me.

I'm simply basing my opinion on logic.

why do you seem so interested in dismantling my logical deductions about the scenes in this masterpiece of a story?
Perhaps you are afraid that I am more close than you to the truth about this drama between "Vivian Husband's Boss"?

Where is the logic in taking the absence of information to form an opinion based on that same, non-existant, information? Just in the post I quoted, you took a small piece of information from the game (Vivian spent some time as a student in France and a bottle of wine she bought there was said to be too expensive for a travelling student) and added a bunch of stuff from thin air (she was sent to France by her parents to get her away from selling her body for clothes, drugs, or better grades, and then continued selling her body for clothes and drugs while in France), and you call it a "logical assumption"? That is what I was referring to as a piece of baseless speculation.

It is interesting that Tony says he gets 5 messages a day because of all the people he has blocked. So who does that leave? Packard, anybody new, a couple of others. Come on Tony, are your ears so sensitive? If I can read it all, I don't see why you can't.

Maybe you were thinking that if you blocked people they would go away. Let me cure you of that fantasy.

correction! 2 people and it makes a big difference.

I have three people who post in this thread (to my knowledge) on ignore, and once or twice recently, it has led to a page consisting of only about five posts, because two, or all, of those three have been arguing back and forth in off-topic tirades.

 

[88stanford88]

She is nostalgically remembering France, but as we know, when we remember the past, we tend to omit the unpleasant things and focus on the positive feelings.

And indeed, when Chris brings her back to reality...

My inaccurate assumption is based on the fact that after her nostalgic memory, she looks at her dress and feels like a prostitute....
And she certainly tells Chrsi details of a past she has never shared with her husband.
That's why I remain convinced that Vivian's past hides much more than a penniless student looking at the windows of prestigious wines and remembering the smell of the room where she had sex with a man who taught her how to smell red wine before drinking it...
To me, it seems much more than a waiter who bought her the bottle.

Just my 2 cents

 

[_YD__]

I have three people who post in this thread (to my knowledge) on ignore, and once or twice recently, it has led to a page consisting of only about five posts, because two, or all, of those three have been arguing back and forth in off-topic tirades.

I guess I'm nr 3 then and you are right at some point I did.

 

[noahsombrero]

I have three people who post in this thread (to my knowledge) on ignore, and once or twice recently, it has led to a page consisting of only about five posts, because two, or all, of those three have been arguing back and forth in off-topic tirades.

And so it is that you have perhaps failed to notice that I have very little to say to Stanford these days.

My impression was that you didn't want to read me because I tend to repeat things and say things that you would contest. It gives you peace if you can avoid the temptation. That is what it sounded like back in the day. Carry on.

Has this discussion become an off topic tirade, Tony?

 

[TonyMurray]

I guess I'm nr 3 then and you are right at some point I did.

No, the third is the ChatGPT "femboy soyboy" shitposter.

Sorry, but Stanford and I do not make up all the traffic here but 5 a day. Here is what she said:

"Christ on a bike it has. I mean, with my ignore list, I'm sometimes only getting 5 posts per page"

She really didn't say how many, but the phrasing suggests a good deal more than two.

Anyway, welcome to reading my shit again.

Sorry, missed this one earlier when checking the responses, but just to confirm, I'm definitely a "he", not a "she". And yes, it genuinely has been like that once or twice recently with just three ignores (I think I only have two others, but I don't think they post in here). Enthusiastic posting is fine, but off-topic responding to off-topic and competing to see who is the most (or least) off-topic is just far too much. But speaking of off-topic responses, this is definitely one, so I'll not delve any deeper into it.

 

[Ed Hardy_32]

She is nostalgically remembering France, but as we know, when we remember the past, we tend to omit the unpleasant things and focus on the positive feelings.
And indeed, when Chris brings her back to reality...
My inaccurate assumption is based on the fact that after her nostalgic memory, she looks at her dress and feels like a prostitute....
And she certainly tells Chrsi details of a past she has never shared with her husband.
That's why I remain convinced that Vivian's past hides much more than a penniless student looking at the windows of prestigious wines and remembering the smell of the room where she had sex with a man who taught her how to smell red wine before drinking it...
To me, it seems much more than a waiter who bought her the bottle.

Just my 2 cents

I think you’re misinterpreting that line. Vivian doesn’t say she feels like a prostitute – she says „All these people must think I’m a prostitute.“ That’s not a confession of her own feelings, it’s her assumption about how others might be perceiving her.

It’s a subtle but crucial distinction: self-perception vs. imagined external judgment. She’s not labeling herself – she’s reflecting on what others might assume based on appearances.

So turning that into „she looked at her dress and felt like a prostitute“ is simply inaccurate. It shifts the meaning from external perception to internal reality, and that’s not what the line says.

Honestly, sometimes it seems like you’re trying so hard to uncover hidden „truths“ that you end up creating your own parallel script.

 

[88stanford88]

No, I'm saying that the things you are stating as facts are often inaccurate, as I backed up by providing what was actually said in the game, as opposed to what you say was said. I then note that many of your speculations are baseless - or thinking about it, some are based on those same inaccuracies, and so they are even more likely to be, in turn, inaccurate.

I never said mine are certain facts.
I'm trying to reconstruct Vivian's possible past before she married Hutch.

No, you're wrong again. I even gave you the exact quote from the game in my original post. Vivian says "I know I was just another naïve American girl", not that the French man thought she was one. How you can take someone saying "I was naïve" and deduce that she actually means "I was naughty" is beyond me.

so you take as a certain fact the nostalgic memory of 25 years ago of a woman who is now 45 years old that she never told her husband--and then when she comes to her senses she feels she is dressed like a prostitute not to connect the two
I connect HER memories with the fact that she said that was dressed like a prostitute IN THE SAME SCENE!!! Just a moment after her nostalgic memories

ALL DETAILS ARE VERY IMPORTANT

Where is the logic in taking the absence of information to form an opinion based on that same, non-existant, information? Just in the post I quoted, you took a small piece of information from the game

The logic lies in the fact that I want to write my speculations about Vivian's past because I think this is the most important key clue to understanding the story of this beautiful milf who loses begins to have multiple orgasms every time a man dominates her by forcing him to have rough sex and that she seems to enjoy this more and more

yes small information from the game but very interesting clue from the author

I believe with each release you will say to yourself "Damn! I didn't see that coming" but also see that it fits the story. And that includes the ending.

The author has stated that he will only give us small pieces of information, but future scenes will apparently be unexpected. However, upon rereading past scenes, they will suddenly make sense, and we will say, “Damn, I didn't see that coming.”

I'm just trying to reconstruct scenes that "Damn! I didn't see that coming" using hypotheses based on a reinterpretation of the details in the scenes already published using logic

(Vivian spent some time as a student in France and a bottle of wine she bought there was said to be too expensive for a travelling student) and added a bunch of stuff from thin air (she was sent to France by her parents to get her away from selling her body for clothes, drugs, or better grades, and then continued selling her body for clothes and drugs while in France), and you call it a "logical assumption"? That is what I was referring to as a piece of baseless speculation.

Exactly I add made-up things that can make sense to connect Vivian's past.... and listen a semester is no small amount of time"
and I already told you why families send their female daughter to semesters away from the places where they became very popular...
Listen, what Vivian remembering 25 Years Before is just a memory embellished by nostalgia...but yes it's all stuff I'm making up to make sense of future scenes in which the author says

"Damn! I didn't see that coming" but also see that it fits the story. And that includes the ending.

At this point what is your problem with my interpretation of the story?

We will see...

 

[tarzan999]

I am surprised by the popularity of this game. The MC looks kinda mid even if you look past the fact that she is supposed to be old.

 

[noahsombrero]

I am surprised by the popularity of this game.

You don't think it deserves that?

The MC looks kinda mid even if you look past the fact that she is supposed to be old.

Most of the pics people put in their accounts are not of themselves, or not recently. She is old. Glad to hear it. Perhaps she has a perception of the world that I can share, more of that than I get from most porn games at least.

 

[tarzan999]

You don't think it deserves that?


Most of the pics people put in their accounts are not of themselves, or not recently. She is old. Glad to hear it. Perhaps she has a perception of the world that I can share, more of that than I get from most porn games at least.

Just weird that she really doesn't look all that conventionally attractive. Maybe it's just the haircut that's bugging me.