VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [Ch.2] [SC Stories]

[NewGuy2022]

I am generally of the same mind as MIGames there - although I think the Sunshine and Rain scene was important for Vivian for a number of reasons (as well as being a good overall scene or couple of scenes), I still see it being best as a love (or sex) triangle between Vivian, Hutch, and Christian. More partners for Vivian would dilute the story for me. It'll still be enjoyable, I'm sure, and still hot undoubtedly, but I don't think it would feel the same.

The intensity of this one for me was the story of an affair, not the story of a woman catching up on the numbers she missed through being a loyal wife for over twenty years.

Okay; I see your point but I guess that once again I am failing to communicate effectively. If only in my mind, Vivian is a whore. And whores aren't terribly selective about sex partners (that's why they're whores).

For me, at least, the Sunshine/Rain scene was the Rubicon for Vivian. Up to that point, she could lie to herself that she was a good wife who only was doing what she had to for her husband (only with Christian and only for her husband's job; not at all because she is a whore). It's a crock of shite, but it gave her some illusion to hold on to.

When she pulled the threesome, she made it clear that she's just a sex hound who will hook up with anyone she can. After that I don't see why there's any limit for her on sex partners or what she does with them.

I find it ironic that people who enjoy watching her cheat on her husband might be bothered if she isn't faithful enough with the people she's cheating with (she's a whore!). I would expect that anyone who is a fan of cheating would be cheering for even more cheating.

I'm not criticizing, condemning, or anything else; I just really don't see why someone who cheated with this many people shouldn't add some more notches to her garter belt. Sunshine/Rain were not part of the "affair"; neither was the client in the hotel. She's just screwing anyone now. The only thing keeping me scratching my head is why (except for Porn Logic) that anyone is bothering to hide it; she knows that Hutch knows and he's too spineless of a cuck to ever do anything about it... ...I mean he still tries to date the unfaithful tramp and sleeps in the same bed with her. By this he's approving of what she's doing to him. Whether he admits it or not, he must be okay with it all. I guess his son won't mind when Mom pulls a threesome with his roommates and he watches.

I guess I truly don't understand the genre at all and need to give up trying.

...makes it a sort of public negotiation about the moral character of Vivian...

I would offer at this point in the story that her moral character is not in question. But maybe that's just my viewpoint.

 

[noahsombrero]

I guess I truly don't understand the genre at all and need to give up trying.

That is the problem. You do understand the genre. But this game steps outside that. Otherwise, any other porn game you can name would have shown the all night Wife/Boss sex at the end of chpt 1. Every juicy bit.

This game is not about the juice. How confusing.

Take your hand off your dick and skip the juice. What do you see?

 

[NewGuy2022]

Here is a thought. Hutch has opened his marriage . He knows she is having sex with Christian. She did it because he said it is OK. Or she felt a bit of power from it. Christian has openly sent Vivian to fucked by the client. After she said it gave her a sense of power. He Christian said he owns her. She in turn says she agrees... She is his. Either she is a very good Actress or Spy for Hutch or,,, She is soon to be sent out by Christian to other client evenings. I'll bet she would even go to a MMF party for him.

Sorry but I don't agree that Hutch opened his marriage. Vivian cheats constantly, Hutch knows, and he's too weak-willed to do anything about it. I agree that in the end the result is what you describe (Vivian does whatever Vivian wants and Hutch does not dare to say or do anything about it) but I don't see the current relationship (I won't call it a marriage anymore) as something Hutch created. As far as what she would do, I can see her doing practically anything at this point; she would justify it to herself as doing this for someone else but she just enjoys sex with people who are not Hutch.

That is the problem. You do understand the genre. But this game steps outside that. Otherwise, any other porn game you can name would have shown the all night Wife/Boss sex at the end of chpt 1. Every juicy bit.

This game is not about the juice. How confusing.

Take your hand off your dick and skip the juice. What do you see?

Not sure what you mean by that. I read that NTR is supposed to be about the reader experiencing (or at least understanding) the pain, anger, jealousy, and helplessness felt by the cuck; if that's true, then I think the developer hit the mark with the way he wrote his story. Showing the actual sex scene vs. showing what Hutch saw would have made that less effective in my opinion. Hearing the wild sex and picturing it in your mind probably would be more painful than watching it. Not saying you're wrong but that's how I saw it...

 

[noahsombrero]

I sometimes feel bad for Hutch, but his weakness constantly infuriates me,

He is not like you. Would not do what you would do. Take a look around and notice how the world is full of people who are not like you, would do things that you would not do and vice versa.

and makes me want to slap some sense into him. He makes it VERY DIFFICULT to feel bad for him.

Maybe he doesn't neet you to feel bad for him. It took him a while, perhaps he tends to think before acting, but now in chpt 3, he will probably finally decide that she really, finally is on her way out of his life one way or the other, and he very seriously needs to move on.

Or, alternative provided by some pics SC gave us a while back for chapt 3:
1) Boss's hand strongly grips wife's jaw as she looks at him in full fury.
2) It looks like, in one of the pics, Wife and Husband are having sex on that ratty old sofa in their apartment.

So I conjecture, Boss breaks up with Wife and she reconciles with Husband. The end of chapt 3 is supposed to be another cliff hanger, so I conjecture again the Boss tries to take Wife back. The cliff hanger is whether she will fall for that again. lf she does it is a serious fall from a ten story building for her. And, in that case, Husband's move on would be in chpt 4.

 

[noahsombrero]

ot sure what you mean by that. I read that NTR is supposed to be about the reader experiencing (or at least understanding) the pain, anger, jealousy, and helplessness felt by the cuck;

Certainly, but any other old porn game wouild not pass up the chance to show you some juicy bits. All night sex. Pretty juicy. Apparently, it often happens that the cucked hubby decides he likes to watch his wife get fucked, so often it is a porn cliché.

It would still be very possible to see pain, anger, etc. In my experience, most of the time the dev finds a way to sidestep all that messiness. It gets in the way of the juice. The voyeuring hubby is one way to do that. Another way is to evolve the story into harem porn.

 

[Oriandu]

Okay; I see your point but I guess that once again I am failing to communicate effectively. If only in my mind, Vivian is a whore. And whores aren't terribly selective about sex partners (that's why they're whores).

For me, at least, the Sunshine/Rain scene was the Rubicon for Vivian. Up to that point, she could lie to herself that she was a good wife who only was doing what she had to for her husband (only with Christian and only for her husband's job; not at all because she is a whore). It's a crock of shite, but it gave her some illusion to hold on to.

When she pulled the threesome, she made it clear that she's just a sex hound who will hook up with anyone she can. After that I don't see why there's any limit for her on sex partners or what she does with them.

I find it ironic that people who enjoy watching her cheat on her husband might be bothered if she isn't faithful enough with the people she's cheating with (she's a whore!). I would expect that anyone who is a fan of cheating would be cheering for even more cheating.

I'm not criticizing, condemning, or anything else; I just really don't see why someone who cheated with this many people shouldn't add some more notches to her garter belt. Sunshine/Rain were not part of the "affair"; neither was the client in the hotel. She's just screwing anyone now. The only thing keeping me scratching my head is why (except for Porn Logic) that anyone is bothering to hide it; she knows that Hutch knows and he's too spineless of a cuck to ever do anything about it... ...I mean he still tries to date the unfaithful tramp and sleeps in the same bed with her. By this he's approving of what she's doing to him. Whether he admits it or not, he must be okay with it all. I guess his son won't mind when Mom pulls a threesome with his roommates and he watches.

I guess I truly don't understand the genre at all and need to give up trying.



I would offer at this point in the story that her moral character is not in question. But maybe that's just my viewpoint.

I don't think you know what a whore is.

 

[noahsombrero]

I don't think you know what a whore is.

Unfaithful spouses are not whores/gigolos no matter how much you profoundly don't like them. Philanderers, promiscuous females are also not whores/gigolos.

Note that philanderer and promiscuous female are in fact moral equivalents, but we still can admire the philanderer and condemn the promiscuous female. It is part of the NA culture, which does not mean that we are thinking rationally when we think those things.

We should consider that this is an international forum. And different cultures have very different standards for these issues. Islamic and to a certain degree Spanish cultures can treat even a single instance of sex outside of marriage as a very serious offense for a woman. Meanwhile Danish and Scandinavian cultures generally are much freer sexually.

 

[doubletime]

a whore is a promiscuous easy/sleazy woman. A woman is either a whore or not a whore. Strippers, porn actresses, OF whores, escorts, cheating wives and cheating gfs are all whores. Faithful non promiscuous = not a whore. Simple

Also, whores are not bad people they just like to fuck and that's totally fine, imo. I prefer whores irl ( 're predictable)

 

[Adhdclassic]

Noticed in my old age words have become open to personal interpretation or usage. The word whore when I was growing up was pointed at prostitutes and pornstars due to profit. The word slut was for promiscuous women cheating women. Now these words are just given to all open clams.

 

[NewGuy2022]

Noticed in my old age words have become open to personal interpretation or usage. The word whore when I was growing up was pointed at prostitutes and pornstars due to profit. The word slut was for promiscuous women cheating women. Now these words are just given to all open clams.

Where I live, a slut is a promiscuous woman (single and no commitments). Not necessarily an insult; she just enjoys sex.
A whore is a promiscuous woman who betrays a commitment (marriage, exclusive relationship, etc.) without consent.
The betrayal is the difference. Here "slut" isn't necessarily an insult but "whore" definitely is.

 

[brianbecker]

i thing you should use the scene

 

[MIGames]

Okay; I see your point but I guess that once again I am failing to communicate effectively. If only in my mind, Vivian is a whore. And whores aren't terribly selective about sex partners (that's why they're whores).

For me, at least, the Sunshine/Rain scene was the Rubicon for Vivian. Up to that point, she could lie to herself that she was a good wife who only was doing what she had to for her husband (only with Christian and only for her husband's job; not at all because she is a whore). It's a crock of shite, but it gave her some illusion to hold on to.

When she pulled the threesome, she made it clear that she's just a sex hound who will hook up with anyone she can. After that I don't see why there's any limit for her on sex partners or what she does with them.

I find it ironic that people who enjoy watching her cheat on her husband might be bothered if she isn't faithful enough with the people she's cheating with (she's a whore!). I would expect that anyone who is a fan of cheating would be cheering for even more cheating.

I'm not criticizing, condemning, or anything else; I just really don't see why someone who cheated with this many people shouldn't add some more notches to her garter belt. Sunshine/Rain were not part of the "affair"; neither was the client in the hotel. She's just screwing anyone now. The only thing keeping me scratching my head is why (except for Porn Logic) that anyone is bothering to hide it; she knows that Hutch knows and he's too spineless of a cuck to ever do anything about it... ...I mean he still tries to date the unfaithful tramp and sleeps in the same bed with her. By this he's approving of what she's doing to him. Whether he admits it or not, he must be okay with it all. I guess his son won't mind when Mom pulls a threesome with his roommates and he watches.

I guess I truly don't understand the genre at all and need to give up trying.



I would offer at this point in the story that her moral character is not in question. But maybe that's just my viewpoint.

I get your point, its just that my take on this is that the psycological treat around her reluctance, her moral doubts about whom she has become, or as you put it, assumed, more so after that rubicon crossing, makes her more appealing. Her inner dilemas, althought, as you have clearly showed, very hypocrite, are a trait in itself and bring to the cheating process, to all the ambiguities around her relation both with Hutch and Christian, a bigger and more sensual atractiveness to the overall story. Loosing those ambiguities breaks the story, I think.

This isn't to say that events like the example you give, of a possible threesome with her son roommates as he watches (althought I would never put the son watching) aren't a thrill to watch, its the way we'll arrive to them, that can make the story more compelling or make it derail into one of those fuck them all that you have here by the dozens.

 

[TonyMurray]

Okay; I see your point but I guess that once again I am failing to communicate effectively. If only in my mind, Vivian is a whore. And whores aren't terribly selective about sex partners (that's why they're whores).

For me, at least, the Sunshine/Rain scene was the Rubicon for Vivian. Up to that point, she could lie to herself that she was a good wife who only was doing what she had to for her husband (only with Christian and only for her husband's job; not at all because she is a whore). It's a crock of shite, but it gave her some illusion to hold on to.

When she pulled the threesome, she made it clear that she's just a sex hound who will hook up with anyone she can. After that I don't see why there's any limit for her on sex partners or what she does with them.

I find it ironic that people who enjoy watching her cheat on her husband might be bothered if she isn't faithful enough with the people she's cheating with (she's a whore!). I would expect that anyone who is a fan of cheating would be cheering for even more cheating.

I'm not criticizing, condemning, or anything else; I just really don't see why someone who cheated with this many people shouldn't add some more notches to her garter belt. Sunshine/Rain were not part of the "affair"; neither was the client in the hotel. She's just screwing anyone now. The only thing keeping me scratching my head is why (except for Porn Logic) that anyone is bothering to hide it; she knows that Hutch knows and he's too spineless of a cuck to ever do anything about it... ...I mean he still tries to date the unfaithful tramp and sleeps in the same bed with her. By this he's approving of what she's doing to him. Whether he admits it or not, he must be okay with it all. I guess his son won't mind when Mom pulls a threesome with his roommates and he watches.

I guess I truly don't understand the genre at all and need to give up trying.

I would offer at this point in the story that her moral character is not in question. But maybe that's just my viewpoint.

There's an emotional weight to this story that is the thing separating it from so many games here, and that is what MIGames is referring to above. Sure, seeing Vivian fucking all over the place would be hot, but it wouldn't be a story with the same emotional tug-of-war.

I think there's definitely an argument for the "whore v slut" discussion, which Adhdclassic addresses in the post I've quoted below. It's not about cheating with as many people as possible, which is where you (IMO) dilute the story, it's about the turmoil both Hutch and Vivian experience as a result of this single antagonist.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the "you're mine and you'll fuck who I say you'll fuck" part of it, because I also think that dilutes the story a bit, however that is all controlled by Christian, so I see it very differently to, for instance, Vivian going off on her own and fucking the mechanic just because she wants strange cock.

a whore is a promiscuous easy/sleazy woman. A woman is either a whore or not a whore. Strippers, porn actresses, OF whores, escorts, cheating wives and cheating gfs are all whores. Faithful non promiscuous = not a whore. Simple

Also, whores are not bad people they just like to fuck and that's totally fine, imo. I prefer whores irl ( 're predictable)

Even if I understand what you're saying, I have no idea why you've included strippers in that list, unless you're suggesting that all strippers fuck clients, which is just not the case at all.

Noticed in my old age words have become open to personal interpretation or usage. The word whore when I was growing up was pointed at prostitutes and pornstars due to profit. The word slut was for promiscuous women cheating women. Now these words are just given to all open clams.

I don't like either term (I steer clear of any derogatory names for women), but this is precisely the thing. Just going by definition, there's a difference between the two. As with many things though, modern usage is slowly diluting that difference...

 

[Ed Hardy_32]

Honestly, the more I think about it, the less obvious this whole distinction becomes. In theory the line is simple: being promiscuous without any commitments is one thing, and cheating in a relationship is something completely different. That makes sense on paper.

But in My Husband’s Boss, the story isn’t finished yet. In the end we might find out that Vivian cheated for an important reason or simply because she wanted to. And that raises another question: do those motives actually change anything?

Because morally, cheating is still cheating. Even if there are mitigating circumstances, someone is still breaking another person’s trust. And that’s why putting characters into these fixed categories like „slut” or „whore” feels a bit too simplistic to me.

In the context of the game, these words seem more like narrative tools than a serious judgment of women. And honestly, trying to label Vivian when we don’t even know the full story or her motives yet doesn’t make much sense to me.

And I agree with what was said above about ambiguity being a big part of her appeal. Those inner conflicts and contradictions are what make Vivian interesting to follow. If the story loses that psychological tension, it risks becoming just another generic „fuck everyone“ type of game- and this one clearly aims for something more nuanced.

 

[MIGames]

There's an emotional weight to this story that is the thing separating it from so many games here, and that is what MIGames is referring to above. Sure, seeing Vivian fucking all over the place would be hot, but it wouldn't be a story with the same emotional tug-of-war.

I think there's definitely an argument for the "whore v slut" discussion, which Adhdclassic addresses in the post I've quoted below. It's not about cheating with as many people as possible, which is where you (IMO) dilute the story, it's about the turmoil both Hutch and Vivian experience as a result of this single antagonist.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the "you're mine and you'll fuck who I say you'll fuck" part of it, because I also think that dilutes the story a bit, however that is all controlled by Christian, so I see it very differently to, for instance, Vivian going off on her own and fucking the mechanic just because she wants strange cock.

Even if I understand what you're saying, I have no idea why you've included strippers in that list, unless you're suggesting that all strippers fuck clients, which is just not the case at all.

I don't like either term (I steer clear of any derogatory names for women), but this is precisely the thing. Just going by definition, there's a difference between the two. As with many things though, modern usage is slowly diluting that difference...

I totally agree with this "you're mine and you'll fuck who I say you'll fuck". This part was the one where I think SC Stories went kind of overboard (sorry for this). I believe it was avoidable even if the aim was to assert power and dominance. A more subtle way would have been better even if Christian turns many time to a very brutish character. Also, the signature event, that comes as a consequence of that attempt to assert power is debatable. Cause the main issue here is the shifts in Christian role, one moment he's asking sorry and telling her he'll take her home as she asked, and the other he's being utterly possessive. I would prefer an approach more based on the enticing of Vivian desires. The example of Vivian fucking the mechanic makes sense to me if its a part of that slow descend of Vivian into the dark path of her inner turmoils and desires.

 

[MIGames]

Honestly, the more I think about it, the less obvious this whole distinction becomes. In theory the line is simple: being promiscuous without any commitments is one thing, and cheating in a relationship is something completely different. That makes sense on paper.

But in My Husband’s Boss, the story isn’t finished yet. In the end we might find out that Vivian cheated for an important reason or simply because she wanted to. And that raises another question: do those motives actually change anything?

Because morally, cheating is still cheating. Even if there are mitigating circumstances, someone is still breaking another person’s trust. And that’s why putting characters into these fixed categories like „slut” or „whore” feels a bit too simplistic to me.

In the context of the game, these words seem more like narrative tools than a serious judgment of women. And honestly, trying to label Vivian when we don’t even know the full story or her motives yet doesn’t make much sense to me.

And I agree with what was said above about ambiguity being a big part of her appeal. Those inner conflicts and contradictions are what make Vivian interesting to follow. If the story loses that psychological tension, it risks becoming just another generic „fuck everyone“ type of game- and this one clearly aims for something more nuanced.

I totally agree with your last paragraph, thanks for highlighting that. That is for me the key and fundamental point of this story, and what sets it apart. Without the psycological tension SC Stories as brought into it, the story would loose all appeal.

 

[Filipis]

There's an emotional weight to this story that is the thing separating it from so many games here, and that is what MIGames is referring to above. Sure, seeing Vivian fucking all over the place would be hot, but it wouldn't be a story with the same emotional tug-of-war.

I think there's definitely an argument for the "whore v slut" discussion, which Adhdclassic addresses in the post I've quoted below. It's not about cheating with as many people as possible, which is where you (IMO) dilute the story, it's about the turmoil both Hutch and Vivian experience as a result of this single antagonist.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the "you're mine and you'll fuck who I say you'll fuck" part of it, because I also think that dilutes the story a bit, however that is all controlled by Christian, so I see it very differently to, for instance, Vivian going off on her own and fucking the mechanic just because she wants strange cock.

Even if I understand what you're saying, I have no idea why you've included strippers in that list, unless you're suggesting that all strippers fuck clients, which is just not the case at all.

I don't like either term (I steer clear of any derogatory names for women), but this is precisely the thing. Just going by definition, there's a difference between the two. As with many things though, modern usage is slowly diluting that difference...

I totally agree with this "you're mine and you'll fuck who I say you'll fuck". This part was the one where I think SC Stories went kind of overboard (sorry for this). I believe it was avoidable even if the aim was to assert power and dominance. A more subtle way would have been better even if Christian turns many time to a very brutish character. Also, the signature event, that comes as a consequence of that attempt to assert power is debatable. Cause the main issue here is the shifts in Christian role, one moment he's asking sorry and telling her he'll take her home as she asked, and the other he's being utterly possessive. I would prefer an approach more based on the enticing of Vivian desires. The example of Vivian fucking the mechanic makes sense to me if its a part of that slow descend of Vivian into the dark path of her inner turmoils and desires.

Yup, I also very much disliked the “you’ll fuck who I order you to fuck” approach with Christian. That already dilutes the emotional weight of the story. I’d prefer if he was more possessive of Vivian (even if ultimately he will discard her); now that this particular dominance was established between them, what’s stopping Christian from pimping her out? (If not possessive feelings that would prevent him sharing her)

 

[Dessolos]

a whore is a promiscuous easy/sleazy woman. A woman is either a whore or not a whore. Strippers, porn actresses, OF whores, escorts, cheating wives and cheating gfs are all whores. Faithful non promiscuous = not a whore. Simple

Also, whores are not bad people they just like to fuck and that's totally fine, imo. I prefer whores irl ( 're predictable)

even that I would disagree with other than escorts but I guess it depends on said person really and what they consider being a whore when it comes stuff like career's related to sex work or cheating girlfriends. Personally id only consider Escorts and pornstars id put more in a grey area cause they may act like one for their job but not outside of it.

 

[DarkArchon]

I totally agree with this "you're mine and you'll fuck who I say you'll fuck". This part was the one where I think SC Stories went kind of overboard (sorry for this). I believe it was avoidable even if the aim was to assert power and dominance. A more subtle way would have been better even if Christian turns many time to a very brutish character. Also, the signature event, that comes as a consequence of that attempt to assert power is debatable. Cause the main issue here is the shifts in Christian role, one moment he's asking sorry and telling her he'll take her home as she asked, and the other he's being utterly possessive. I would prefer an approach more based on the enticing of Vivian desires. The example of Vivian fucking the mechanic makes sense to me if its a part of that slow descend of Vivian into the dark path of her inner turmoils and desires.

I have a slightly different take on Christian's line, "you're mine and you'll fuck who I say you'll fuck." I see where people think this dilutes the relationship between Christian and Vivian with it making him seem less possessive. I think the statement is more about showing Christian's sadism towards Vivian. Much of Christian's desire for Vivian is about making her suffer. Even wrapping her around his finger sexually is a form of sadism on his part. He doesn't like making her cum because he likes her, he enjoys making her cum because it feeds his ego and gives him power over her. Like a drug dealer's power over an addict. I don't think Christian is obsessed with Vivian like some people on the thread do. He finds her attractive, and enjoys fucking her, but making Vivian and Hutch suffer is much more what this is all about, in my opinion, than any desire to possess her. If Vivian wasn't married to Hutch, Christian would probably just fuck her a few times and discard her. The real fun for him is making them both suffer.

 

[TonyMurray]

I have a slightly different take on Christian's line, "you're mine and you'll fuck who I say you'll fuck." I see where people think this dilutes the relationship between Christian and Vivian with it making him seem less possessive. I think the statement is more about showing Christian's sadism towards Vivian. Much of Christian's desire for Vivian is about making her suffer. Even wrapping her around his finger sexually is a form of sadism on his part. He doesn't like making her cum because he likes her, he enjoys making her cum because it feeds his ego and gives him power over her. Like a drug dealer's power over an addict. I don't think Christian is obsessed with Vivian like some people on the thread do. He finds her attractive, and enjoys fucking her, but making Vivian and Hutch suffer is much more what this is all about, in my opinion, than any desire to possess her. If Vivian wasn't married to Hutch, Christian would probably just fuck her a few times and discard her. The real fun for him is making them both suffer.

Just to clarify what I meant when I said about it diluting things, I was referring to the overall story, not the relationship between Vivian and Christian. If Vivian is fucking lots of people, it loses the emotional weight for me, and becomes just a "fuck 'em all" story, rather than an affair story. Even though lots of people have said that they see Vivian loving life and just wanting cock now, despite what she's doing you can still see the emotional turmoil she's going through. It seems like she can't stop herself, and that battle is half of the story for me - the other half being Hutch's own battle, and (hopefully) how he's going to (eventually) react.

I see the possessiveness and the ownership side of it, although I personally don't understand the desire to prove that by making her fuck someone else (in terms of not being someone that works for at all - I know what it means and why some people would want it, I'm just not one of those people, so it's a "different strokes" thing).

I completely agree on the suffering part, and that being a big part of the draw for Christian, and I also agree that if Vivian wasn't married (and perhaps specifically to Hutch), then he probably wouldn't be interested - or at least he would have gone there just once or twice and then moved on.