TonyMurray

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By the way, it turns out that Vivian betrayed Hutch's trust again (Now that's unexpected!), because the only thing he asked for was to be home at night with him, to come home after all that evening “work”. And we're going to have tearful scenes again. Lots of tears... Or maybe there won't be any, because I don't think she cares about his feelings anymore.
So I said their agreement was for her to spend the night at home (if I remember correctly, could be wrong). Well, and I'm evaluating exactly the theory you described above based on the screenshots.
I don't believe in Vivian's love for Hutch, and I don't believe her tears. The only thing I believe is that she's sorry that Hutch found out. There may have been love once, a long time ago, but Vivian turned Hutch into what he is now - weak and spineless. Killed the man in him. Because it's obvious that she's in charge of the family, and she makes most of the decisions (as indicated by Hutch's phrase: “Let me be the man of the house for once”).
I wouldn't be surprised that she has cheated before, and the tears of regret are only because Hutch might guess (indeed, why wouldn't he guess...). This is my personal opinion, you may not agree with it.
As wt859 points out, your comments are based on screenshots/renders that you don't know the context of. What we can do at the moment is speculate, but what we can't do is say something has happened unless we've seen it happen.
 
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As wt859 points out, your comments are based on screenshots/renders that you don't know the context of. What we can do at the moment is speculate, but what we can't do is say something has happened unless we've seen it happen.
I don't understand what the complaint is? We're all discussing and sharing our thoughts on the story here, aren't we? It's not like I insulted anyone (except Vivian). Yes the opinion is based on screenshots, just like the opinions of many people here.
 
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I don't understand what the complaint is? We're all discussing and sharing our thoughts on the story here, aren't we? It's not like I insulted anyone (except Vivian). Yes the opinion is based on screenshots, just like the opinions of many people here.
Yes, but you were saying something has happened, but it hasn't happened, and that's what the other user was trying to point out to you, that's all.
 
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Yes, but you were saying something has happened, but it hasn't happened, and that's what the other user was trying to point out to you, that's all.
Yeah, but I was responding to a comment with a theory and just assumed that if that theory is to be believed, then Vivian betrayed trust. Maybe the translator let me down again, I thought it was logical. My bad.
 
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Everything we are saying at this point n the previews is a guess... It is fun to just make the assumptions of What we think will happen. And, Who will be involved. That said I think Hutch will pull back further from Vivian and that come out in a big way against Her and possibly Christian. Especially if Christian uses her for his clients toy.
 

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100% agree! I'll never understand people who don't like NTR playing a VN within the genre, then complaining about it. Imagine if the dev stepped back from the brutality from here on out - it would be completely out of place.
Like Seriously!! Input is definitely a good thing, but let em Cook!! If you want something your way go create your own novel!! Do you booboo :geek:
 
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Everything we are saying at this point n the previews is a guess... It is fun to just make the assumptions of What we think will happen. And, Who will be involved. That said I think Hutch will pull back further from Vivian and that come out in a big way against Her and possibly Christian. Especially if Christian uses her for his clients toy.
I definitely like the sound of this!!
 

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I believe that Christian will not just be the boss exploiting the wife of the unfortunate, cuckolded employee, but I think that as the story progresses, we will see him fall in love with Vivian. Eventually, he will attempt to emotionally win her over from her husband, who will increasingly withdraw into himself and make mistake after mistake, driving his wife further away. Initially, she will be opposed to her duties, but gradually she will accept the boss's advances with growing lust, eventually questioning her own life. We shall see, but I think this is what the developer has in mind. The school, the boys, the son, the students, and the mechanic will all serve as secondary subplots.
 

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I believe that Christian will not just be the boss exploiting the wife of the unfortunate, cuckolded employee, but I think that as the story progresses, we will see him fall in love with Vivian. Eventually, he will attempt to emotionally win her over from her husband, who will increasingly withdraw into himself and make mistake after mistake, driving his wife further away. Initially, she will be opposed to her duties, but gradually she will accept the boss's advances with growing lust, eventually questioning her own life. We shall see, but I think this is what the developer has in mind. The school, the boys, the son, the students, and the mechanic will all serve as secondary subplots.
Again we're all speaking hypothetically here, but can resumes ur post by "every NTR story". I have several objections here :

- "but gradually she will accept the boss's advances with growing lust" : i don't get how it could be higher, she's already really complacent to say the least.

- "husband, who will increasingly withdraw into himself and make mistake after mistake" : you say that like their relationship is salvageable : it isn't. The imagery of what he's seen and heard and the trauma will never leave him. The big mistake is to stay with her, but no story to be told if not.

- "I think that as the story progresses, we will see him fall in love with Vivian" : i think it's very unlikely. This guy hasa pb with how he's getting off. Maybe a past trauma.

I think the ambition of the dev is to tell a NTR story from a more darker pov than usual tropes where the woman becomes happily the ultimate slut. Some blood will have to be spilled here.
 

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Again we're all speaking hypothetically here, but can resumes ur post by "every NTR story". I have several objections here :

- "but gradually she will accept the boss's advances with growing lust" : i don't get how it could be higher, she's already really complacent to say the least.

- "husband, who will increasingly withdraw into himself and make mistake after mistake" : you say that like their relationship is salvageable : it isn't. The imagery of what he's seen and heard and the trauma will never leave him. The big mistake is to stay with her, but no story to be told if not.

- "I think that as the story progresses, we will see him fall in love with Vivian" : i think it's very unlikely. This guy hasa pb with how he's getting off. Maybe a past trauma.

I think the ambition of the dev is to tell a NTR story from a more darker pov than usual tropes where the woman becomes happily the ultimate slut. Some blood will have to be spilled here.
  1. Acceptance of the boss's advances: It is true that Vivian may initially seem compliant, but the evolution of her desire could be represented as a growing awareness and acceptance of her feelings, rather than just an increase in physical desire.
  2. Relationship with the husband: It's understandable to think that the relationship is not salvageable due to the trauma experienced by the husband. However, the story could explore the complexity of human emotions and how people might try to mend what has been broken, even if not always successfully.
  3. Christian's love for Vivian: Although it seems unlikely that Christian would develop true romantic feelings for Vivian due to his personal issues, the story could still explore some kind of emotional bond or dependency between them that goes beyond physical attraction.
  4. Darker point of view: If the creator's intent is to tell an NTR story from a darker perspective, it could include elements of psychological drama or emotional violence, taking the narrative into less traveled territories beyond the usual clichés.
 

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Let don't exaggerate. This isn't a serious novel, just a porn story in the NTR (only?) style. But it's a very one-dimensional style with a short shelf life. For example, if the first night of betrayal was pretty good, then the toilet scenes were formulaic, banal and boring. And let's not forget that NTR is based on humiliating the MC. If something like this isn't part of a larger story, but the only story to tell, then over time this humiliation will reduce the MC to the role of a stupid, defenseless kitten, beaten with an iron crowbar. And really, few people like or are passionate about such stories. Not to mention the fact that such a story is predictable and simply boring. I wonder if the author knows about it and takes it into account.
 

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Let don't exaggerate. This isn't a serious novel, just a porn story in the NTR (only?) style. But it's a very one-dimensional style with a short shelf life. For example, if the first night of betrayal was pretty good, then the toilet scenes were formulaic, banal and boring. And let's not forget that NTR is based on humiliating the MC. If something like this isn't part of a larger story, but the only story to tell, then over time this humiliation will reduce the MC to the role of a stupid, defenseless kitten, beaten with an iron crowbar. And really, few people like or are passionate about such stories. Not to mention the fact that such a story is predictable and simply boring. I wonder if the author knows about it and takes it into account.
I didn't think the bathroom sex scene was formulaic, banal, or boring. I enjoyed it quite a bit, actually. And I don't think NTR is based on humiliating the MC, either. Sure that's one (pretty common) element, but it's not a requirement, let alone a basis for the sub-genre.

Also, I understand lots of people are into those stories, by the way. If the first release here is anything to go by though, this one will remain anything but "predictable and simply boring", so we've nothing to worry about!
 
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OK.. We have beat this horse so to speak. Here is my guess and observations.

Hutch... Is has already withdrwan from Vivian physically. He will not touch her.. or let her touch him. I do not see this improving with the Open marriage decision. In the previews the outings with Christian seem to continue as well as flaunting the sex open in his face.
Vivian... I think se does love her husband emotionally maybe even physically... But she will not get the chance. And, As mentioned above Hutch will not give her any emotional relief .. so she will possibly begin to get lost . She may start to unconsciously seek that somewhere else. My thought is as she gets whored out by Christian...
Christian... He like to push peoples buttons. I think he will use the open marriage as a way to just push Hutch buttons. The good news on that is he keeps having sex with Vivian

part 3... is going to be key... as the dev said... We ALL May be wrong... but wow how much fun it is to guess !!
 

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I definitely think she cares about Hutch's feelings - I think her inner turmoil is her trying to come to terms with her own feelings.
I don't know if a woman cares much about the feelings of her husband when she cheats.
It would be hypocrite if she continues to cheat and tells to herself that she cares about her husbands feelings. (who looks like a picture of misery)
Vivian should have quit the affair on her own when Hutch made the proposal to open up the marriage. (this was the last exit before it gets really bad)
She must be naive if she thinks it does not have any consequences along the way.
It hurts the husband in the first place and later she gets hurt, because the marriage will be destroyed beyond repair.
It's like a boomerang, she has the fun now and later the pain.
She will get dumped by the husband and lover.
Vivian should not have cheated in the first place, but otherwise we would not have a game.:)
 
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I don't know if a woman cares about the feelings of her husband when she cheats.
Vivian should have quit the affair at the moment on her own when Hutch made the proposal to open up the marriage.
She must be naive if she thinks it does not have any consequences along the way.
It hurts the husband in the first place and later she gets hurt, because the marriage will be destroyed beyond repair.
It's like a boomerang, she has the fun now and later the pain.
She will get dumped by the husband and lover.
Vivian should not have cheated in the first place, but otherwise we would not have a game.:)
True that...it is a game ... and in this one...people need to be the bad guy..or girl..or both.
 
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I made a little gif with the NTR scenes in it, if you want to help me make it better, just send me the pics you want in it, as long as there not the same ones im already using. Also if someone could send me that pic again of Vivian in that hot open green dress but in a png or jif file, i have it in the avif file but cant open it
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I don't know if a woman cares much about the feelings of her husband when she cheats.
It would be hypocrite if she continues to cheat and tells to herself that she cares about her husbands feelings, who looks like a picture of misery.
Vivian should have quit the affair on her own when Hutch made the proposal to open up the marriage. (this was the last exit before it gets really bad)
She must be naive if she thinks it does not have any consequences along the way.
It hurts the husband in the first place and later she gets hurt, because the marriage will be destroyed beyond repair.
It's like a boomerang, she has the fun now and later the pain.
She will get dumped by the husband and lover.
Vivian should not have cheated in the first place, but otherwise we would not have a game.:)
Thats really true what you are saying . It happened to a very good friend of mine and his wife when she cheated on him at her work as a receptionist in a luxus hotel when she accepted an invitation for drinking wine in the room of a vip guest . She underestimate what there happened and she lose her control.
 
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