Include a gratuitous scene that might not fit completely with the main story?


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wt859

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Yeah, I'm definitely not a fan of NTR, but I occasionally play these kinds of games, and there are some good ones. This one I don't consider good. Because here they decided to show emotions, suffering of characters, worries...But as I think further the author will forget about these worries of Vivian, because she was allowed to fuck. And as already discounted ‘director's version’ from the toilet, she enjoys it very much. It's not in the game, but it's a good indication of the author's intentions for Vivian. She's the main character in the game. And it's going to get easier and easier for her. And for me personally, all the crying and worrying before just devalues it. I don't really believe them. Words are just words, actions - that's what really shows the true essence of people and Vivian in particular.
Your take on the VN is quite interesting, but also perplexing. On one hand, you criticise the game for being "typical" NTR, but also dismiss its clear psychological aspects within the characters and their decision-making.

I can understand you questioning their reasoning, especially about their financial situation (having two cars, etc.), but you also deliberately dismissed their internal struggles because of a perceived notion that Vivian would care less in the future. You don't know that'll happen though.

So, on one hand, you say it's "typical" NTR, but on the other criticise it for showing character emotions. You're contradicting yourself and, not to sound judgemental, but I think it's due to your clear dislike of the NTR genre. However, the fact the VN has made you feel this much shows it's doing something right.
 

Gattsu#Struggler

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Well it better be with Rupert too since he’s the one who bought her exotic oil filter and installed it for free
Vivian has an overprotective attitude towards vulnerable people. That's why she went to the office at the first best opportunity when it came to Hutch and the loss of his job was at stake.
Of course she will help Ruppert as soon as she notices that something is causing him grief...that lucky little rascal.
 

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I just rewatched it and she left with the shoes and dress... Now I do not know about the panties in the backyard ???
Maybe Christian will bring the panties to work and in front of the office take them out and say “hey man your wife left her panties at my house last night, can you give her this pair back and tell her to wear crotchless panties next time”
 

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True... but is does not explain where Hutch may have gone the time that Vivian could not find him.... He said errands.
 

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Ok... here is my out there idea. Hutch has a plan to take down Christian. Hutch mentioned that there were only 2 companies that did what they do in town. Hutch has all the inside information on Christians company. He did sale, Stats and accounting for Christian. He knows the business. My thought is he will try and takeover Christians company. He need help. ( Here is the out there part ) . I think he gets the wife of his brother to back him. Hutch gambles that Christian is pulling the same con on her as he is with Vivian. She is the money..... She also gets her daughter Addision in the game . Together they get the rest of Christians customers to come to a new company with Hutch at the wheel. They already know him... Maybe Christian has already blackmailed some of them as well. No brainer for them.
 

Gattsu#Struggler

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Let’s remember the day when Hutch is not around (saturday?) – in my opinion, he’s handling important business that will help him in the future (fight with Chris)

But for now, all the speculations are really far off the mark.
Let’s allow SC Stories make a move :)
some pictures... :)
Day 03 is a friday as Vivian wishes the class a good weekend.
Day 04 is a saturday. Vivian visits Sawyer and the garage.
Day 05 she calls Sawyer and tells him that his dad left this morning before she got up. So that means day 05 is a sunday where Hutch went M.I.A.!
Day 06 is a monday. Hutch is at the office and Vivian has freetime as Mr. Pryzbylewski the regular teacher is back.
 
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too many concepts, I just think that Hucth spent the whole day thinking about whether to stay with his wife or not, also to let off steam, to avoid committing something crazy.
 
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wt859

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too many concepts, I just think that Hucth spent the whole day thinking about whether to stay with his wife or not, also to let off steam, to avoid committing something crazy.
I agree with this. There are too many theories that make Hutch out to be a mastermind behind the scenes. With the context we have about Hutch's personality, he was most likely just thinking.
 
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Gattsu#Struggler

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Hutch is not going to have a good end in this story neither does Vivian. He can't defend his pride and not the honor of his wife.
Sorry but I don't see that happening. He proved 2 times that he can't plan or organize anything. Vivian had to look up for him at the internet on how to deal with clients and also the dine & wine scenario had been Vivian's idea before Christian took over. And what about the empty blog?
There is no way Hutch takes the initiative to run any plot against anyone!

Just take a look at the preview pics Dev sent us a couple of days before. Hutch at the nudie bar!
You are going to the nudie bar to have fun, relax and let some steam off. Even Al Bundy, a shoe salesman knows how to appreciate that kind of place. What does Hutch do? Exactly...n o t h i n g !
 
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)In such a mental state as the MC was in at the dinner. Don't be surprised that people can't think, I don't think anyone can throw 22 years out the window. Mc had already guessed and knew what Chris was like, so he was already afraid of the clothes, if you remember, before leaving, MC noted Vivien's clothes. I think MC will be alpha in the end, maybe he won't stay with Vivien, for example with Addison.
 
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Hutch is not going to have a good end in this story neither does Vivian. He can't defend his pride and not the honor of his wife.
Sorry but I don't see that happening. He proved 2 times that he can't plan or organize anything. Vivian had to look up for him at the internet on how to deal with clients and also the dine & wine scenario had been Vivian's idea before Christian took over. And what about the empty blog?
There is no way Hutch takes the initiative to run any plot against anyone!

Just take a look at the preview pics Dev sent us a couple of days before. Hutch at the nudie bar!
You are going to the nudie bar to have fun, relax and let some steam off. Even Al Bundy, a shoe salesman knows how to appreciate that kind of place. What does Hutch do? Exactly...n o t h i n g !
Tbh, Vivian's "ideas" are plainly stupid and it shows her actual experience of sales comes from the shows she watches on tv :

- Chrsitian's business appears to be medium sized and definitely not proposing high end products. Spending time and money to wine and dine the client would be only worth it if he would command very large amount of items. Most of their clients will only be responsive to the bottom line factor, you can visit them and sign a contract in the same run if you're convincing.

-Her husband has been doing this for 6 years, so he must have been good at sales ( espcially considering the first times he has lost lcients ,his job is in jeopardy)

- Wining and dining clients are eligible tactics when you wanna "charm" a client, meaning it's very hard to get. Most seen in cases the client got so many choices : choice of an attorney, investment banker, etc.

All this to say Vivian trying to help her husband lookin up google and having seen all Suits seasons is purely laughable.
 

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Something tells me its going to be Vivian who will want to return to marriage. Hutch is going to shut it down and give her a full recap of her escapades, as well as why he allowed her to do what she wanted to do. He'll most likely tell her he gave her a pass for his boss, he did not expect her to take this opportunity to fuck the town. Also he will blow up her spot about her doing something with the guys at her sons school and embarrassed her son now he wants to transfer schools because he is being bullied and harrased about how much to fuck your mom. She will lose her job because pictures will show up of her. Hutch and his son will move away to get some distance. Addison will not be with Hutch.
 

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Tbh, Vivian's "ideas" are plainly stupid and shows her actual experience of sales comes from the shows she watches on tv :

- Chrsitian's business appears to be medium sized and definitely not proposing high end products. Spending time and money to wine and dine the client would be only worth it if he would command very large amount of items. Most of their clients will only be responsive to the bottom line factor, you can visit them and sign a contract in the same run if you're convincing.

-Her husband has been doing this for 6 years, so he must have been good at sales ( espcially considering the first times he has lost lcients ,his job is in jeopardy)

- Wining and dining clients are eligible tactics when you wanna "charm" a client, meaning it's very hard to get. Most seen in cases the client got so many choices : choice of an attorney, investment banker, etc.

All this to say Vivian trying to help her husband lookin up google and having seen all Suits seasons is purely laughable.
Well, we don't know what the company does, we know very little about it. The only part of it we see is the original office, kept for nostalgia, amongst other things, when the company expanded. There is a warehouse as well, so at the very least one other location. What we see only houses the sales function, plus a bit of admin. There are only two companies in the city providing whatever service it is, and the money is obviously good enough that other jobs just can't touch it, or Hutch wouldn't have been as dismissive of them during the job search, stating that he wouldn't be able to make as much elsewhere.

We don't know that Hutch has never lost clients before. We just know that as the catalyst for this game, he was told their rival was courting their clients, Hutch was told to shore up his portfolio (as, presumably the other guys were also told to do with their clients), and Hutch wasn't successful with two of his. I'd say the issue is more because it was two in a day, and after he had specifically been told to make sure it didn't happen. Businesses lose clients all the time, I bet everyone in that office has had clients drop them at some point, and they're still working there.

Wining and dining and trying to charm a prospective client is no less important when there are just two options available than when there are dozens. In fact, it's probably more important when the options are limited.
 
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Something tells me its going to be Vivian who will want to return to marriage. Hutch is going to shut it down and give her a full recap of her escapades, as well as why he allowed her to do what she wanted to do. He'll most likely tell her he gave her a pass for his boss, he did not expect her to take this opportunity to fuck the town. Also he will blow up her spot about her doing something with the guys at her sons school and embarrassed her son now he wants to transfer schools because he is being bullied and harrased about how much to fuck your mom. She will lose her job because pictures will show up of her. Hutch and his son will move away to get some distance. Addison will not be with Hutch.
That would be a very interesting outcome. And with the special effect from the dev design is gonna be an amazing kinetik novel.
 
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