Dealbreaker

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BTW with regard to people here on both "sides" - I'm always impressed with your command of the screenshots and saves and Robb123456 what you say about going over the files of the game. I'm not that organized.
 

Robb123456

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BTW with regard to people here on both "sides" - I'm always impressed with your command of the screenshots and saves and Robb123456 what you say about going over the files of the game. I'm not that organized.
You just have to in day03.rpy and here we go :

nWhat are you doing?!"
show lnp14
w "{size=-5}{color=#575551}~ Loud Whisper ~{/color}{/size}\nYou can't be calling me in the middle of the night... or ever!"
show lnp15
b "{size=-5}{color=#575551}~ On Phone ~{/color}{/size}\nI needed to make sure you were okay."
show lnp16
w "{size=-5}{color=#575551}~ Loud Whisper ~{/color}{/size}\nOkay? No, I'm not okay! I'm losing my God damned mind. I've been on eggshells all night."
show lnp17
w "{size=-5}{color=#575551}~ Loud Whisper ~{/color}{/size}\nWhat did you say to him today?"
show lnp18
w "{size=-5}{color=#575551}~ Loud Whisper ~{/color}{/size}\nHe keeps asking questions about what happened between us. I think he knows!"
show lnp19
b "{size=-5}{color=#575551}~ On Phone ~{/color}{/size}\nNah... not a chance. He was a good boy and did what he was told."
scene lnp20
w "{size=-5}{color=#575551}~ Loud Whisper ~{/color}{/size}\nI don't know. That assignment you gave him... he didn't write anything down. So what was he doing the whole time?"
show lnp21
w "{size=-5}{color=#575551}~ Loud Whisper ~{/color}{/size}\nAnd he's acting super weird. He's asking open ended questions, like he's trying to get me to admit something."

w "{size=-5}{color=#575551}~ Softly ~{/color}{/size}\nHe even said he was exhausted because he was awake all night!"
 

Gattsu#Struggler

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That's what is called a suspicion. This is apparently a matter of belief and how you see the characters, so we won't come together. Obviously you thinkk that people always are honest to themselves, I dont't. I allow myself a judgement of what is in the realm of reasonable possibility in a given situation and you do you.
Again wrong. I just take the facts from the game!
You instead are taking reality into account. That's the difference between you and me!
 

Dealbreaker

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Again wrong. I just take the facts from the game!
You instead are taking reality into account. That's the difference between you and me!
Fictional characters, too, have a inner subjective reality. Their utterances are not "facts" in the same way as the utterances of real persons are not facts. You have in both cases to infer the inner reality from what these persons say. And there can be a descrepancy between what they say and what they really feel and and most times there is.
 
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Hattyrulz

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Im extremly curious the end of May or maybe the end of April
the dev posted that he was done with day 1 renders sometime back. and i made a post regarding possible timing for the next update when i was talking about the ring on the bedside table. if each update had about 5000 renders and assuming 6 days per update .... it would be the exact time frame that the dev has given late april or late may depending on the days and the renders for the update.
Vivian doesn't know that Hutch knows and is hurt.
Wrong!
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She knew it at that stage!
Before that she was just counter-questioning Hutch's questions to find out if he knows something!
since day 2 she has been in denial that hutch knows even when he keep cornering her with the questions about that dinner night. that's the reason y i say she is dumb to the point its logic breaking. also the reason y i say vivian is delusional.

not counting he's straight up lyung to her at this moment.
just so that people don't get confused the he here is christian. and he(christian) has been lying to her since the first night about hutch not knowing about what happened.

Again wrong. I just take the facts from the game!
You instead are taking reality into account. That's the difference between you and me!
even if you take the facts they are not presented in a linear fashion. they are so many back and forth facts which support each other in relation to how the reader interprets. how vivian confide in christian who she know is a just trying to use her. as per the game facts. and even then she confides in him. such instance people tend to interpret in different ways. or the fact that he says the many such relationships where the husband knows about the wife and this doesn't raise any alerts for vivian. as you posted she only finds out about it in the car park scene but y doesn't she relate the lies he has been telling her and that is what is destroying her marriage. these are just different views..... some rationalize some relate it to real-life and so on .
 
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Gattsu#Struggler

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since day 2 she has been in denial that hutch knows even when he keep cornering her with the questions about that dinner night
She has an inner conflict, that's for sure but what I'm saying is why something admitting to someone who gets then definetly hurt when you are not sure that the other person is sensing or knowing something. That makes no sense imo.
 

Guszti242

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The ring on the bedside table is not from this game. It's from his first half-finished game that he won't release.
 

Hattyrulz

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It's quite easy with URM to get your own replay gallery.
She has an inner conflict, that's for sure but what I'm saying is why something admitting to someone who gets then definetly hurt when you are not sure that the other person is sensing or knowing something. That makes no sense imo.
ty for the urm info... now i dont have to play through the game to get some screens for the nth time.:). i mean she does know hutch is acting wierd from the conversation she has with christian. and even then she is deluding herself just because her partner in bed from the previous night said so. this is a big flaw, that's how i rationalise her continuing to lie when she has not understood the signs behaviour and questions of hutch since the night she fuck hutch's boss.
The ring on the bedside table is not from this game. It's from his first half-finished game that he won't release.
i know the dev said its not... i was just giving luc77 a possible timeframe where i posted the possible next update release timing and my calculations for it.
 
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Robb123456

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ty for the urm info... now i dont have to play through the game to get some screens for the nth time.:). i mean she does know hutch is acting wierd from the conversation she has with christian. and even then she is deluding herself just because her partner in bed from the previous night said so. this is a big flaw, that's how i rationalise her continuing to lie when she has not understood the signs behaviour and questions of hutch since the she fuck hutch's boss.

i know the dev said its not... i was just giving luc77 a possible timeframe where i posted the possible next update release timing and my calculations for it.
The only thing that goes for Vivian is her thinking that if Hutch knew, he would have confronted her. Which he didn't. Still.. I agree, a bit logic breaking.
 

packard1928

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Hutch is doing just what Christian said... soldering on... Vivian by not admitting to Hutch the infidelity's as Christian said give him a chance to make his own decision on the matter. He did ... he open the marriage . Now Hutch is still in control... He can still act on what she does or not. More will be reviled by Vivian this next release according to the dev. Stay tuned. I WISH HE GAVE US A LITTLE MORE PREVIEW OF THIS COMING RELEASE... Please one pic was not enough to base conversations.
 
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TheDuke9999

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Thing is regardless of the why she did it there are still choices as little as the choice that dictate what's really going on. What i mean is after the bangfest in the bathroom he pats his cheek looking for a kiss.. now a woman that is being forced or let's say is just doing it for sex would just say fuck off and walk out.. a woman that really felt bad about lying and cheating might even smack him in the face and leave.. a woman that has feeling's for the man will smile and kiss him while saying "asshole". Choices.. then knowing 100% Hutch caught you. You call the boss not to tell him to fuck off leave you alone and block his number and go home. You call him to warn him and figure out what to do. The boss is 100% her boyfriend right now and moving fast to make it more than that.. at first i thought Hutch was weak but I realize he is smart. Very smart. Give her free reign and see where her heart really is while he figures out his back up plan or divorce and revenge.. I like this VN alot.
 

packard1928

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Duke...you are right. Right now Vivian is in a crossroads. As we have discussed she dislike Christian ... a lot I believe... but, she loves what he can make her feel. I read all through this VN and she GENUINLY loves Hutch.. as many tears as she sheds for him and the body language while talking proves it all. But... Christian is a master manipulator.. and she can not deal with it. Hutch knows this and said it to Vivian. Dev said this release is about Vivian and she choices.... it should be enlightening to say the least....
 

UniPorn

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I was wondering, what are the official images of the next update? Only the one at the bar with the other girl?
 

Hattyrulz

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I was wondering, what are the official images of the next update? Only the one at the bar with the other girl?
thats the only sneakpeak that the dev confirmed.
at first i thought Hutch was weak but I realize he is smart. Very smart. Give her free reign and see where her heart really is while he figures out his back up plan or divorce and revenge.. I like this VN alot.
i like this theory.... is within reason... just curious y the change from hutch cuck to hutch smart??
 

Luc77

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In a moment we will reach classic forum wars :)

Christian Red Army vs. Vivian Blue Flag vs. Hutch White Collars

the game flames emotions

TheDuke9999 said:
at first i thought Hutch was weak but I realize he is smart. Very smart. Give her free reign and see where her heart really is while he figures out his back up plan or divorce and revenge.. I like this VN alot.
i like this theory.... is within reason... just curious y the change from hutch cuck to hutch smart??
The Duke is growing up ;)
 
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