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I've become aware that Vivian is always sad or angry. While the negative emotions are at the core of this story, I'm going to try and purposely let her smile where I can because I think she really is beautiful when she does.

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Agree !!! Maybe it will lighten the mood in a darker story.... I admit I want to see her smile while naked ! LOL just wishing.
 
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I've become aware that Vivian is always sad or angry. While the negative emotions are at the core of this story, I'm going to try and purposely let her smile where I can because I think she really is beautiful when she does.

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Any timeline on next update? Also loved the storyline and cinematic animations. :love:
 

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I've become aware that Vivian is always sad or angry. While the negative emotions are at the core of this story, I'm going to try and purposely let her smile where I can because I think she really is beautiful when she does.

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For the moment I don't see many reasons to smile. I hope she does not become happy with what she is doing.
 
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I've become aware that Vivian is always sad or angry. While the negative emotions are at the core of this story, I'm going to try and purposely let her smile where I can because I think she really is beautiful when she does.

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Wow, I never realized how white her teeth are, unless that’s Christians cum she brushes her teeth with :ROFLMAO:
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I've become aware that Vivian is always sad or angry. While the negative emotions are at the core of this story, I'm going to try and purposely let her smile where I can because I think she really is beautiful when she does.

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please don't give us(me) hope for a redemption arc for the couple.....:cry:. are these pics all from the next update?. vivian model(don't want this model named so but for now not other option) is the complete package....that model looks good in everything(all expressions). you said these are not sneak peeks but the 2,3and5th pics already have related sneak peaks posted already (are you rendering those pics just to post for us? if yes... then ty). i get the feeling that those happy pics of vivian(excluding the first one) are after she has spent time with christian or something related to christian... anyone else have similar thoughts on this.
 
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please don't give us(me) hope for a redemption arc for the couple.....:cry:. are these pics all from the next update?. vivian model is the complete package....that model looks good in everything(all expressions). you said these are not sneak peeks but the 2,3and5th pics already have related sneak peaks posted already (are you rendering those pics just to post of us?). i get the feeling that those happy pics of vivian(excluding the first one) are after she has spent time with christian or something related to christian... anyone else have similar thoughts on this.
Why does a ntr have to go through humiliation? In real life, how many couples have gone through such moments and come out on top? Fewer than those who have broken up, certainly. But it happens. This story is very realistic and human. We are not talking about the typical ntr story. In life a wife or husband can have a period of confusion. But they certainly don't go through it thinking, well you know what, it's done now and I'll fuck anything that moves. This story started out that way, and that's exactly what one expects from a real relationship that has a rough patch. If we lose the doubt that they can retrace their steps we lose realism. And we end up in yet another story where the wife becomes a slut without limits.
 
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The humiliation already happened. You mean the judgment.
No, I mean the humiliation perpetrated with contempt and malice. So far it has been a realistic humiliation that can happen to anyone in life. But we all know how classic ntr stories go. I hope it doesn't become one of those.
 

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Why does a ntr have to go through humiliation? In real life, how many couples have gone through such moments and come out on top? Fewer than those who have broken up, certainly. But it happens. This story is very realistic and human. We are not talking about the typical ntr story. In life a wife or husband can have a period of confusion. But they certainly don't go through it thinking, well you know what, it's done now and I'll fuck anything that moves. This story started out that way, and that's exactly what one expects from a real relationship that has a rough patch. If we lose the doubt that they can retrace their steps we lose realism. And we end up in yet another story where the wife becomes a slut without limits.
someone already posted about the humiliation in ntr... to summarise the humiliation happens at the end if it happens. in this kn we directly jump to the humiliation and have to deal with the fallout which is counter to the sequence of events in a standard ntr story. most of us(or just me) have had to use real life logic to make sense of the events and doing so blends the fiction and reality which pushes the story to the next level.
seems like you are reading too many of duke's posts and getting indoctrinated, but you should have your own thoughts.
 

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No, I mean the humiliation perpetrated with contempt and malice. So far it has been a realistic humiliation that can happen to anyone in life. But we all know how classic ntr stories go. I hope it doesn't become one of those.
The boss humiliated both with contempt and malice.
But apart from that, I got what you meant. But that is more focused on the wife than on the husband. You, like many here, don't want her to be degraded narratively., which could be seen as harshly judgemental. I don't say I want that myself, just pointing it out.
 

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The boss humiliated both with contempt and malice.
But apart from that, I got what you meant. But that is more focused on the wife than on the husband. You don't want her to be degraded narratively. Don't say I want that myself, just pointing it out.
I'm not talking about the boss. I'm talking about the couple and how the couple will experience it
 

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someone already posted about the humiliation in ntr... to summarise the humiliation happens at the end if it happens. in this kn we directly jump to the humiliation and have to deal with the fallout which is counter to the sequence of events in a standard ntr story. most of us(or just me) have had to use real life logic to make sense of the events and doing so blends the fiction and reality which pushes the story to the next level.
seems like you are reading too many of duke's posts and getting indoctrinated, but you should have your own thoughts.
Absolutely not. Why should I let someone indoctrinate me? I think you've got the wrong idea. Either I didn't explain myself well
 

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I'm not talking about the boss. I'm talking about the couple and how the couple will experience it
Humiliation has a perpetrator and a victim., you have to include the intention of the boss here, this determines the experience. And the husband has other experiences than the wife, they are not in unitiy in that moment any more.
 
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Humiliation has a perpetrator and a victim., you have to include the intention of the boss here, this determines the experience. And the husband has other experiences than the wife, they are not in unitiy in that moment any more.
I broke up a married couple. It happened to me. Now she's my wife and she never treated her ex like a doormat. And neither did I. It was a very very very difficult period for all three of us that in the end resolved itself as it did. For now, the feelings and doubts that I saw in the married couple seem familiar to me. What I saw my wife and her ex going through reminds me of what I saw between Vivian and Hutch. I didn't act like the boss but I was very tactful. I'm just evaluating how the married couple are experiencing the situation. And I like it. I find it realistic. And I hope it stays that way and that she doesn't throw herself out of the marriage on the spot.
 
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Absolutely not. Why should I let someone indoctrinate me? I think you've got the wrong idea. Either I didn't explain myself well
i meant indoctrination as a joke,if you have read the post in this thread. I'm sorry if you are offended. there is a post about what you wrote about ntr and humiliation. it's a chore to go through all those posts but i'm pretty sure we covered almost all in this thread topics/fetishes pertaining to this kn.
 

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And this, I think, makes the difference for the experience of the husband.
Thanks for explaining where you come from!
Do you think that in all that time I was ever sure of getting what I wanted? She changed her mind a thousand times. No, I'm coming with you, no I'm staying with him, no I'm coming with you, no I'm staying with him. It's this conflict that's missing in the NTR stories and that seems to be present here. And I hope it continues to be there until the end.
 

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please don't give us(me) hope for a redemption arc for the couple.....:cry:. are these pics all from the next update?. vivian model(don't want this model named so but for now not other option) is the complete package....that model looks good in everything(all expressions). you said these are not sneak peeks but the 2,3and5th pics already have related sneak peaks posted already (are you rendering those pics just to post for us? if yes... then ty). i get the feeling that those happy pics of vivian(excluding the first one) are after she has spent time with christian or something related to christian... anyone else have similar thoughts on this.

not quite like that,
pics 1 is complety new (new blouse)
pic 2 is probably (at this time) last in purple timeline - probably driver says somethin funy as a farewell
pic 3&4 - complety new, new outfit and probably from the same scene
and pic 5 - scena from pub, probably the beginning of the meeting "ooo what a meeting, nice to see you" :)
 
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