Black313X

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The only result that emerges from this for someone who said for not too long ago (yesterday) -

and given your review now is the fact that you're are a copmplete lost person seeking for attention.
Take care!
This does not negate what I said.
But:
1 - it concerns the scene I wrote about in the summary.
2 - it was a painful feeling of disgust.
And the author really has respect. For trying to bring something new to the genre of porn games.
And I have not been a lost person for a long time. I am a person with experience.
 

TheDuke9999

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the reason for me this VN is so riveting is most VN's you play they give one perspective. the dev has masterfully given all perspectives without dragging things out . great writing and flow . dev is able to put so much to interpret in the VN but leave so much hidden. this could be the NTR VN of all time honestly..
 

Dealbreaker

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the reason for me this VN is so riveting
Thought about this too. Apart from the shock impact, many have talked about early on, I would say the game combines
1. the deep fear (and experience, therefore the life experiences folks here project onto it in a more or less controlled manner...) of being cheated on and the humiliation lying in that experiences. I would say the imagination here played out in the game has actual nightmare qualities (the scenes at the beginning are structured like that, it's the ultimate torment chamber for cucked husbands).
2. but at the same time the game offers reasons and explanations for that cheating. It opens up a space of plausible (not really imo) deniability on the side of the wife about her real intentions and her acutal free will (and many discussions here are around exactly that, some are willing to give the wife the benefit of the doubt). So we can't just brush it off with clear moral dualities of right and wrong. The hurt we feel (for the MC) can''t transalte 1 to 1 into the righteous anger of the husband who simply suffers under a frivolous wife on a drunken evening or lusting for bigger cocks. So the hurt doesn't find an easy and instant relief in moral outrage (my outrage lies deeper, not on a moral, but on an existential level so to speak). It gets pent up.
3. Like every good story it creates a scenario in which there is no good "solution" or ending whatsoever. We are put into the position of the husband narratively in that we constantly ask ourselves what should he do no how should he react?. And there is no adequate reaction. The deed and the damage is irreversibly done. Like in real life. Nothing he can do. It now becomes the story of three characters who live on but now it can only get worse (even the boss has already reached his peak satisfaction in breaking the couple I would say. the rest is repetition). We want to protest against thiis dead end but our reason tells us, there is no point.
 
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TheDuke9999

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Thought about this too. Apart from the shock impact, many have talked about early on, I would say the game combines
1. the deep fear (and experience, therefore the life experiences folks here project onto it in a more or less controlled manner...) of being cheated on and the humiliation lying in that experiences. I would say the imagination here played out in the game has actual nightmare qualities (the scenes at the beginning a structured like that, it's the ultimate torment chamber for cucked husbands).
2. but at the same time the game offers reasons and explanations for that cheating. It opens up a space of plausible (not really imo) deniability on the side of the wife about her real intentions and her acutal free will (and many discussions here are around exactly that, some are willing to give the wife the benefit of the doubt). So we can't just brush it off with clear moral dualities of right and wrong. The hurt we feel (for the MC) can''t transalte 1 to 1 into the righteous anger of the husband who simply suffers under a frivolous wife on a drunken evening or lusting for bigger cocks. So the hurt doesn't find an easy and instant relief in moral outrage (my outrage lies deeper, not on a moral, but on an existential level so to speak). It gets pent up.
3. Like every good story it creates a scenario in which there is no good "solution" or ending whatsoever. We are put into the position of the husband narratively in that we constantly ask ourselves what should he do no how should he react?. And there is no adequate reaction. The deed and the damage is irreversibly done. Like in real life. Nothing he can do. It now becomes the story of three characters who live on but now it can only get worse (even the boss has already reached his peak satisfaction in breaking the couple I would say. the rest is repetition). We want to protest against thiis dead end but our reason tells us, there is no point.
i couldnt have said it better.. dev really encompasses every emotion and outcome or possibility in the VN it is amazing from looks, to actions to words its like any ending could be a possible ending
 
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True, As of now where the plot could go many different ways. The Dev was brilliant in leaving the guesswork to OUR imagination on what was happening, Why , and what they may have been thinking .
 
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It now becomes the story of three characters who live on but now it can only get worse (even the boss has already reached his peak satisfaction in breaking the couple I would say. the rest is repetition). We want to protest against thiis dead end but our reason tells us, there is no point.
there are few dark theories on christian still not reaching his peak satisfaction with the couple. adhdclassic posted one such theory. i think it's the most darkest of dark ending(for me).
as always nice well phrased thoughts. (y)
i couldnt have said it better.. dev really encompasses every emotion and outcome or possibility in the VN it is amazing from looks, to actions to words its like any ending could be a possible ending
seems like you missed the devs post on why he decided on the 20% incremental updates. the dev said that they all had a natural stop point in the story(more like a cliffhanger i think) so that every ending is like small piece of the puzzle which is again a puzzle in itself. dunno how to phrase it in a simpler manner.
 

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there are few dark theories on christian still not reaching his peak satisfaction with the couple. adhdclassic posted one such theory. i think it's the most darkest of dark ending(for me).
as always nice well phrased thoughts. (y)

seems like you missed the devs post on why he decided on the 20% incremental updates. the dev said that they all had a natural stop point in the story(more like a cliffhanger i think) so that every ending is like small piece of the puzzle which is again a puzzle in itself. dunno how to phrase it in a simpler manner.
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Thought about this too. Apart from the shock impact, many have talked about early on, I would say the game combines
1. the deep fear (and experience, therefore the life experiences folks here project onto it in a more or less controlled manner...) of being cheated on and the humiliation lying in that experiences. I would say the imagination here played out in the game has actual nightmare qualities (the scenes at the beginning are structured like that, it's the ultimate torment chamber for cucked husbands).
2. but at the same time the game offers reasons and explanations for that cheating. It opens up a space of plausible (not really imo) deniability on the side of the wife about her real intentions and her acutal free will (and many discussions here are around exactly that, some are willing to give the wife the benefit of the doubt). So we can't just brush it off with clear moral dualities of right and wrong. The hurt we feel (for the MC) can''t transalte 1 to 1 into the righteous anger of the husband who simply suffers under a frivolous wife on a drunken evening or lusting for bigger cocks. So the hurt doesn't find an easy and instant relief in moral outrage (my outrage lies deeper, not on a moral, but on an existential level so to speak). It gets pent up.
3. Like every good story it creates a scenario in which there is no good "solution" or ending whatsoever. We are put into the position of the husband narratively in that we constantly ask ourselves what should he do no how should he react?. And there is no adequate reaction. The deed and the damage is irreversibly done. Like in real life. Nothing he can do. It now becomes the story of three characters who live on but now it can only get worse (even the boss has already reached his peak satisfaction in breaking the couple I would say. the rest is repetition). We want to protest against thiis dead end but our reason tells us, there is no point.
Dealbreaker, you said your outrage is on a more existential than moral level. Could you elaborate on that? Sounds interesting, but I am not quite clear on what you mean.
 

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Dealbreaker, you said your outrage is on a more existential than moral level. Could you elaborate on that? Sounds interesting, but I am not quite clear on what you mean.
I have to think a bit more about that in order to answer as concise as possible in the coming days. I totally agree that it is by no means clear enough as it stands there. And your thoughts on that could be as good as mine of course. But this shift seemed necessery to me, intuitively.
 
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