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just a side note - I think that at night when Chris calls Viv - he is in bed with Addison in the guest room which Hutch visits when he checks if the room is indeed cluttered
 

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just a side note - I think that at night when Chris calls Viv - he is in bed with Addison in the guest room which Hutch visits when he checks if the room is indeed cluttered
Kinda crazy to be fucking his own niece but would anyone really be surprised?
 

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just a side note - I think that at night when Chris calls Viv - he is in bed with Addison in the guest room which Hutch visits when he checks if the room is indeed cluttered
Regardless of who it is (the Addison theory is one of the main game theories that's been discussed in the forum so far), why do you think it's the guest room? I haven't checked, so are there visual clues that point you to that, because otherwise it would be really odd for Christian to be at his own house but not in his own bed?
 

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Regardless of who it is (the Addison theory is one of the main game theories that's been discussed in the forum so far), why do you think it's the guest room? I haven't checked, so are there visual clues that point you to that, because otherwise it would be really odd for Christian to be at his own house but not in his own bed?
As in that she kills him or that they are banging
 

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Regardless of who it is (the Addison theory is one of the main game theories that's been discussed in the forum so far), why do you think it's the guest room? I haven't checked, so are there visual clues that point you to that, because otherwise it would be really odd for Christian to be at his own house but not in his own bed?
It's Chrsitian's bedroom
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Also what way do we think any future sex between hutch and Vivian is gonna play out , I think it's going to go one of three ways

1, they have sex as normal and potentially hutch ups his game who knows but essentially he just goes about it as if nothings happened.

2, they have sex as normal but hutch is caught in an internal battle where the thought of touching Vivian and having sex with her while this happens repluses him which causes his anger to eventually boil over then it's all to play for who knows what might happen

3, hutch is up front with Vivian that they will not have sex or even be intimate in any form while this is happening as the thought of touching her after she's been with him makes him sick and repluses him , essentially saying to her while this happens you are not my wife your just someone I happen to live with , maybe they even go to separate beds it hits a point that he can't even share a bed with her and he stays in sawyers room , could work either way for her leaving hutch or be the wake up call to come back to him.

But I would say if Vivian bangs Christian in her and hutch's bed it's game over it's time to move on hutch you just don't come back from that , hence why I'm hoping he sets more rules/boundaries to the open marriage
 

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Regardless of who it is (the Addison theory is one of the main game theories that's been discussed in the forum so far), why do you think it's the guest room? I haven't checked, so are there visual clues that point you to that, because otherwise it would be really odd for Christian to be at his own house but not in his own bed?
I was thinking about it yesterday - while checking if "purple night" is in the new location (and I checked all the rooms we knew again), I noticed that the guest room (bed) is very similar to the one in this scene (night phone). I assume that Addi stays with her uncle - when he is free ;) and she's sleeping in this room - I think even the blanket was "open" when Hutch checked it out. Of course it's possible that both beds are the same ;)

ps. thx Gattsu - unfortunately I don't have this game at work ;)
 
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Also I think someone mentioned this before with Christian I don't think he has any plans or wants there marriage to end I think the way he sees it is like a child playing with a toy you had no interest in but he only wants Vivian because she's with hutch so someone else playing with the toy you didn't want makes you want it situation, I'd say if hutch is out of the picture he would lose all interest
 

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maybe not all of it - he notices in the toilet that she has talent, but the note of extra excitement will definitely disappear - and that will be the moment to release Vivian into circulation ;)

ps. I think that when Dimao releases the last part of the Big Apple, a large part of the local observers will come to MHB - especially since there are also some cool observations and analyses there
 

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maybe not all of it - he notices in the toilet that she has talent, but the note of extra excitement will definitely disappear - and that will be the moment to release Vivian into circulation ;)
I don't think he will have an issue sharing her , but I don't think Vivian being Vivian is the thing that Christian wants or likes about her , the way I see it is because she is married and meant to be unobtainable that's what makes him want her , I genuinely don't think he cares about her and that it's a he wants something/ normally shouldn't have situation, it's a bit like when you where young and your parents told you not to do something it only made you want to do it more

I had mentioned it before but I don't see Christian being able to care about or love someone that isn't himself
 
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I don't think he will have an issue sharing her , but I don't think Vivian being Vivian is the thing that Christian wants or likes about her , the way I see it is because she is married and meant to be unobtainable that's what makes him want her , I genuinely don't think he cares about her and that it's a he wants something/ normally shouldn't have situation, it's a bit like when you where young and your parents told you not to do something it only made you want to do it more
She's his plaything for the moment as he can teach/train her like he mostly did it with other women.
She sends her out to tease others/clients, then he fucks her in public places, takes her anal virginity and finally releases her to the world...
 
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She's his plaything for the moment as he can teach/train her like he mostly did it with other women.
She sends her out to tease others/clients, then he fucks her in public places, takes her anal virginity and finally releases her to the world...
I agree with certain points I hope not about the anal virginity as Ive always hated seeing certain virginitys being taken by the lover rather than the partner in NTR game I get why it happens it's just not for me

But I would say if Christian does pop her anal cherry it's game over like at that stage she cares so little about hutch that she would rather let Christian do it first rather than her husband of 22 years popping her cherry with Christian doing anal with her sometime after that

I actually think if you give up a certain virginity and one that your husband desperately wants to do to your lover over the husband I actually think that is worse than the actual act of cheating itself
 
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I agree with certain points I hope not about the anal virginity as Ive always hated seeing certain virginitys being taken by the lover rather than the partner in NTR game I get why it happens it's just not for me

But I would say if Christian does pop her anal cherry it's game over like at that stage she cares so little about hutch that she would rather let Christian do it first rather than her husband of 22 years popping her cherry with Christian doing anal with her sometime after that

I actually think if you give up a certain virginity and one that your husband desperately wants to do to your lover over the husband I actually think that is worse than the actual act of cheating itself
Well she did offer it to Huutch at an unfortunate time for him.
But for the sake of their marriage he should man up and begin to reclaim his wife and also cherrish her pop.


-I know it's Hutch but as long as he doesn't come out of his shell, it's Huutch for me-
 
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I think that men attach much greater importance to virginity than women. ;)
Not even that I personally think it's a bigger act of betrayal overall it's basically I couldn't give a fuck about your wants or needs fuck them , and especially with this going down the open marriage it would hit harder, if it was just standard cheating and the husband didn't know about the cheating in the first place then it is what it is but I think with it being an open marriage it makes a massive difference and if it happened I would say you don't come back from that

It's kinda like while the marriage is open and Vivian fucks hutch's dad if he's alive but we will say for the sake of this he is

Doesn't matter that the marriage is open she still fucked your dad you'll never come back from that no matter how much you work on it

So my point is it's a wrong that can never be made right there will always be resentment,anger etc around it essentially making it impossible to move past
 

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Not even that I personally think it's a bigger act of betrayal overall it's basically I couldn't give a fuck about your wants or needs fuck them , and especially with this going down the open marriage it would hit harder, if it was just standard cheating and the husband didn't know about the cheating in the first place then it is what it is but I think with it being an open marriage it makes a massive difference and if it happened I would say you don't come back from that

It's kinda like while the marriage is open and Vivian fucks hutch's dad if he's alive but we will say for the sake of this he is

Doesn't matter that the marriage is open she still fucked your dad you'll never come back from that no matter how much you work on it

So my point is it's a wrong that can never be made right there will always be resentment,anger etc around it essentially making it impossible to move past
There you have darkness...hopefully for you DEV won't implement Huutch's dad!
 
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Not even that I personally think it's a bigger act of betrayal overall it's basically I couldn't give a fuck about your wants or needs fuck them , and especially with this going down the open marriage it would hit harder, if it was just standard cheating and the husband didn't know about the cheating in the first place then it is what it is but I think with it being an open marriage it makes a massive difference and if it happened I would say you don't come back from that
this is my observation, it is simply more important for us(man) than for women
we attach more importance to it, we give it additional meaning ;)

first man on Everest , on the Moon , in Vivian ass ...
 
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There you have darkness...hopefully for you DEV won't integrate Huutch's dad!
It wouldn't bother me either way but I'm more just saying those two situations regardless of how open the marriage they are the point of no return

I currently rooting for hutch to Rob Christian and cripple his company and go off into the sunset regardless of Vivian is part of that or not haha
 

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I also believe that Hutch has already made the first moves in the area where he feels strong (work, numbers) and in retaliation he will attack Chris's company - but he needs time for this and he will have to endure Chris/Viv's insolence
 

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As in that she kills him or that they are banging
In terms of the theory, it's that she is the one in bed when Christian calls Vivian at night.
I think that men attach much greater importance to virginity than women. ;)
this is my observation, it is simply more important for us(man) than for women
we attach more importance to it, we give it additional meaning ;)

first man on Everest , on the Moon , in Vivian ass ...
Really depends on how you're looking at it. From the second post here, it seems like you're viewing it from the male side of "taking it" but that doesn't consider the female side of "having it taken" or choosing to "give it away" (or, of course, "saving it"). I'm sure you'll find it's a lot more even than you're suggesting, but in completely different ways.

Plenty of women are aware of the fascination with cherry popping that some men have, and the women may therefore place importance on it, because they know the power it gives them. There are lots of facets to what you might think is a straightforward thing.
 
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