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maybe not all of it - he notices in the toilet that she has talent, but the note of extra excitement will definitely disappear - and that will be the moment to release Vivian into circulation ;)

ps. I think that when Dimao releases the last part of the Big Apple, a large part of the local observers will come to MHB - especially since there are also some cool observations and analyses there
 

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maybe not all of it - he notices in the toilet that she has talent, but the note of extra excitement will definitely disappear - and that will be the moment to release Vivian into circulation ;)
I don't think he will have an issue sharing her , but I don't think Vivian being Vivian is the thing that Christian wants or likes about her , the way I see it is because she is married and meant to be unobtainable that's what makes him want her , I genuinely don't think he cares about her and that it's a he wants something/ normally shouldn't have situation, it's a bit like when you where young and your parents told you not to do something it only made you want to do it more

I had mentioned it before but I don't see Christian being able to care about or love someone that isn't himself
 
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I don't think he will have an issue sharing her , but I don't think Vivian being Vivian is the thing that Christian wants or likes about her , the way I see it is because she is married and meant to be unobtainable that's what makes him want her , I genuinely don't think he cares about her and that it's a he wants something/ normally shouldn't have situation, it's a bit like when you where young and your parents told you not to do something it only made you want to do it more
She's his plaything for the moment as he can teach/train her like he mostly did it with other women.
She sends her out to tease others/clients, then he fucks her in public places, takes her anal virginity and finally releases her to the world...
 
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She's his plaything for the moment as he can teach/train her like he mostly did it with other women.
She sends her out to tease others/clients, then he fucks her in public places, takes her anal virginity and finally releases her to the world...
I agree with certain points I hope not about the anal virginity as Ive always hated seeing certain virginitys being taken by the lover rather than the partner in NTR game I get why it happens it's just not for me

But I would say if Christian does pop her anal cherry it's game over like at that stage she cares so little about hutch that she would rather let Christian do it first rather than her husband of 22 years popping her cherry with Christian doing anal with her sometime after that

I actually think if you give up a certain virginity and one that your husband desperately wants to do to your lover over the husband I actually think that is worse than the actual act of cheating itself
 
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I agree with certain points I hope not about the anal virginity as Ive always hated seeing certain virginitys being taken by the lover rather than the partner in NTR game I get why it happens it's just not for me

But I would say if Christian does pop her anal cherry it's game over like at that stage she cares so little about hutch that she would rather let Christian do it first rather than her husband of 22 years popping her cherry with Christian doing anal with her sometime after that

I actually think if you give up a certain virginity and one that your husband desperately wants to do to your lover over the husband I actually think that is worse than the actual act of cheating itself
Well she did offer it to Huutch at an unfortunate time for him.
But for the sake of their marriage he should man up and begin to reclaim his wife and also cherrish her pop.


-I know it's Hutch but as long as he doesn't come out of his shell, it's Huutch for me-
 
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I think that men attach much greater importance to virginity than women. ;)
Not even that I personally think it's a bigger act of betrayal overall it's basically I couldn't give a fuck about your wants or needs fuck them , and especially with this going down the open marriage it would hit harder, if it was just standard cheating and the husband didn't know about the cheating in the first place then it is what it is but I think with it being an open marriage it makes a massive difference and if it happened I would say you don't come back from that

It's kinda like while the marriage is open and Vivian fucks hutch's dad if he's alive but we will say for the sake of this he is

Doesn't matter that the marriage is open she still fucked your dad you'll never come back from that no matter how much you work on it

So my point is it's a wrong that can never be made right there will always be resentment,anger etc around it essentially making it impossible to move past
 

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Not even that I personally think it's a bigger act of betrayal overall it's basically I couldn't give a fuck about your wants or needs fuck them , and especially with this going down the open marriage it would hit harder, if it was just standard cheating and the husband didn't know about the cheating in the first place then it is what it is but I think with it being an open marriage it makes a massive difference and if it happened I would say you don't come back from that

It's kinda like while the marriage is open and Vivian fucks hutch's dad if he's alive but we will say for the sake of this he is

Doesn't matter that the marriage is open she still fucked your dad you'll never come back from that no matter how much you work on it

So my point is it's a wrong that can never be made right there will always be resentment,anger etc around it essentially making it impossible to move past
There you have darkness...hopefully for you DEV won't implement Huutch's dad!
 
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Not even that I personally think it's a bigger act of betrayal overall it's basically I couldn't give a fuck about your wants or needs fuck them , and especially with this going down the open marriage it would hit harder, if it was just standard cheating and the husband didn't know about the cheating in the first place then it is what it is but I think with it being an open marriage it makes a massive difference and if it happened I would say you don't come back from that
this is my observation, it is simply more important for us(man) than for women
we attach more importance to it, we give it additional meaning ;)

first man on Everest , on the Moon , in Vivian ass ...
 
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There you have darkness...hopefully for you DEV won't integrate Huutch's dad!
It wouldn't bother me either way but I'm more just saying those two situations regardless of how open the marriage they are the point of no return

I currently rooting for hutch to Rob Christian and cripple his company and go off into the sunset regardless of Vivian is part of that or not haha
 

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I also believe that Hutch has already made the first moves in the area where he feels strong (work, numbers) and in retaliation he will attack Chris's company - but he needs time for this and he will have to endure Chris/Viv's insolence
 

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As in that she kills him or that they are banging
In terms of the theory, it's that she is the one in bed when Christian calls Vivian at night.
I think that men attach much greater importance to virginity than women. ;)
this is my observation, it is simply more important for us(man) than for women
we attach more importance to it, we give it additional meaning ;)

first man on Everest , on the Moon , in Vivian ass ...
Really depends on how you're looking at it. From the second post here, it seems like you're viewing it from the male side of "taking it" but that doesn't consider the female side of "having it taken" or choosing to "give it away" (or, of course, "saving it"). I'm sure you'll find it's a lot more even than you're suggesting, but in completely different ways.

Plenty of women are aware of the fascination with cherry popping that some men have, and the women may therefore place importance on it, because they know the power it gives them. There are lots of facets to what you might think is a straightforward thing.
 

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It wouldn't bother me either way but I'm more just saying those two situations regardless of how open the marriage they are the point of no return

I currently rooting for hutch to Rob Christian and cripple his company and go off into the sunset regardless of Vivian is part of that or not haha
I also think if they bang in hutch's bed that also one of those situations of no return in fact maybe hutch's and Vivian house in general it's a don't shit where you eat situation
 
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I respect that, it's just it all happened so quickly for both of them.
Vivian got herself into a vortex of events so that she is not in a position to free herself under her own power and he is powerless in the face of it all.

At least this impression arises in consideration of release 0.2!
Yeah Vivian got herself in the terrible position of fucking her husband's hot amazing lover boss, the poor thing! Let's do a go fund me for her? :ROFLMAO:
 

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I respect that, it's just it all happened so quickly for both of them.
Vivian got herself into a vortex of events so that she is not in a position to free herself under her own power and he is powerless in the face of it all.

At least this impression arises in consideration of release 0.2!
I still think there was a letter or note in the dress box offering his job for sex with her , you can see as they go to leave and in the car journey and even up till the point before they bang , she's fighting with herself for the decision she's made in her mind almost fighting her self with it

Tho the bedroom scene was over the top personally talk about kicking a man when he's down jesus that was a lot personally the garden scene on its own would of been fine
 
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I still think there was a letter or note in the dress box offering his job for sex with her , you can see as they go to leave and in the car journey and even up till the point before they bang , she's fighting with herself for the decision she's made in her mind almost fighting her self with it

Tho the bedroom scene was over the top personally talk about kicking a man when he's down jesus that was a lot personally the garden scene on its own would of been fine
The only letter that came with the dress box was the message "Can't wait to see you tonight".
Part of Christian's game plan. Telling Vivian if you don't show up the dinner is cancelled and ordering Huutch afterwards to come alone to the dinner.
Vivian still mesmerized with regard to her meeting with Christian and the stolen kiss can't wait to show herself off to him, well knowing she's playing with fire.
 

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Well she's not enjoying it yet to the fullest...she still has to process in order to finally be able to devote herself fully to it.
She enjoys it at the time, it's just the guilt after of just how much she enjoyed it that she struggles with.
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Now that Hutch has pretty much given her his consent to fuck Christian whever she wants, that should take away part of the guilt. She suggests moving away together, Hutch is the one who suggests the alternative, now he has to deal with the consequences. Fuck around and find out, quite literally!
 
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She enjoys it at the time, it's just the guilt after of just how much she enjoyed it that she struggles with.
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Now that Hutch has pretty much given her his consent to fuck Christian whever she wants that should take away part of the guilt. She suggests moving away together, Hutch is the one who suggests the alternative, now he has to deal with the consequences. Fuck around and find out, quite literally!
Exactly, now she doesn't need to wash away the guilt and shame she feels while taking a shower afterwards or texting to Huutch while in the middle of something.
She can now relax while showering and even remind herself of the beautiful encounters...and text or call Huutch later.
 

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She enjoys it at the time, it's just the guilt after of just how much she enjoyed it that she struggles with.
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Now that Hutch has pretty much given her his consent to fuck Christian whever she wants that should take away part of the guilt. She suggests moving away together, Hutch is the one who suggests the alternative, now he has to deal with the consequences. Fuck around and find out, quite literally!
Yeah I wasn't sold on the either I wanted him to at least show more emotion make her feel more guilty maybe even plant the idea of I don't know what this means for us I need to think about it but if you need to do this while I think about things so I can keep my job so be it , but instead he danced around the whole matter to address it then opened the marriage not even so much as a what the fuck where you thinking when you started this or when she went to see the boss the first time even tho he said not too

I firmly believe Vivian is at fault for it all , I also find that she does hutch no favours as I think she emasculates him alot of the time either willingly or unwillingly like those stages where she's like I need to hear you say it annoyed the fuck out of me
 
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