Also I really liked number 3 as well but only if it's done the way I've put it or something similar as I want him to put her in her place and be like look what you've done this is all because of you , really hit her with the guilt as at the moment she's got away easy like she needs to know her place now since she's disobedient hahaI hope its a number 3 type scenario. That would make most sense for Hutch as we see him so far in the game. Things could change, but hopefully he stay strong on the no touching while she is fucking others.
Well it looked like he took her "deep throat" virginity. Seams like he was the first to tickle her tonsils with a dick. She did mention that she didn't want his big dick anywhere near her butt hole, so there is still hope that Hutch gets to pop the chocolate cherry.
The concept of reclaiming always annoys the hell out of me. She is not an object to get back from somebody else. There is no reclaiming, that's just some lame mental gymnastics to try and your mind at ease after the dirty deeds have been done.
"I just fuck some other dude, now come reclaim what is yours"... Fuck that shit
Nice ending. May I suggest a little extra spice.... After Hutch cuts off Christian's genitals (balls included), he invites Vivian to a special dinner, with a special dish he has prepared, so they can reconnect. As they are both sitting at the dinner table, Hutch asks Vivian if she is enjoying her meal. She seams to like it. Hutch then asks her if it tastes familiar. She isn't sure. He asks if she is sure informing her that she has tasted the dish before, but perhaps not as he has prepared it.
She asks what it is called. Hutch replies with "Les organes génitaux du patron". Vivian thinks for a sec, and uses her basic knowledge of french to translate it as "Boss's genitals". Hutch laughs at her, "see i told you that you have tasted this before".
Vivian goes all white and nauseous as she realizes that she is eating Christian's dick and balls.
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I've said it before, but i say it again... I hope Vivian does not become a free for all whore that starts fucking every other man in the game. it would cheaper emotional tug. The story is king here, too much meaningless sex with multiple others will harm the story.
If there is to be a gang bang, let it be with Vivian's corpse, that would be different and dark
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Also slight side note for an ending if hutch takes her back and Vivian thinks all is well and hutch is like I need to tell you that you will suffer the same pain that you have put me through if not worse , ever tear I shed every time you broke my heart and lied to me you will experience all of it mark my words it may not happen today or in a month or in a year but it will happen trust me .... Then bam black screen and sets it up for a follow up game
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I think the poster above touched on the most likely scenario. Vivian is forced into some compromising situation with one of the twins - it could even be something relatively harmless - but it is recorded and they use that as blackmail. You do X Or we show your son this video. Again, Vivian is faced with a difficult decision, but given her fears regarding Hutch etc she will agree.
I think it might be more simple than that potentially an overheard phone call between her and Christian maybe
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Perhaps, but they would need concrete evidence. Regardless of the situation with Christian, I do not think Vivian will so easily be used. She is prone to manipulation and will do whatever it takes to maintain the illusion of a normal marriage for her son. That’s the leverage. Maybe her character development will go into full nympho mode, but I think that unlikely. The Dev is to sophisticated a story teller to fall into that trope. More realistically, she will protest and resent her predicament, but then - again- her body will betray her. Who knows, the twins may be just a feint like the mechanic. We shall see…
Interesting I agree with some but I find Vivian to be very naive in aspects and easy to manipulate given the fact she didn't even realise the first test Christian wasn't for her it was for hutch
To the extent it baffles me that she is a teacher as I think she is fucking stupid haha
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Well, being a teacher doesn’t necessarily mean emotional intelligence or even above average intellect. It means you are, hopefully, proficient in your subject matter and can convey information effectively. I’ve known many an Education Major dumb as a box of rocks, but still graduated.
True at a push I would say she is somewhat book smart , but lacks common sense and stupid in any other aspect, but I didn't find her to be portrayed as intelligent at all , I also feel that she thinks she is a bit of a mastermind with plans schemes etc and she is far from that
But one thing I would definitely like to see happen is that Vivian develops some aspect of willpower/self control as it is non existent at the moment , legit he interactions with Christian largely go like this
Christian-lets have sex
Vivian-no I can't it's a one time thing my husband
Christian- awk go on you know you want too
Vivian - I said no don't make me leave
Christian- you know you want to tho
Vivian- ok but only for a little bit but I won't like it
Proceeds to ride him into battle as if her life depends on it and absolutely loves it , so I would like to see her actually put her foot down and actually stick to it
I also hope it doesn't become that he uses telling hutch what they have been up to as blackmail to get her to do whatever he wants or that will become old real fast
Christian-lets have sex
Vivian-no I can't it's a one time thing my husband
Christian- awk go on you know you want too
Vivian - I said no don't make me leave
Christian- you know you want to tho
Vivian- ok but only for a little bit but I won't like it
Proceeds to ride him into battle as if her life depends on it and absolutely loves it , so I would like to see her actually put her foot down and actually stick to it
I also hope it doesn't become that he uses telling hutch what they have been up to as blackmail to get her to do whatever he wants or that will become old real fast
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My apologies I didn't mean to be harsh or anything so let me explain.
I know you didn't attack the NTR genre or the game or anything what I am saying simply is if you think this game scenario cant happen in the real world then you are simply naive.
There are hundreds and hundreds of very weak personalities men around the world whose wives wear the pants around the house and some of them can't even look in their wives' eyes when they order them around.
Those same men could see affair messages on their wives' phones and they will choose not to confront them hell they could hear from friends they spent the night at some guy's place and they will still ignore to confront because they have their reason as they think of their kids or how he may lose half of his stuff or whatever but they choose not to face problems.
What I was saying is that whatever you think is weird and cannot be happening did happen to some guy somewhere else, but you just didn't see it with your eyes or hear about it, and that doesn't mean it can't be happening.
Take this game as it is and enjoy it for what it offers.
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There are also many non-weak men who love their wife so much they will dwell in ignorance to keep her happy. You can have two very strong willed individuals, but one may choose to live in an alternate universe just to keep the peace. Most humans are very complex. We tend to distill them into easily defined categories “weak” “bitch” “cuck” etc when the reality is infinitely more muddled.
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seems to me that you are not viewing the setup for the backyard event which tony posted being the first 1st event and the ending being the 2nd. and to make the 1st event happen(the backyard) the series of events which led to it are vital which almost all seemed to have glossed over. vivian going to the office and at first glance of the boss becomes a teenage girl in love. the kiss on the lips then on the cheek shows that christian has figured out he can seduce vivian. now he just has to figure out what will hutch do when he fucks vivians.
christian later tells hutch that vivian doesn't need to come for dinner so that he can know who is the dominant one in the couples marriage. and sending vivian the dress is an indirect form of reinforcing his statement in the morning saying if vivian doesnt come the dinner is of. vivian understood that she will have to hurt hutch in order to keep the job or something similar is going on in vivian head as the couple get ready and go to dinner in the car (these conversations are all vivian trying to rationalize she is doing this for the family/marriage/job and not consulting with hutch about what she did in the morning meeting the boss without telling hutch). when christian kisses vivian on the lips and says im glad she is the one wearing the pants that when vivian realizes she is the one being tested not hutch and still doesnt think adding 1+1=2 but 0. before vivian goes to the back yard she cries knowing she will have to fuck the boss or thinks that's the only way to let hutch keep hutch's job. so not note in the box the christian sent to vivian ... it's all clearly laid out for the reader in a nice red string.
i wasn't explaining the theory, i already posted this possible event with the twins a week or so earlier. you and some others explaining what will happen in the event or what might is different from me just saying a future event is possible. to be more clear we know for a fact there is tags for group sex ... which can be grouped with the twins and vivian. i not trying to make sense of how they will end up together .... i'm just stating that there is a event in the future with the twins.
we already know this happened in the bathroom and look at how it ended ... not think there will be any redeeming qualities for vivian in the future as those will make the story not dark. i have tried all kinds of logic to make vivians actions not look like a total disaster, there is only one situation where part of the blame can be diverted to hutch its when hutch seem the cheaters/lovers(at the end of the update) in the backyard. other than that there is no situation in the update where vivian's actions can be redeemed ... in my view.
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Again, quick correction to say this is the other way around. She thought she was the one being tested, but once this happened at Christian's, she realises that it was actually Hutch being tested.
Same here. For all that anyone might have to say about Hutch being weak or not dominant enough (etc.), I think what he got right is that this started with Vivian, and if it's going to stop, it ultimately will have to end with Vivian. Sure, Hutch could have reacted differently, angrily, and said it was all over, or even had an extreme violent reaction, but he picked up on his wife becoming motivated to do it more than just to save them from dire financial circumstances. That was the initial reason she was motivated to act, but she came to enjoy the experience more than she was willing to admit to him and to herself.
At first, Vivian made the stupid move of going to speak with his boss in the morning, thinking she was going to handle the situation. Instead his boss set forth a strategy of divide and conquer, pitting husband against wife. He told Hutch to leave his wife at home after he had told her she better be there and sent her a dress to wear. This sowed conflict between them, and when she showed up having "won the battle" and was still of a mind that she had to handle the situation (while having experienced more of an initial attraction to his boss that she was willing to admit), she played right into his trap.
On the drive to his home, Hutch repeatedly tried to warn her (as he had the previous evening when she suggested the idea) about the kind of man Christian is (a charismatic womanizer), to which Vivian responded:
"I'm fully capable of handling myself if he says or does something inappropriate, okay?"
"I'm a big girl. Let me worry about me."
Then after she agreed to sleep with his boss, Vivian told Christian while they were talking in the kitchen:
"My normal self doesn't exist anymore...my normal self would never have slept with you."
Then when her and Hutch were having the talk at home, Vivian further said:
"These last few days I've felt like a ghost living outside my own body...seeing everything that was happening but unable to do anything about it."
And during that same talk at home, Hutch told her:
"Like you said, you're a big girl. I'll let you worry about you." (echoing her own words from right before she gave in)
"Do it...don't do it. It's up to you." (either she has the willpower/self-control to not do it or she altogether wants to do it)
So yes, I would like to see more of Vivian's willpower/self-control come to the forefront at some point, hopefully not too late for any hope of salvaging her marriage or herself, perhaps as she thinks more of consequences and what she's sacrificing. Is it worth becoming less and less recognizable in relation to the person she was or ideally wanted to be (her ideal self)? And even if her actions save her husband's job or family financial security, will she in effect stain her reputation and become so different compared to who she was that she can no longer be the wife she was or the woman her husband loves?
Those are some thoughts I've had about this. Maybe they will matter in the end; maybe they won't. I'm still hoping we're not going to see a total fall from grace for Vivian and utter despair for Hutch while Christian gets everything he wants and just continues to move forward, gleefully victimizing couples during a time of weakness and feeding his ego while doing it.
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Yeah I can't find any redeeming qualities in her either and in regards to hutch and the backgarden I put it down to shock on why he didn't say anything
I do wish he had been more vocal in the living room as she's not being held accountable for anything and when she was apologising during it I would of loved for him to of said are you actually sorry or are you just sorry you got caught sort of thing
Honestly could not of put that better if I tried absolutely nailed it
I find it problematic, because this is a history of suffering, from both Vivian and Hutch. Vivian suffers because she cannot control herself and Hutch because he cannot man up and confront neither Vivian nor Christian.
As DEV said, this will become even darker. I read this as a expectation that the suffering will increase. Lets wait and see and prepare some popcorn.
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ty for that. i'm just writing from what events i can recall not going to do another read of the kn until the next update. too many possible theories in my head and in this thread. again ty for the correction.
this was already posted by me a few weeks back about y its more vivian's fault than hutch when deal breaker or dark archon made a argument for vivian being the victim or something similar if i'm remembering it right. the excuse vivian makes that she is a big girl, this statement is strung along all throughout the update.
your's and chaotic justice's view of vivians trying to regain her will and self-control seems at best hopeful.. i say this even though i wish for it to happen since anyone who supports the couple having a best of the worst ending will in some way wish for vivian to do better.
having said that i don't think vivian will regain her will and self-control and say not to all that might happen in the future updates. a clear indication is the sneak peaks which shows the emotions of the characters and the body language in those images. firstly the way vivian is dressing ... it gradually becomes sluttier. the pink dress,the black dress for the party,and finally the show it all dress for the dinner at a high-end restaurant. whichever order it may be the see through dress im assuming is in the last even when it comes to the sneak peak events.
then there is the emotions in those sneak peaks which again shows vivian not being bothered by who ever is seeing her naked(most of the time), she is even happy at the restaurant with christian. and hutch's expression at seeing vivian in that dress just shows that he can't believe this is what his wife has become. hoping someone would come up with a theory to rebuke this or maybe it just becomes the actual fact of how the kn progresses.
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