It's a genuine image from the dev, however when he posted it (along with two other images) his comments were very clearly written with confusion in mind. He was having a bit of fun (IMO) saying that they "definitely weren't previews from the game... or were they?" Stuff like that. So I think it's about as likely to be from the game as it is to be a non-canon tease (I'm swinging towards non-canon tease, I think).
Yes, it wouldn't make sense right now. However, there could be scenarios where it would make sense. For example, a scenario where Hutch hooks up with Addison. And Vivian, seeking revenge, seduces Addison, and sets it all up for Hutch to see. It seems far-fetched now, but the story could lead to that at some point, and it could make sense if explained organically. Or, I don't know, something even crazier: Vivian, to keep from feeling bad, insists Hutch find an adventure (as she's already told him). And he agrees as long as Vivian participates too.
I want to clarify that I don't like any of these ideas. They're just two silly ideas that just occurred to me. But in the end, it all depends on how the story unfolds. We're still at the beginning.
If it is from the game, I think Christian's involvement would be the most likely reason. He sees there's something (even if it's only friendship) between Hutch and Addison, and he gets Addison to kiss Vivian, possibly with seduction in mind. I don't see it being something instigated by either Hutch or Vivian, but however it happens (if it does), I'm sure it will be well worked into the story, as I have faith in the dev from what I've seen so far.
It should also be considered that we don't know for sure that it's Addison. The shade of blonde looks right to me, but I've not tried looking for any indicators against renders of Addison to confirm it is her. The other woman definitely appears to be Vivian though, as there are some markers there. We don't have any other blonde (or really any other women yet) in the game to be an alternative, unless it wasn't Addison in bed with Christian, of course (which also still needs to be seen).
There are no more sexual characters in this game, only Hutch, Vivien and Christian, this is their story. Vivien will not sleep with other characters. And Hutch will not have sex with Maddison either.
This one could go either way, there's obvious opportunity for other partners for Vivian, and I would say most people are expecting it (and it would certainly be the usual path for such a game). Personally though, I am in the same place as you, I think it will be just Christian (possibly not even Hutch getting any) through the whole game.
I think we've really been foreshadowed that Vivian is going to have more sexual encounters. For example, the whole plotline about the kid who has a crush on her, and the garage owner, doesn't make much sense if Vivian doesn't end up getting fucked. Not by the kid, of course. He's probably just there to watch and get his heart broken. And maybe blackmail her later on; that's pure speculation. But what's clear is that this plot has to go somewhere, and right now, based on what we've seen, the most logical thing to think is that Vivian ends up getting fucked by the garage owner.
Absolutely the opportunities are there, as I was indicating above, but it doesn't mean it's definitely going to happen. If this were any other game, I'd probably be in the same place as you, fully expecting all those guys (the mechanic, maybe his apprentice, the twins, the basketball player, maybe others too) to have sex with Vivian at least once, but at the moment, I just don't think that's this game. Obviously I can't back that up with anything except my gut feeling, so I'll wait until the next update proves me wrong (or doesn't).
I'm not thrilled about Vivian being inseminated by a myriad of males either. But I try to judge a story by what it's telling me. Not by what I desire, not even by any comments the author might make. And if you're teasing me with sexual tension between two characters in the story, what I expect is something to happen with that. Do they have to end up in bed, no matter what? No, of course not. But that's what I, as a viewer, am going to expect from the start. And, of course, if it doesn't lead to anything at all, it will have been a waste of time.
From what I've seen so far, I have a lot of faith in the author's narrative ability. So my tendency is to think that things make sense, are coherent, and will end somewhere. If the mechanic doesn't reappear, for example, or if he only drives Vivian's car, it will be a disappointment. What I expect is that something will happen when he tests the car. I don't know if she'll end up with her legs spread on the hood of the car, but that seems most likely to me right now. Although it's not what I'd want for the story.
Chekhov's gun-priniciple: if a device is introduced in a theatre play in the first act, it has to be used at a later point. If a gun is shown in the first act, it has to be fired in the last act.
Maybe we should adapt and reformulate it here for porn: if tits and ass (or potential male partners) are shown in the first act...
From what I've seen so far, I have a lot of faith in the author's narrative ability. So my tendency is to think that things make sense, are coherent, and will end somewhere. If the mechanic doesn't reappear, for example, or if he only drives Vivian's car, it will be a disappointment.
We have to consider the possibility though that he wants to deliberately "subvert expectations" and takes pride in not doing what thousands of other games have done. Some of his statements hint at that.
Chekhov's gun-priniciple: if a device is used in a theatre play in the first act, it has to be used at a later point. If a gun is shown in the first act, it has to be fired in the last act.
Maybe we should adapt and reformulate it here for porn: if tits and ass (or potential male partners) are shown in the first act...
I meant it when I said WOW before... this is the energizer bunny of threads. I am not a professional writer. I don't even consider myself an amateur writer. As stated before I wanted to write a story for myself and so I sat down with a known story arc and basic character motivations and started writing. I simply tried to put myself in the shoes of each character and write from their mindset when they spoke or acted. What I crapped out turned out better than I hoped. I wish I could say I meticulously planned out every detail discussed here, but the fact is the nuanced events and dialogs that are talked about here mostly happened organically. Just evolving into what it is over time as I wrote, added, rewrote and evolved the script into what it is today. I never set out specifically to add X here so that Y happens there. It wasn't until seeing you guys starting to analyze it that I started to appreciate my own creation. Maybe that comes off as conceited and I'm sure some would argue I write worse than a retarded monkey, but what I mean to say is - thank you. Thank you for making me feel good about my story. Thank you for making me feel good about my dark and depressing story that is going to get much worse.
Chapter vs Release vs Version
For now I will try to stick to calling these by version number (0.2,0.4,etc). I haven't decided if I will publish as a stand alone game, in which case I'll call them chapters, or as a complete (to date) game. The only thing stopping me from releasing a stand alone update is that every broken up game I've ever seen here is a confusing mess of naming conventions, groupings hidden under spoiler tags, and other nonsensical formatting. I would like to think calling them Chaper 1, Chapter 2, along with an in game title page stating 'hey this is chapter 2, go download chapter 1 if you haven't' would work... but I'm not so sure. I'm all about eye candy and I really... really... don't want to compress my game. v0.2 has over 600MB just in animations. That could be 2GB by then end of the game, plus 20k renders, and trying to compress than into 10GB or maybe even 5gb file? Anyway, still thinking about the best solution.
Version 0.4
It's on track for a mid to late May release as originally planned. I've got 2k renders done with probably about another 1k to go, not including the sexy scenes which still need animating. Compared to v0.2, it looks like total play time will be less than the first one. v0.2 had 6 games days but only 5 with significant content and 5k of images. v0.4 is 6 and 4 with 3k(probably) images. I could include more game days to match the size of v0.2 but this will end at a natural break point. As mentioned this is a Vivian heavy update with the next one(v0.6) picking up with a lot more Hutch content right from the start. v0.4 will answer some questions and develop the story, but v0.6 is where the pain begins.
Porn Logic
I had a really long rant about this but I scratched it and I'll simply say this: It's a story. All stories are unrealistic to a degree but that's what makes it entertaining. I feel my 'leaps of faith' are easier to swallow than most Hollywood movies. 'Pitch meeting' and 'The Critical Thinker' on YT show just how shitty Hollywood is. But they entertain nonetheless.
Just to speak to this for a moment - YES. That is the short answer to your questions. It's up to you to see WHAT he does then decide for yourself WHY he did it. This thread is a couple hundred pages of people answering that. But to expand on this just a little, despite her screen time, I do not consider Vivian to be the main character. Hutch does not get an inner monologue on purpose. I think v0.6 is a much more interesting part of the story and I think is what most of you really want. We'll get there in time. The good news is that about of quarter of that is already done and being Hutch focused, it's easier to render. The bad news is, after this update, I will need to slow down a little. I'm rushing to get this one done to sort of 'cement' the story, and, as a non initial release, get more attention from people holding off. I almost never download initial releases as they typically have little content and often quickly abandoned. I suspect there are plenty others like me.
Again, thank you to everyone.
No sneak peaks but I'll include just some old eye candy renders I've done in the past.
This one I'm particularly proud of. I know most of you don't use Daz but I made this without any post work. It was one render from Daz using mirrors. It was inspired but the music video Late Night Feelins by Mark Ronson.
Guys you are looking at this too literally, obviously the hint here is...
Red car = Red transportation.
Transportation almost sounds like Transformation.
Wifey's Red transformation means she will dye her hair Red!
You might notice that's Christian's house. But it doesn't mean the boss, it means wifey will become Christian in a religious sense!
Notice the Heel? More like Kneel, as in kneel in prayer!
You see the bright lights forming kind of a circle in the window? What has a shape like circle? A Halo! Coincidence? No, just a genius observation.
And last but not least, she's allegedly wearing Fishnets, but actually it's a metaphor of how we all get caught in the net of deceit like bunch of fishes when the REAL meaning of this preview is the message I just decoded above.
True and Real.
Sorry, I wanted to try my hand at wild theories that are sometimes shared here
We have to consider the possibility though that he wants to deliberately "subvert expectations" and takes pride in not doing what thousands of other games have done. Some of his statements hint at that.
True. But as you said, if you're not going to fire Chekhov's gun (a rifle, actually. Chekhov spoke of a rifle. But for some reason it became gun in popular culture), don't show it in the first scene. There's a very simple explanation for this: Things that aren't useful to the story are superfluous. All they do is waste the reader's time.
It's also true that instead of a Chekhov's gun, it could be a Red Herring. But then the author has to be very careful to ensure that the distraction effect also makes sense. If Vivian doesn't end up getting fucked by the mechanic, and it's not done well, it would be more of a disappointment than a surprise. Expectation management is a hot topic in a work, and it can easily ruin it.
True. But as you said, if you're not going to fire Chekhov's gun (a rifle, actually. Chekhov spoke of a rifle. But for some reason it became gun in popular culture), don't show it in the first scene. There's a very simple explanation for this: Things that aren't useful to the story are superfluous. All they do is waste the reader's time.
It's also true that instead of a Chekhov's gun, it could be a Red Herring. But then the author has to be very careful to ensure that the distraction effect also makes sense. If Vivian doesn't end up getting fucked by the mechanic, and it's not done well, it would be more of a disappointment than a surprise. Expectation management is a hot topic in a work, and it can easily ruin it.
Alright, but it's no coincidence, that those rules either belong to classical drama or to the classical period of the movie industry, dominated by economic principles (not meaning money but also as an aesthetic and psychological paradigm: having a tight grip on an audience and using your tools carefully). Postmodern approaches to storytelling have less problems with threads going nowhere. Tarantino got already mentioned in the thread in another context.
(I know, rifle, but as a non-native speaker, I imagine a rifle when saying gun in contrast to a pistol)
Vivien is already fucked up for cheating on Hutch and humiliating him. And their marriage is shaky, Hutch is the sufferer and he is the main character in this KN. Vivien will not have sex with other characters, this KN is only about 3 people, not about the other dicks, that's why it's called My Husband's Boss. It's about how Christian humiliates and ruins a 22-year marriage and how Hutch reacts to this, what he will do or maybe not do, we can't know yet, only SC Sztori knows what the end will be.
But as SC Sztori wrote many pages back in the scene in the restroom, now Hutch can't go there to question Vivien and Christian and he can't hit Christian, but Hutch will still have the opportunity to do so. This KN is a Hutch-centric game.
With hutch opening the marriage/ "giving Vivian the freedom to do what she needs" wasn't that only on the premise that it only involved Christian directly?
Now it could go either way to if she sleeps with other characters but surely if she just sleeps with everyone that is most definitely the final nail in the coffin of there marriage and surely Vivian would know this regardless of the freedom hutch has given
As far as hutch is concerned it's only Christian he obviously doesn't know about the other flirting with different characters and I wouldn't see him agreeing to such freedom that allows her to bang anyone and anything
With hutch opening the marriage/ "giving Vivian the freedom to do what she needs" wasn't the only on the premise that it only involved Christian directly?
Now it could go either way to if she sleeps with other characters but surely if she just sleeps with everyone that is most definitely the final nail in the coffin of there marriage and surely Vivian would know this regardless of the freedom hutch has given
As far as hutch is concerned it's only Christian he obviously doesn't know about the other flirting with different characters and I wouldn't see him agreeing to such freedom that allows her to bang anyone and anything
This is one of the good points, IMO, in terms of everything still being up in the air. The way I read the "opening of the marriage", Hutch said it just with Christian in mind. However, he absolutely didn't say anything to lock that in, so if the game were to go that way, Vivian could take it as an open invitation to "get it out of her system" with anyone she pleases.
Hutch: "So, I'm... open... about our relationship being a little... unconventional for a while."
Vivian: "~ To herself ~ 'Open'?!"
Hutch: "I... I don't want to know the details."
Hutch: "I'll just give you the space to... do what you feel you need to do."
Hutch: "You can have your... meetings... with him. I won't... interfere."
Vivian: "~ To herself ~ He can't possibly be saying..."
Vivian: "~ To herself ~ Did he just... open our marriage?"
Vivian: "Hutch! What you're suggesting... I mean, working with him... I..."
So Hutch hinted, by emphasising the word "open" (and also "unconventional"), but he didn't actually say that he was opening the marriage - Vivian read that from his words, but he didn't necessarily mean them that way, and he immediately went on to talk about having the meetings with Christian. She then answered regarding working with him, while only mentioning "open marriage" in her thoughts.
Obviously, that whole scene was full of coded statements, which is great for confusion and misreading of intentions, but terrible for transparency and honesty between the two of them.
This is one of the good points, IMO, in terms of everything still being up in the air. The way I read the "opening of the marriage", Hutch said it just with Christian in mind. However, he absolutely didn't say anything to lock that in, so if the game were to go that way, Vivian could take it as an open invitation to "get it out of her system" with anyone she pleases.
So Hutch hinted, by emphasising the word "open" (and also "unconventional"), but he didn't actually say that he was opening the marriage - Vivian read that from his words, but he didn't necessarily mean them that way, and he immediately went on to talk about having the meetings with Christian. She then answered regarding working with him, while only mentioning "open marriage" in her thoughts.
Obviously, that whole scene was full of coded statements, which is great for confusion and misreading of intentions, but terrible for transparency and honesty between the two of them.
So do you think by unconventional hutch was suggesting a trouple sort of situation but where he doesn't get involved and Vivian has misread it and will likely run with it
Honestly all things aside it's not going to be the thing that kills this marriage it's there god awful communication skills so many conversations they have are so cryptic and only small pieces of the actual information are only ever given so neither of them actually know how each other actually feels or what's actually going on
It feels like so much of there marriage is just built on assumptions
With hutch opening the marriage/ "giving Vivian the freedom to do what she needs" wasn't that only on the premise that it only involved Christian directly?
Now it could go either way to if she sleeps with other characters but surely if she just sleeps with everyone that is most definitely the final nail in the coffin of there marriage and surely Vivian would know this regardless of the freedom hutch has given
As far as hutch is concerned it's only Christian he obviously doesn't know about the other flirting with different characters and I wouldn't see him agreeing to such freedom that allows her to bang anyone and anything
If you could understand and interpret what Hutch said to Vivien, you wouldn't write such nonsense.
He meant the open marriage for the project and Christian for the few days until they finish it, not that from now on he can have sex with whoever he wants and as much as he wants. Moreover, the v0.4 Vivien update doesn't fit as many characters and animations, in fact, the v0.4 update will be even smaller than the v0.2 update. But the v0.6 Hutch update will be bigger because this game is about Hutch.
If you could understand and interpret what Hutch said to Vivien, you wouldn't write such nonsense.
He meant the open marriage for the project and Christian for the few days until they finish it, not that from now on he can have sex with whoever he wants and as much as he wants. Moreover, the v0.4 Vivien update doesn't fit as many characters and animations, in fact, the v0.4 update will be even smaller than the v0.2 update. But the v0.6 Hutch update will be bigger because this game is about Hutch.
So do you think by unconventional hutch was suggesting a trouple sort of situation but where he doesn't get involved and Vivian has misread it and will likely run with it
Honestly all things aside it's not going to be the thing that kills this marriage it's there god awful communication skills so many conversations they have are so cryptic and only small pieces of the actual information are only ever given so neither of them actually know how each other actually feels or what's actually going on
It feels like so much of there marriage is just built on assumptions
I would never associate the term "throuple" with it, but I think Hutch meant it one way and it's possible that Vivian could take it a different way, because the "discussion" they had about it was anything but clear.
What Hutch said could mean:
1. "I'm open about our relationship being a little unconventional for a while. I don't want to know the details, but you have your meetings and your little sex sessions with Christian, get us through this difficult period, and then in a while he'll get bored of it and we can go back to how things used to be."
Or it could mean:
2. "I'm open about our relationship being a little unconventional for a while. So go fuck Christian, go fuck whoever else you want to, just don't tell me about it, I don't want to know the details. Get through this tough time, get it out of your system, then come back to me and we'll try to move on and go back to how things used to be."
So I think Hutch meant the first one, just Christian, and I think that's how the game will play out. But if it plays out differently, Vivian could understand Hutch to have meant the second one, and think he's therefore giving her free rein to fuck anyone - the mechanic, and the twins and whoever - as long as she doesn't tell him about it. This way, actually, you'd get more of the NTR vibe, because she would be doing it thinking that her husband has given her the green light, meanwhile he would be there thinking she's just out fucking Christian and no one else.
The thing is, I can definitely see it playing out either way, and think the dev would do a good job whichever one does end up being the chosen path.
It seems obvious that Vivian will have sexual interactions with other partners - we already have a preview of this in two lesbian scenes. Chris wants to degenerate their relationship completely - which also involves introducing other partners into the business.... I won't be surprised if in the Viv-Addi situation Chris will also be in bed. We started on a high note in 0.2, so the next 4 updates won't be more versions of sex with Chris.
it will be bad and painful for Hutch... and since he's seen what he's seen...the next stages must be stronger
CHRIS's goal is to make Vivian a self-determined, fully sexually open woman (commonly called a slut), he wants to make Viv do it of her own free will and fully consciously humiliate Hutch.
only then will it have the taste of victory, control, domination of the Alpha
CHRIS's goal is to make Vivian a self-determined, fully sexually open woman (commonly called a slut), he wants to make Viv do it of her own free will and fully consciously humiliate Hutch.
I'm still not sure on this particular train of thought. For me, Christian sees Vivian as a plaything, and he obviously has a kink for using other men's wives (he talks a bit about this). What would make Christian feel better though: making Vivian fuck other men, or making other men feel jealous of him for having Vivian on his arm and maybe doing stuff (touching her, exposing her) in front of them while knowing they can't touch her?
I still think that if Vivian does have sex with someone else (e.g., the mechanic), it won't be anything to do with Christian. He unlocked the door, but she's the one who now has the key. Christian enjoys having the power over Hutch as far as Vivian goes, but I don't think we've seen any sign that it extends to humiliating Hutch in other ways, such as getting other men to fuck her. For me, whatever the reasons, and however long it lasts for, Christian wants Vivian for himself, he's not into sharing.
