zernex

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we understand that you want to make up for lost time and flood us with more lines, but the modest community gathered around the thread appreciates (I think) more complex forms of reflection. If you would be so kind as to try to assemble your thoughts into one larger post for the future, I would be extremely grateful.
Will try. But the material should justify deeper reflection and it seems reflected perspective only occurs at isolated threads of action within a more fragmentary total story. But I hear you and will reduce. Catching up but on discovery the Vivian and story is addictive. Thanks
 
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zernex

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im all for hutch getting revenge but you may want to convince the dev to do that and not the forum.. from devs comments if he plans on going darker as it progresses then i dont see where hutch comes out of this a winner.. could be wrong but just following the dev's comments.
Winning could be seen as making someone else loose.
 

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I was wondering if the car that her husband gave to Vivian doesn't serve as a representation of the marriage itself in the story. It seems to me that the car was a way for Hutch to show how much he values his wife, how the act of marriage itself is a ceremony to show how important the relationship between the two is. The car being defective at the beginning is a way of showing how the relationship is showing signs of fragility, and it breaks down just when Vivian dives into doing something behind her husband's back. When it returns "fixed", it is after Vivian has handed the car over to someone else, and after she has "fixed" the crisis in her marriage through lies and betrayal, and Hutch himself playing the role of giving the "car" to her to fix. But we know that the relationship between the two is not fixed, and is the car really fixed?
 

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With symbols in porn games I follow the rule: as simple as possible: The car is a phallus symbol. The phallus Hutch gave her as a gift (he gave it up and doesn't own it anymore) didn't function. This made her angry and frustrated. The mechanic had to lend his potency. Now she can drive it, it endures her ride as long as she needs it.
 
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Luc77

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With symbols in porn games I follow the rule: as simple as possible: The car is a phallus symbol. The phallus Hutch gave her as a gift (he gave it up and doesn't own it anymore) didn't function. The mechanic had to lend his potency. Now she can drive it, it endures her ride as long as she needs it.
i.e. you are moving towards INcest
overall interesting interprtation - but I see serious holes in it. If you see a car as a symbol of a penis, you certainly don't choose an Audi. The BMW is a real dick, but the Audi.... Audi is the woman among German cars. A German woman but a woman...
 
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i.e. you are moving towards INcest
overall interesting interprtation - but I see serious holes in it. If you see a car as a symbol of a penis, you certainly don't choose an Audi. The BMW is a real dick, but the Audi.... Audi is the woman among German cars. A German woman but a woman...
generally speaking.... most men take good care of their cars(like a woman) so dunno if audi is categoriesed as a woman(car) among women(cars)
 
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i.e. you are moving towards INcest
overall interesting interprtation - but I see serious holes in it. If you see a car as a symbol of a penis, you certainly don't choose an Audi. The BMW is a real dick, but the Audi.... Audi is the woman among German cars. A German woman but a woman...
At this point You definitely need to consider also the "Vorsprung durch Technik"-Slogan:unsure:
 
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overall interesting interprtation - but I see serious holes in it. If you see a car as a symbol of a penis, you certainly don't choose an Audi. The BMW is a real dick, but the Audi.... Audi is the woman among German cars. A German woman but a woman...
I get that. On the other side it fits Hutch. Audi has the image of being boring, rational, unsexy but solid. By the way one major advertising slogan for Audi was Vorsprung durch Technik ("advantage through technology") - which fits the metaphor again. That's what men like to believe because women tell them: you can compensate size deficits by using skill. Sex becomes labour. Again typical Hutch.
Edit: Two guys had the same idea.
 

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Wasn't 0.4 supposed to release in early May? I hope the developer is doing Okay.
Not that I've seen. I might just have missed it, but I've not seen anything remotely like a firm release date given by the dev. He said he's looking at roughly a four-month schedule, and four months after the previous (first) release would mean towards the end of May (0.2 came out Jan 23rd). He did say, however, that he would put out a status update at the start of the month (I think he might even have said the first).
 
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lolo540

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Hello SC Stories !
As we ponder the phallic symbolism of a car and whether an audi is a boy or a woman, will we be treated to a little 0.4 development update?
If we don't get any info on 0.4, I'm afraid we'll be studying the material of the garden table on which Vivian took a baobab.
 
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Luc77

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The question is whether the red Audi will be the place where Vivian will be satisfied?
 

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I mean, not that I did take it really seriously, but one question to ask with the symbolic nature of the car is: does it have any plot function, that the car is defect and that Vivian reacts to that (which is shown)? No it hasn't, as far as I can see. It is a superfluous info. So it must have a reason on a non-plot-level that the author gives us that info and scene. It could also be a means to show us more about Vivians character (angry reaction). But then why connecting that to the car? Because Hutch gifted it? This connection is objectively coincidental and has value, makes sense only on a symbolic level.
Of course one plot-function of the car defect could be to motivate the introduction of the mechanic. But that depends on how important he is going to be, and I would think also that there woud have been a more simple solution to that (she needs gas and stops at a gas station for example). It's a mixture of plot and symbolism: the mechanic is apart from his BBC a man who fixes something broken for her/ in her, something Hutch has left her with. It's like the porno plumber who is not merely a vulgar image but also a symbolic nexus of female sexual satisfaction and male problem solving skills in nonsexual areas. Vivian feels chronically unsafe because she distrusts Hutch's competence, which conincides with his sexual impotence.
 
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or this "crime" scene/place



besides, the car is a character-building element with all its adjacencies
 
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