We will know more about Vivian in the early moments of 3 chapter when she gets home and faces Hutch. Either she tells Hutch she is moving to Christians or they are in on a plan together. I am curious if we do see more setups from Christian if Vivian is pimped out again... Not sure if that would be part of 3.
don't think there will be a plan by vivian or hutch or either of them doing setup plan to get back at christian. the last scene clearly showed the vivian belongs to christian now and she accepts that. there is no more more hutch. there is a 0.00001% chance i maybe wrong but so far all progression shows vivian or hutch or both destroying themselves. so a tragedy for the protagonists.
having read your followup post it made sense
I have to disagree. The interlude with Sunshine and rain is obviously not satisfying for Vivian. She appears awkward and has to be constantly dragged - in complete contrast to her relation to the Boss, where she is eager and attentive all the time. Reason among aothers: she needs a person, a dominant character. It's a mistake (and falls for liberal propaganda) to think that Vivian's "needs" are primarily sexual. If so, that escapade with Sunshine may have helped (although not "healthy" in my opinion whatever that means). Her needs come frome deficits in her characer and personality development, a crisis, a craving for validation. Sex is just a means to achieve that. It's a liberal fallacy to conflate that.
hit the mark there with the comment DB was about to write this after reading DA's post.
Your take on the scene is similar to what I took from the scene. It's an extremely powerful scene that pretty much sets up the game going forward. In one scene, we got enough deposition to allow Vivian to understand her urges, her fetishes, her kinks etc etc are not forbidden; everybody has them, and in some cases, people happily act on them and live a normal life. On top of that. She got to experience Anal sex, a woman watching her husband have sex with another and a bit more. Its this scene that completes her fall from Grace or rather allows her to accept what she truly wants. She'd have never gone had love and cuddle sex with Christian or told him she was his without it.
vivians fall from grace??? didnt you read the conversations before about her trampstamp and he past history as a wild gal?? she was just acting the part and repressing her true nature which was take advantage by the antagonist. with or without the sunshine and rain encounter vivian was flawed as stated by others in this thread many times over. not because of the encounter but the dev is using that to show vivian she can save her marriage but as a flawed character she made the wrong choices. repeatedly since chapter 1.
And surely that's absolutely the right, healthy and normal thing to do for her. Man...
totally agree but everyone has their own experiences seems like he is relating some to real life when
Lagunavii is writing about living happy lives. not sure. what that means.
Christian is a real low life. He said he would steal Hutch wife from him ( in jest ) . But he actually ment it. I think only because she was a conquest. She means nothing to him. Somewhere I think she will find that out and either hatch her own plan to take Christian down or partner with Hutch. I actually thought Christian was not bad in the manner he had conversations with hutch. He seem to show respect for him .... But underneath wow he is a shark ! He needs to be taken out with the trash !
Vivian is a lost soul She doesn't know what to do. If what she said to Christian is true... Wow she is in for a big surprise....and it will not be a good one !
didn't want to burst your theory so sorry in advance.... if she was smart or clever(2 words the i think the can never describe vivian) she wouldn't have fallen for the escort trap in the first place... she proposed that idea to christian at the restaurant when she said the client was having marital issue... how dumb is she that she cant even ad 1+1 = 2 . and christian may have manipulated her but she did it in the end and like it. as some others explained before in this thread.. vivian is not a planer or doer... events of chapter 1 and 2 all happened because of her and she is dumb enough not to realise it. she even talks about all that she went through was for nothing in the restaurant.
there is the hutch plan theory but i don't think that will be happening as the way the story in progressing ... just the fallout which will destroy everyone from the events that occur in chapters 2, 3 and 4 is my thinking. someone posted that hutch will end himself and addison will take revenge..... that's a more likely possibility than vivian or hutch coming up with a plan.
