There are degrees of blame though, and in that regard the bulk of the blame is on Vivian (out of her and Hutch).
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Christian after playing both of the chapters again, I realize Christian wasn't an Alpha. He was a guy who had money, no morals and a massive ego, who saw an opportunity to take advantage of a situation. He has no love for Vivian money is what leads him. He has a weak woman that he sees wants to be led like a dog. He sees a tool for more profit.
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oh i agree vivian is a hoe.. a sexy hoe too god i love her so much.. but if hutchy's pimp hand is strong it would be lil hutchy dingy she is riding .. not christian's .. players play .. cucky's get cucked
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Duke, Yes he did use blackmail. But he went after Vivian right from the start. Telling Hutch he is going to seal his wife. Then, manipulates all situation's to do it .. Yes Vivian was weak in those... but again he laid all the groundwork.. then blames vivan that she can leave anytime.
Hehehe...would love to see "Hutch's pimp hand" at some point.
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i would agree . at this point i would love to see hutchy send a video to christian as christain is banging vivian of hutchy blasting in chrsitian's mom's face saying your fired biotch .. lol but that is just a dream that will never happen.
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vivian could have kept her legs closed .. sure .. hutchy could have smashed christian's face with a brick.. did they? N O E .. game on brother
High time for SC Stories to come and set everyone straight with a Masterclass of what is really going on in MHB and his thoughts behind Vivian's unraveling. No need for spoilers but just so we can have a peek into this genius's thinking, writing and production.
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Made a statement about Christian now Vivian. Vivian was a hoe when she was younger, but the question is what kinda hoe. There are hoes that just fling the pussy around. There is the hoe that goals. There are also manipulative hoes. Then there is dumb hoes who think they can be manipulative but can only do it to weak men. Its the equivalent of a guy who fucks ugly women and considers themself a player. She is the later. After playing again both chapters I can see her being mind broken not Hutch.
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i like the levels of hoedum but a hoe is a hoe . hutchy got 22 years of housewife from that sexy gorgeous hoe.. he was very lucky to get that .. now comes the unlucky part . the pain, suffering and we will watch it all unravel.
Yeah, but the hoe withheld her hoeishness from him in the bedroom; so did he really get her for 22 years?
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Adhdclassic You are right. Vivian is unstable right now. On one hand she says no more sex ..then she in manipulated into it again... and I do mean manipulated. Christian is messing with her mind at any chance he gets..
But how much of Hutch being "vanilla" is due to him acting in accord with what he thinks Vivian desires? She repeatedly denied having anal sex with him, and she even halted a passionate sexual encounter between them midway because her mom warned her about not being too sexually adventurous as a wife (essentially).
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again he is just taking advantage of a weak hoe that puts herself in the position to be manipulated .. she could have taken hutch with her in the end but didnt .. why? because she is a hoe and wants the D.. you cant manipulate someone that doesnt want to be .. that goes for hutch and vivian . they are weak and they are both going to get f'd
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i like this .. did her mom warn her before she was a hoe in her younger days or after she came home wrecked by a bunch of dudes.. to talk about there past we would need that info or else its all just guessing
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The only thing that can change things is if Vivian has been deceptive. What we see is not what it is. In other words she is allowing things to proceed this way with her own plan. I know farfetched but I am giving the DEV the benefit of the doubt that he has a bigger plan for her not counting being on her back or knees.
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That is right... Hutch on many occasions tried to step it up in the BR.. Vivian would not because of the ideals her mom set. Now ... Due to a circumstance to save Hutch job... she jumps out of the marriage bed and begins to go crazy. What is driving her crazy is Hutch is not emotionally attached to her right now. He will not touch her , or say I love you , nothing. So I think she is also seeking that in the only place she can.... Christian. Not the verbal...because she still loves Hutch... but the physical.