TonyMurray

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Funny thing is in the last of chapter 1 she offered for Hutch to have a get even fuck... He declined
I think if he had accepted it, it wouldn't have worked so well for the overall story. At the moment, at least until the upcoming "Hutch chapter", we don't entirely know what his motivations are, and what his intentions are. Just ignoring everything that had happened and having sex with Vivian at that point would have cheapened his character, and stolen much of the mystery, IMO.
 

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Ez a két frissítés vicc volt. Csak nevetni tudtam rajta, csak tippeltem, hogy a fejlesztők eladták a játékot. A humoros címke hiányzik. És még sötétebb lesz Vivienből ribanc lesz és pénzért dugni fog Hutch öngyilkos lesz, istenem :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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I think if he had accepted it, it wouldn't have worked so well for the overall story. At the moment, at least until the upcoming "Hutch chapter", we don't entirely know what his motivations are, and what his intentions are. Just ignoring everything that had happened and having sex with Vivian at that point would have cheapened his character, and stolen much of the mystery, IMO.
That offering was to let hutch sleep with some on else ... it showed she started to get her mind around it that Hutch having sex with another woman that would even things out and they could maybe go back to normal. Your right... doesn't work for the story.... but it does show Vivian thinking of Hutch having sex... wether she likes it or not.
 

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I think if he had accepted it, it wouldn't have worked so well for the overall story. At the moment, at least until the upcoming "Hutch chapter", we don't entirely know what his motivations are, and what his intentions are. Just ignoring everything that had happened and having sex with Vivian at that point would have cheapened his character, and stolen much of the mystery, IMO.
I think he’s got ED erectile dysfunction or premature ejaculate, and we will find out in next chapter that’s he’s been trying viagra, cialis but they dont work and Viv wants him to get a John Holmes penis transplant but he won’t do it
 
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My assumption - without any hard evidence of course: Sunshine and Rain weren't in the first draft and they didn't even exist before January. It's just a feeling.
 

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I think there is nothing wrong with Hutchsex drive. I think his problem was Vivian. Vivian being a ho hum no adventure in the br. I think he look at it as boring. The time she spiced it up with a sexy nightgown she said he was a tiger ! Just my thought...
 
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I think there is nothing wrong with Hutchsex drive. I think his problem was Vivian. Vivian being a ho hum no adventure in the br. I think he look at it as boring. The time she spiced it up with a sexy nightgown she said he was a tiger ! Just my thought...
if vivians gas tank was full she wouldnt be looking for another gas station to fill up at.. just saying
 
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That offering was to let hutch sleep with some on else ... it showed she started to get her mind around it that Hutch having sex with another woman that would even things out and they could maybe go back to normal. Your right... doesn't work for the story.... but it does show Vivian thinking of Hutch having sex... wether she likes it or not.
Yep, my mistake, I read it and was thinking completely the wrong thing. The answer's the same though, happily, just in a slightly different context!

As far as that offer goes though, you could tell that she didn't want to say it, or for it to happen, she was just trying everything she could think of. I do wonder if she will soften her position on that though, after the events of Ch2. Everything rests on what the conversation is that can't be done over text (and is there actually such a conversation, or was that partly at least a means of getting out of staying the night at Christian's?).
 

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Let's start with the fact that I find all the characters horrible:
Christian, a classic manipulator who, in addition to sleeping with married women, manipulates their husbands into docilely accepting him. And yes, it doesn't matter if they're his employees. He's a tyrant and acts like one.
Vivian is the typical bitch. She shows off her body even when she goes to visit her son, doesn't seem to care that her coworkers laugh at her and humiliate her in front of her, even goes along with them and talks more on the phone, flirting, when it should be with her son. She meekly accepts being a bitch at work because her MASTER demands it, and it's not like she's a submissive woman; in their marriage, she was the one who wore the pants (as Hutch reproaches her in episode 1). And not yet, but surely in future episodes, she'll start treating her husband with misery (something he richly deserves).
Hutch is a poor man, a submissive cuckold who allows himself to be humiliated by his boss, allowing him to fuck his wife in front of him without lifting a finger. All cuckolds have an excuse for being one; in his case, it's not that he wants to get fired, but rather, as Vivian suggests, he could have left, quit earlier, and started over somewhere else instead of prostituting his wife. But he chooses the path of submission, for his wife and for himself. He allows himself to be manipulated by the words of Christian, a man who treats him despotically at work and who has had no problem stealing his wife from right under his nose (who would accept "advice" from a guy like that?), but beneath all that suffering, there is nothing more than a weak man who lets his wife rule the house and now, in his marriage, a third party who not only fucks his wife but prostitutes her to clients for lucrative business deals. No sympathy for this sorry-looking loser who deserves a slap to see if it awakens his masculine side... if he ever had one.
 

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The future?
It's clear that Vivian is becoming "empowered"—like a prostitute, yes, but empowered. This means that, from now on, she will begin to despise her weak husband and take control of her life. Hutch must assume his role as a loving cuckold and allow her to freely enjoy her sexuality with everyone... except him. Because, with his permissiveness and weakness, he has begun to earn her contempt (it's almost a miracle she didn't agree to spend the night with Christian. Remember the promise she made to her husband that she would always come home at the end of the day? Bet how long it will take her to break it). Women admire determined, dominant men, not sad whiners who allow what was once theirs to be taken away from them. So the future I see is Christian using her as his "property" (which she has agreed to), Vivian whoring herself out for her master and sleeping with whoever she wants, be it Marcel, the mechanic, Brain, her son's colleagues (will the son be as submissive as the father?)... ANYONE, and the poor cuckold... well, by playing cuckold, hopefully Vivian will end up letting him eat the other people's cum dripping from her holes.
 

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if vivians gas tank was full she wouldnt be looking for another gas station to fill up at.. just saying
True Duke ... but by her own admission she kept everything vanilla in the BR with Hutch. And he did not push it to much... He did ask for anal a lot.... but no luck ... In her mind she had to cheat to explore those hidden urges.. unfortunately.
 
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Let's start with the fact that I find all the characters horrible:
Christian, a classic manipulator who, in addition to sleeping with married women, manipulates their husbands into docilely accepting him. And yes, it doesn't matter if they're his employees. He's a tyrant and acts like one.
Vivian is the typical bitch. She shows off her body even when she goes to visit her son, doesn't seem to care that her coworkers laugh at her and humiliate her in front of her, even goes along with them and talks more on the phone, flirting, when it should be with her son. She meekly accepts being a bitch at work because her MASTER demands it, and it's not like she's a submissive woman; in their marriage, she was the one who wore the pants (as Hutch reproaches her in episode 1). And not yet, but surely in future episodes, she'll start treating her husband with misery (something he richly deserves).
Hutch is a poor man, a submissive cuckold who allows himself to be humiliated by his boss, allowing him to fuck his wife in front of him without lifting a finger. All cuckolds have an excuse for being one; in his case, it's not that he wants to get fired, but rather, as Vivian suggests, he could have left, quit earlier, and started over somewhere else instead of prostituting his wife. But he chooses the path of submission, for his wife and for himself. He allows himself to be manipulated by the words of Christian, a man who treats him despotically at work and who has had no problem stealing his wife from right under his nose (who would accept "advice" from a guy like that?), but beneath all that suffering, there is nothing more than a weak man who lets his wife rule the house and now, in his marriage, a third party who not only fucks his wife but prostitutes her to clients for lucrative business deals. No sympathy for this sorry-looking loser who deserves a slap to see if it awakens his masculine side... if he ever had one.
Sorry, have I missed something? I cannot remember when Vivian's coworkers laughed at her. Was it in Chapter one?
 

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Important insight hidden in that whole mess: permission is not validation and gratification, is not perceived as such by Vivian/any woman for that matter - and therefore is not what she wants and what would ever solve the issue.
She doesn't feel more "seen" or respected or elevated or acknowledged as a person by Hutch giving her a free pass (in fact she seems irritated in the scene. More perceptive women than Vivian might even see it as growing indifference what it often indeed is). In a way is Hutch giving her permission the las and most important signal for her that he is not the man she needs, that he can never give her what she wants - and that is not sex but validation. He has made himself useless for that. Contrary to current relationship advice ("give her space", she needs it, that is respecting her freedom, let her make her own decisions etc etc) she doesn't feel more valuable or empowered or powerful by that - on the contrary she speaks of power after she gets dominated by the boss. She feels valued by someone like Christian who wants to possess her, who shows possessive interest, possessive desire. That's her measure for self-validation, if she can bring a man to that point. That is confirmed when the boss drives her home - again she is irritated and feels put aside, worthless when she gets the idea that he is not sexually interested, that he doesn't make a move.
The pursuit of freedom and the pursuit of validation clash heavily in Vivian and in the whole "do what you want" mindset. She is totally prepared to sacrifice the former for the latter.
One aspect I liked most in the first chapter was that I thought here we have a porn story embedded in a world described with a distinct sensitivity for socio-economic contexts and vibes. The fragile situation of a middle class couple in the corporate environment keeping up with the Joneses feeling constantly under stress and endangered. This background opened up a perspective which I strongly miss in other porn: the connection between material survival and sex and sexual arousal and its different handling by the two genders. Far from being dry and statistical this connection has something raw and grounding. My interpretation of Vivian drew from that a lot. I wanted a "realistic" type of porn.
After chapter 2 maybe that impression came more from the eye of the observer I must say. Here we have much more what we encounter in other porn games: the more extreme porn fantasies are located in a somewhat affluent world, artificial and plastic - take Sunshine and Rain: expensive loft, no worries, he looks like in the first half of his twenties (so where does the money come from?), faceless model-like boyfriend she can switch on and off how she likes it and use as a dildo on other women. Expensive looking cars (at least from a European perspective) even with Marcel. The dirtier the acts, the cleaner the surroundings - the lube is happily flavoured. While Hutch is grinding with numbers, the "business" Vivian and the boss are handling is done by quickly looking up gossip on a handy while ordering overpriced wine. Here it feels more like Vivians "sexual awakening" coincides with her being let into the fairy tale world beyond the material. What about social pressure? The neighbours seeing her haveing sex? Others already mentioned her giving her number to Marcel - unreal. There is no fear or worry or nervousness anymore. To sum up: it feels as if we transitioned to a more artificial environment, more porn logic, less socio-economic logic.
i would have supported this viewpoint ....thats was before i read the last scene with christian in chapter 2. it's not a matter of validation or freedom but just get sex. there is recurring theme in chapter 2. vivian wants sex not validation. validation can be gained in various ways but for vivian the sex she wants is only from christian and she is willing to do anything to get that.

this is shown by her making up a excuse to have sex on her drive home after the restaurant. or going out to see if it was her or christian. it's clear that vivian is the cause of the problem and christian is the catalyst that started the chain reaction. by the end of chapter 2 is clear the she will do anything to have sex with christian.

the whole sunshine and rain event that the dev setup for the us the readers is to make it clear that its not validation but sexual satisfaction. that's my interpretation at least.
We'll see.... As is anything in the game... it is all a guess.
or according to the dev..... all that we see is but a dream within a dream ;)
When she goes home in chapter 3 is key . It will define Vivian and begin to do that for Hutch. I hope she comes home and tell Hutch the plan is working and we have him where we want him... on the phase 2 ...
there is no turning back at this point the way chapter 2 ended .... but SC Stories did say there is a plot twist. there is no need for defining vivian anymore.... she has been defiled and defined clearly by the door man in chapter 2. even strangers can tell she is a whore for hire now.

i really wish your theory would be true but so far there has been no hints at all as to such a plan. the dev did say it gets dark for hutch so most probably vivian is gonna leave hutch in chapter 3 or 4 ..... as hutch is barely controlling his anger for his situation with his whore for hire wife of 22 years.:LOL:

SC Stories also mentioned that chapter will talk about hutch but will also have vivian story progression. so we can expect vivian going out on at least 2 "business" calls is my guess.

I think I'll wait with a comment until the wave of whoring calms down.
i think that's the reaction the dev wanted, vivian being a whore and going back to her hoeing past days.... seems pretty clear from how chapter 2 ended. :sneaky:
 
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Part of the fun of this game seems to be all the armchair psychologists who want to analyze the actions of the pretend characters in the story. Gentlemen, it's pornography. This is written a bit better than your average porn game, to be sure, but most guys watch porn, fap, then go to bed. It's not really a repository for great social commentary. Right or wrong, it allows people to enter into a fantasy world they probably could never or would never actually enter in real life. And it allows the developer to put their characters into situations they know real humans wouldn't be open to. It's a fantasy world. We watch, we take care of certain urges, then we move on with the rest of our duties. Let's try not getting too deep into it. Save that for discussions about Tolstoy, Orwell, Dickens and the like.
 
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