noahsombrero

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whereas Vivian's payment is a one-time... consulting fee.
She gave him useful ideas at the dinner, for instance discovering that husband and wife involved were divorcing. And probably not a good idea to take them to a Japanese restaurant, even if she is Japanese. If mcwife had not done that, I suspect he would not have paid her. He being the successful manager of employees, watcher of return on employee investment. He definitely wants more of that kind of advice from her. The payment reinforces that, and makes it clear that sex between them is an entirely different matter.
 
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Hutch will actually be working on the contract, so he gets a regular payment over its lifetime, whereas Vivian's payment is a one-time... consulting fee.

Or are you suggesting Hutch is having sex with Christian for payment? :ROFLMAO:
no what I'm suggesting is that he gets paid for her services.
 

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no what I'm suggesting is that he gets paid for her services.
That would in no way motivate her to continue giving advice that he needs to have.

So, of the three employees involved in the business deal, one is the salesman, one is the numbers guy, and one is his advisor. All three are essential and they need to understand that and be rewarded accordingly.

It is also good for his relationship with wife and for his business to have it clear that relationship and business are entirely separate concerns for him.
 
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There's a thing in the talks here i'd like to adress which i find perfectly untrue : You can be a good husband a good lover. Btw, Christian, in real life, would be a lousy lover : no foreplay, no going down on her, don't seem to use his fingers, and even during penetration has a poor rythm, thinks bc he has a big one it does the trick. Selfish lovers are bad lovers. If a woman cheats on her husband, it's more often bc they're stuck in rut, don't do the work to keep the fire burning. There's a lot of resons of course but this one is number 1 easy. Don't take MHB too seriously.
 

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That would in no way motivate her to continue giving advice that he needs to have.

So, of the three employees involved in the business deal, one is the salesman, one is the numbers guy, and one is his advisor. All three are essential and they need to understand that and be rewarded accordingly.

It is also good for his relationship with wife and for his business to have it clear that relationship and business are entirely separate concerns for him.
It would make the story more interesting though. Think about it. Where is the logic. In CH1 Hutch almost gets fired. He is demoted but in CH2 gets to be part of a big contract and gets a lot of money for it. makes no sense to me.
 

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There's a thing in the talks here i'd like to adress which i find perfectly untrue : You can be a good husband a good lover. Btw, Christian, in real life, would be a lousy lover : no foreplay, no going down on her, don't seem to use his fingers, and even during penetration has a poor rythm, thinks bc he has a big one it does the trick. Selfish lovers are bad lovers. If a woman cheats on her husband, it's more often bc they're stuck in rut, don't do the work to keep the fire burning. There's a lot of resons of course but this one is number 1 easy. Don't take MHB too seriously.
Agreed. My point has been over several pages of comments that she is no whore, does not deserve to be belittled. In this game or any other context. It is true that wife was unsure of this herself, which is why the conversation with Sunshine is so important to her and to us gamers who want to understand her.

And if she finds she needs a lover to fill in where husband fails, she is entitled to that. So are a whole lot of other women. It is true that it is not husband's fault that he is not a great lover in her eyes, needs to take a pill to get it up sometimes. If husband is willing, she wants to be able to continue loving him as she always has. Which might be a better deal that the walking papers that a lot of husbands get. ymmv.

Chapter 3 will begin with that honest husband/wife conversation, I bet.
 

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no what I'm suggesting is that he gets paid for her services.
Hutch was losing his commission as a salesman as part of his job change - having a more "behind the scenes" role. It was said that his payment would be restructured too, so that he wouldn't see much of a salary change overall. (I think that was including Vivian's paymen though, so that's not entirely accurate. It means that the household wouldn't see a reduction, but it would still mean a reduction for Hutch overall.)
There's a thing in the talks here i'd like to adress which i find perfectly untrue : You can be a good husband a good lover. Btw, Christian, in real life, would be a lousy lover : no foreplay, no going down on her, don't seem to use his fingers, and even during penetration has a poor rythm, thinks bc he has a big one it does the trick. Selfish lovers are bad lovers. If a woman cheats on her husband, it's more often bc they're stuck in rut, don't do the work to keep the fire burning. There's a lot of resons of course but this one is number 1 easy. Don't take MHB too seriously.
Agreed that you can be both a good husband and a good lover. I've not seen comments specifically saying you can't be both (though I admit to skimming some of the posts...), I think it was just Sunshine pulling out of Vivian that Hutch wasn't both. Even that is unclear though, IMO, as Vivian agrees that Hutch is the "safe" option, and not the "wild and exciting" option. You don't have to be wild and exciting to be a good lover though, which ties in with your point.

For the other bit, Christian does go down on Vivian, but I think we've only seen it once (in the office bathroom).

More surprisingly, I was thinking the other day and this has just reminded me... I don't think we've seen Vivian take a facial, as one of the staples of these games. Rain came on her back. Christian has given her a visible creampie and has cum in her mouth, with a little overflow, but I don't think there have been any other times we've actually seen a finish, or have we?
 

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It would make the story more interesting though. Think about it. Where is the logic. In CH1 Hutch almost gets fired. He is demoted but in CH2 gets to be part of a big contract and gets a lot of money for it. makes no sense to me.
It makes sense to the guy who runs a successful business. Boss says that husband gets the fewest sales of any of his employees, but the ones he gets are the most profitable for the business. It makes sense for him to keep husband if he can think of a way.
 

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It makes sense to the guy who runs a successful business. Boss says that husband gets the fewest sales of any of his employees, but the ones he gets are the most profitable for the business. It makes sense for him to keep husband if he can think of a way.
Yeah, i think he needs Hutch a lot more than he's giving him credit for. Plus, it's not impossible a part of the deals Christian makes are shady (no proof just an inutition) and he may need Hutch expertise with numbers to make it seem legit. AGain, pure speculation.
 

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Hutch was losing his commission as a salesman as part of his job change - having a more "behind the scenes" role. It was said that his payment would be restructured too, so that he wouldn't see much of a salary change overall. (I think that was including Vivian's paymen though, so that's not entirely accurate. It means that the household wouldn't see a reduction, but it would still mean a reduction for Hutch overall.)
euhm she was surpised about the amount she got and thought it would be for Hutch at first. this is not being demoted but promoted if you ask me.
 

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Hutch was losing his commission as a salesman as part of his job change - having a more "behind the scenes" role. It was said that his payment would be restructured too, so that he wouldn't see much of a salary change overall. (I think that was including Vivian's paymen though, so that's not entirely accurate. It means that the household wouldn't see a reduction, but it would still mean a reduction for Hutch overall.)

Agreed that you can be both a good husband and a good lover. I've not seen comments specifically saying you can't be both (though I admit to skimming some of the posts...), I think it was just Sunshine pulling out of Vivian that Hutch wasn't both. Even that is unclear though, IMO, as Vivian agrees that Hutch is the "safe" option, and not the "wild and exciting" option. You don't have to be wild and exciting to be a good lover though, which ties in with your point.

For the other bit, Christian does go down on Vivian, but I think we've only seen it once (in the office bathroom).

More surprisingly, I was thinking the other day and this has just reminded me... I don't think we've seen Vivian take a facial, as one of the staples of these games. Rain came on her back. Christian has given her a visible creampie and has cum in her mouth, with a little overflow, but I don't think there have been any other times we've actually seen a finish, or have we?
Maybe you're right for the bathroom. i forgot. But his progression lacks skills lmao. He doesn't do her facials but he cums in her mouth and she swallows. Not sure which one is the most humiliating.
 
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It makes sense to the guy who runs a successful business. Boss says that husband gets the fewest sales of any of his employees, but the ones he gets are the most profitable for the business. It makes sense for him to keep husband if he can think of a way.
Then why would he fire him in the first place?
 

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Yeah, i think he needs Hutch a lot more than he's giving him credit for. Plus, it's not impossible a part of the deals Christian makes are shady (no proof just an inutition) and he may need Hutch expertise with numbers to make it seem legit. AGain, pure speculation.
again. Why would he fire him?
 

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More surprisingly, I was thinking the other day and this has just reminded me... I don't think we've seen Vivian take a facial, as one of the staples of these games. Rain came on her back. Christian has given her a visible creampie and has cum in her mouth, with a little overflow, but I don't think there have been any other times we've actually seen a finish, or have we?
I have wondered about the visible creampie you see in so many of these games. I don't need to see it. Do others? Probably.

Like the sex scene at the end of part 2. I think sc tries to bring a little art to it, it should not be all about what the player wants to see. To really be effective it needs to be about two people loving each other. There is nothing more sexy, I think. Very few dev's do this. Mostly what you see in porn games is prostitution type behavior served up for the stimulation of fappers. Not my deal.

I think the sex scene at the end of part 2 was very effective. No visible creampie needed.
 
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euhm she was surpised about the amount she got and thought it would be for Hutch at first. this is not being demoted but promoted if you ask me.
Most of Hutch's salary, previously, came from his sales commissions. Now he will be receiving it as salaried payments instead. Hutch will get way more than Vivian's single payment, over the term of the contract, but it was said that together, his salary would be worked so that it's not really a reduction of income. As far as Vivian herself goes, she is a part-time teacher at the moment, not exactly a job you'd expect a high salary for (which is a shame). She says "You have no idea how many days I have to teach up to make this much money!" - so we don't know how much her payment is, just that it's a lot more than she was expecting. I would suggest it's less than a year's pay though, because she would be more likely to say something like "That's nearly as much as I make in a year through teaching!" or something similar that equates to the values.
Then why would he fire him in the first place?
again. Why would he fire him?
He said he was never going to fire him, his intention was always to move him to a different role.
 
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Maybe he told the truth to Vivian for once : he didn't want to fire him. But hard to say when this AH tells the truth. ANd there's still a big lie he hasn't come clean to Vivian.
I's say the difficulties that boss was having getting the deal done brought the idea to him that husband could help make the difference. Along with the advice of wife. Otherwise, the deal might not have happened. Surely boss knows that.
 
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