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Are you really confused? There's a lot of cringe in this thread, even though it's nice to see so much exchange. Maybe he's just on a well-deserved vacation or something
TonyMurray
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The amount of vitriol in the couple of days after Ch2 released, I'm not at all surprised. I just hope it's not another dev who has been driven away from the forum.
Yah, lotta cringe. Misogyny, incel, seeking to find an excuse to damn a woman. No understanding of how she feels about the situation.Are you really confused? There's a lot of cringe in this thread, even though it's nice to see so much exchange. Maybe he's just on a well-deserved vacation or something
Actually, the tone has improved a little. When I first arrived there was a lot of hoping for ways she might be totally corrupted, abused, destroyed. Be thankful for small improvements.
I bet the dev was not feeling good about what was going on here. Maybe still not. Often it is a good idea for devs to stay away from forums. The tendencies displayed here are not conducive to holding dinner down.
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lolo540
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This thread is going completely to shit.
Between the full story in pictures and the Chat GPT summaries ...
pffffff
Sc Stories can take 1 or 2 weeks off. Hoping this thread will be more respectful and constructive
Between the full story in pictures and the Chat GPT summaries ...
pffffff
Sc Stories can take 1 or 2 weeks off. Hoping this thread will be more respectful and constructive
Sparta VI
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If that were to happen, it would be a shame. I hope he ignores the air pumps
TonyMurray
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I mean, he's always known the thread can get a bit out of hand, but it's definitely been worse since the release (maybe a bit before , too, tbf). Hopefully it will cool down a bit soon though - I think it had started to do so, until it then started ramping up a bit again...
Ok, let's hear it. What do you have to say about her relation to and dealing with power?
That is much like what I have been hearing. Sorry if it bothers people that I would defend her against such.
I didn't notice that but thanks for the confirmation. Definitely not acting like a luxury escort or a whore for that matter. And yes, I think how she behaved matters more than what she wore or what any sane person should have known, or whether money changed hands within the next day or so.
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SideshowBobNo.2
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No problem, feel free to defend her.
She is not a good person and far away from being a bad one either.
I just thought that sometimes there is no need to overcomplicate things.
By the way I edit my original post, because I was dissatisfied with it.
I hope it's more appropriate now.
Dylan93 here gave some relevant hints I think, but you won't like that post I guess.
Apart from that: For Vivian sex is obviously a power play, that's among the reasons the Sunshine and Rain escapade didn't do it for her in my opinion, there were no power levels involved, just a bit of roleplay if I remember correctly. She wants to sense real power in sex, and that's something she has detected in her sex with the boss, and that's something she doesn't sense with Hutch of course. But I don'T think (up to now) it's submission in the narrow sense she seeks with the boss. She wants to go with the winner and be dominant together with him. She goes over to the winner to win together with him. She wants to be recognized by the powerful one rather than just submit. She has to pretend she is an equal, she has to pretend she is empowered in the moment of objective submission, she wants to prove she is tough enough for him to go through the things he wants her to. Of course it is de facto submission and he knows it, but she wants to pretend otherwise. The fury she shows after the hotel is her getting drawn into a lustful struggle with the boss, as she sees it, to win his recognition, and this irresistible expectation lets her totally shove her husband to the side. At that moment she didn't lust for sex but for a fight, she thought she had earned a fight. The following sex is a struggle in whiich she wants to prove herself. It literally has characteristics of a struggle session.
In addition her relation with the boss gives her opportunities to assert dominance over Hutch openly and by implication and she does it with delight. She does so by talking about him with a manner of superiority and giving away his weaknesses freely to the boss. She constantly from the beginning of the whole story exhibits a protective attitude towards Hutch - some here, Tony for example, interpet this as genuine, I see it as getting into a dominant and belittling role: she protects the absent cuckold by putting in a good word for him with her lover. She rides the bosses cock in the car while crying out that she does this to rescue Hutch: her sexual arousal blends together with her feeling of power over her Husband she has his fate in her hand/pussy in that moment (a reenactment of the chapter 1 ssex). Her disappointment when she hears during the dinner that Hutch's job wasn't in danger is one of losing this role. Her insisting on being the one who has "the talk" with Hutch is also a power move: she can handle this/him (she says it so literally), it gives her a kick instead of embarassement and shame.
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I wonder if she is starting her plan Christian said he told her what she wanted to here . so he basically lied to her to get what he wanted. I find it odd she says the same thin again to him when she is leaving. He did not really answer it. but , did she really just imply that ... that is what she is doing ?
This your opinion asserted as fact upon which you build a scathing critique.
So, again you do not see legitimate feelings in her. Only opportunistic strategies. This is one of the outlooks to which I so strongly object.
No, she implied that is what he has been doing with her again during this last scene. Trying to get her to be ok with the escort thing, for instance. She has drawn her line. I will be interested in what she does when he crosses it.
One thing that women often do not understand about powerful men is that they will in the end not treat her any better than they treat anybody else., So be my escort girl. Powerful men do not make good lovers for more reasons that the mechanical sex ones mentioned earlier.
It is about overcoming the tendency to seek fantasies. Very beautiful women often do not make good wives because of the inevitable ego that goes with that.
Same thing for men. Very powerful men often do not make good husbands because of the inevitable ego that goes with that.
Smart kids learn this early. The super sexy girl is probably not the one you want for a girlfriend, etc. Often an ordinary girl will treat you much better. And isn't that what you really wanted anyway? Not that ordinary girls can't have faults too, but usually not such enormous ones.
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You completely misunderstand (and that's because of this defensive attitude): These ARE her feelings, this IS her arousal, she is completely irrational and emotional in all that. It just doesn't meet your concept of love. And I'm not interested to distinguish between legitimate and illegitmate, these ar not my categories in analyzing a story.
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By the way just because she's a whore doesn't mean she's a bad person, i agree with you on that. It's just that when you've been married to a man who cares about you for 22 years, it's selfish and inconsiderate. That's why i call her a stupid whore.
Apart from all this, I love Vivian too
I guess you are not privy to her feelings. I say she shows in the way she repeatedly tries to come to terms with husband that she wants to love and be loved. Same thing in her happiness with boss after the sex scene at the end of part 2. She feels loved because he was gentle and loving with her as she asked. No amount of power he might have would compensate her if he had not done that.
But, I don't expect you to change your opinions. It would be good if you could acknowledge them as such as I do mine, especially allowing for 5 more chapters to come. Our conclusions are all very premature.
You mean that after 22 years marriages are immune to one partner feeling dissatisfied and seeking something better? The psychological principle that has been mischaracterized here a few time is thatBy the way just because she's a whore doesn't mean she's a bad person, i agree with you on that. It's just that when you've been married to a man who cares about you for 22 years, it's selfish and inconsiderate. That's why i call her a stupid whore.
Apart from all this, I love Vivian too
A woman is willing to risk the relationship for the sake of her happiness
A man will be less likely to take that chance.
The key words are "risk the relationship", rather than one party being more selfish.
Generally, much of the time, if you must have a generality.