VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [Ch.2] [SC Stories]

[lolo540]

I had not gone in this direction of a reading in the third degree (character dreaming all this story).
But it's certain that this hypothesis would be incredibly sexy and ingenious, matching the tattoo!
Even if, for the moment, we'd be more in a nightmare than a dream.

bravo guys

 

[Luc77]

I'm thinking more about a down-to-earth, realistic circle of people — the so-called "power-holding group" (politicians, businessmen) who play with the lives of ordinary people as if they were just pieces in a game.


At this point, we can assume that Vi got caught up in their organization by accident — pulled into something far bigger than herself.
Or — and this would be part of a much broader conspiracy — from the very beginning, she and her seemingly ordinary family were deliberately chosen as a target: to be corrupted, broken down, or used for some calculated agenda.
Of course, it's just one possible interpretation.

The dream world angle feels way too over-the-top... but even that can't be completely ruled out — we might come across signs that suggest it's possible.

 

[TonyMurray]

I'm thinking more about a down-to-earth, realistic circle of people — the so-called "power-holding group" (politicians, businessmen) who play with the lives of ordinary people as if they were just pieces in a game.


At this point, we can assume that Vi got caught up in their organization by accident — pulled into something far bigger than herself.
Or — and this would be part of a much broader conspiracy — from the very beginning, she and her seemingly ordinary family were deliberately chosen as a target: to be corrupted, broken down, or used for some calculated agenda.
Of course, it's just one possible interpretation.

The dream world angle feels way too over-the-top... but even that can't be completely ruled out — we might come across signs that suggest it's possible.

This one feels like a good fit:

 

[Dealbreaker]

I'm thinking more about a down-to-earth, realistic circle of people — the so-called "power-holding group" (politicians, businessmen) who play with the lives of ordinary people as if they were just pieces in a game.

Now I understand why you mentioned lately that you wonder if the number of episodes is enough for the narrative - because that could be a problem indeed with your scenario.
I just thought more about the dream scenario because I feel a bit discouraged by ch 2 to read it in terms of strict realism.

 

[noahsombrero]

I'm thinking more about a down-to-earth, realistic circle of people — the so-called "power-holding group" (politicians, businessmen) who play with the lives of ordinary people as if they were just pieces in a game.


At this point, we can assume that Vi got caught up in their organization by accident — pulled into something far bigger than herself.
Or — and this would be part of a much broader conspiracy — from the very beginning, she and her seemingly ordinary family were deliberately chosen as a target: to be corrupted, broken down, or used for some calculated agenda.
Of course, it's just one possible interpretation.

The dream world angle feels way too over-the-top... but even that can't be completely ruled out — we might come across signs that suggest it's possible.

Way over the top, nightmare. I certainly felt that way at the end of chapter 1. I wasn't sure I wanted to continue this ugly story. But now I see more humanity in it. Husband sitting outside the bedroom as wife and boss fuck the night away was a disturbing image for me. Certainly she had to be a willing partner in that. She did it because she wanted to, there was not one bit of prostitution in it. For me now, I think that is why she is entitled to have this sex with boss. It is as genuine as it gets as the loving in the scene at the end of part 2 shows. There is no greater entitlement. In other lives, she would now be entitled to divorce husband and simply go with boss, but she does not want to do that. Hard road ahead for her.

And that entire night of sex illuminates her statement later about how she won't keep pretending she's not with him.

I don't think any grand conspiracy is necessary. Better to take the story as it is and see where it leads. Because it really does seem to be going somewhere.

 

[xcalibar4]

i maybe cynical but i believe a persons actions define them.....

I think wife does understand what she has done, and shows that when she says she hates herself.

Yeah she is like shoot first and think later type person. noahsombrero I think that's the worst part in ch2 for Vivian. She is deliberately doing things that she knows for sure will hurt Hutch and she will regret. Like before going to the bar she even tells herself that she knows she will regret it but still do it. and I think that's why she hates herself cause she knows what she is doing is wrong but still couldn't/wouldn't stop. Sunshine also points out this saying don't hate yourself. I think one of point her talk with Hutch is to remove the guilt so she can stop hating herself.

If we follow the Mulholland Drive paradigm, it's about a "small existence" which is projected by imagination into the grandiose: in that case Vivian would be a schoolteacher with a husband who lost his job which was financially devastating and she felt helpless and developed contempt for him.

I also thought at one point that it can be a dream or mix of dream & fantasy where viewers can't say for sure if what we are seeing is reality or dream/fantasy (like the Belle De Jour 1967 .. don't know about Mulholland Drive but will check it). Another thing is if it's dream I think it's Hutch who is dreaming not Vivian.

 

[randos belgados]

My Husband's Boss [Ch.2] [SC Stories] - Compressed

Chapter 1
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finally, my only renpy games filter decided to show this game for me. ty for keeping ch1 alive. i wanna play ch1 first

 

[TonyMurray]

She is deliberately doing things that she knows for sure will hurt Hutch and she will regret. Like before going to the bar she even tells herself that she knows she will regret it but still do it. and I think that's why she hates herself cause she knows what she is doing is wrong but still couldn't/wouldn't stop.

I think that evening was important, but I read it slightly differently. It's not a case of she can't stop herself, but more that it's something she felt she had to do. She needed to find out basically if it was her or Christian - so whether it was just Christian who was "revving her motor", or whether others would, and therefore it was more a "Vivian problem".

 

[noahsombrero]

I think that evening was important, but I read it slightly differently. It's not a case of she can't stop herself, but more that it's something she felt she had to do. She needed to find out basically if it was her or Christian - so whether it was just Christian who was "revving her motor", or whether others would, and therefore it was more a "Vivian problem".

Yes, she definitely needed that comparison. Is it really her feeling for him, or could anybody do if for her.

I suspect that is part of what came out of the escort experience for her. That guy did not even come close to revving her. As she told boss later, she felt empowered, free. Now she wants him to be gentle and loving with her. That sealed it.

 

[xcalibar4]

In other lives, she would now be entitled to divorce husband and simply go with boss, but she does not want to do that.

I think she knows Christian will throw her away the moment he thinks she isn't fun/necessary anymore. She herself says it in both chapters. Once she admits to Hutch and other to Sunshine. Even though she has developed some kind of emotional relationship with Christian this knowledge forces her to confront Hutch and try to keep him.
I think when she wanted a gentle loving sex with him she wanted to ensure that if he falls for her he would be the perfect guy for her who knows how to control her, have wild sex with her and when needed loving sex with her. This time it is her who was testing Christian as lover. He may call her property but she has started to see him as a lover.

 

[packard1928]

THat is my hope that she sees it is her. She is finally getting the sex she has always wanted. But maybe she will see she could have had that all along .... with her Husband .

 

[TonyMurray]

THat is my hope that she sees it is her. She is finally getting the sex she has always wanted. But maybe she will see she could have had that all along .... with her Husband .

From the start, I've been thinking that she wouldn't have sex with Hutch for the duration of the game. Now, I don't think it's necessarily more likely that she will fuck Hutch than not fuck him, bit I do think the likelihood of her fucking Hutch has increased after playing/watching Ch2...

 

[xcalibar4]

I think that evening was important, but I read it slightly differently. It's not a case of she can't stop herself, but more that it's something she felt she had to do. She needed to find out basically if it was her or Christian - so whether it was just Christian who was "revving her motor", or whether others would, and therefore it was more a "Vivian problem".

Yes I also get her motivation for wanting to do it. But I was telling before the bar scene IIRC she had a talk with herself that she will regret it later. She knows she is adding more cheating/immorality. And this time with whatever reason/motive she has she is actively seeking it. Till now it was always a pretense to help Hutch and he was present. The dinner backyard + bedroom with Hutch. The bathroom while Hutch was there. Infront house while Hutch is inside.

Through Sunshine & Rain she learned it can be only sex (my personal opinion differs but I'm talking about VN wise) but with Christian it's different and something more. That's why she wanted to break up with him.

 

[IHATESlowburnBluBallgames]

I think she knows Christian will throw her away the moment he thinks she isn't fun/necessary anymore. She herself says it in both chapters. Once she admits to Hutch and other to Sunshine. Even though she has developed some kind of emotional relationship with Christian this knowledge forces her to confront Hutch and try to keep him.
I think when she wanted a gentle loving sex with him she wanted to ensure that if he falls for her he would be the perfect guy for her who knows how to control her, have wild sex with her and when needed loving sex with her. This time it is her who was testing Christian as lover. He may call her property but she has started to see him as a lover.

Christian will not marry her and if he did it would definately be a prenup and I don’t even know if he would stay faithful on the honey moon. Probly already looking for another marriage to destroy cause he is the ultimate home wrecker. Vivian can’t do swinger scene cause she’s too fuckin selfish and greedy. She thinks she can fuck the world but her partner has to stay totally faithful, that won’t fly with Christian though

 

[xcalibar4]

THat is my hope that she sees it is her. She is finally getting the sex she has always wanted. But maybe she will see she could have had that all along .... with her Husband .

I don't think this VN will go into RAAC territory.

From the start, I've been thinking that she wouldn't have sex with Hutch for the duration of the game. Now, I don't think it's necessarily more likely that she will fuck Hutch than not fuck him, bit I do think the likelihood of her fucking Hutch has increased after playing/watching Ch2...

She will fuck him but not with her pussy but with her manipulations

 

[xcalibar4]

Christian will not marry her and if he did it would definately be a prenup and I don’t even know if he would stay faithful on the honey moon. Probly already looking for another marriage to destroy cause he is the ultimate home wrecker. Vivian can’t do swinger scene cause she’s too fuckin selfish and greedy. She thinks she can fuck the world but her partner has to stay totally faithful, that won’t fly with Christian though

Can't agree more

 

[noahsombrero]

Christian will not marry her and if he did it would definately be a prenup and I don’t even know if he would stay faithful on the honey moon. Probly already looking for another marriage to destroy cause he is the ultimate home wrecker. Vivian can’t do swinger scene cause she’s too fuckin selfish and greedy. She thinks she can fuck the world but her partner has to stay totally faithful, that won’t fly with Christian though

Has been ultimate home wrecker. Yes. I bet he has never said the "I own you" words before though. There is something more here for both boss and wife.

Has never drug a woman out a car and told her, "if you don't like it I am through with you. Say it". Why would he care if she likes it if he didn't care what she feels?

We are past the time where she is calling husband on her phone in a bathroom as he fucks her. Here he tells her that he has seen women do that before. This is chapter 2. Things have changed. But, the old saw remains true, if (s)he will do it with you, they will do it to you. Can he be faithful? Is he even capable of it? Bad news wife, he is a very bad bet in the world of prospective lovers. But as always, our feelings rule us. And wife feels it for him.

 

[LUCIANO2020]

If the whole town is in on it, a spider web or trap or maze-scenario (including figures like the "mayor" etc.) this would shift the story definitely into something surreal. An imagination, a dream, a fugue (as Lynch called it). This would explain the exccenticities of the plot, the sex in front of the house, Sunshine and rain, giving phone numbers to Marcel, also scenes like the mechanic, and the dinner ch. 1 which I always found nightmarish. But this imagination would 1 have to belong to one person - which one? And 2 I would think that we would have already more signals of a psychological direction behind it (fear, guilt, bad conscience, trauma), of a reality breaking through at certain points. At the moment I'm on the brink of wishing for this scenario out of reasons of aesthetic coherence.

Edit: More possible indications of that (not saying it's probable): the fact that Marcel coincidentally played basketball right there and then where she was with Sunshine and Rain. The image with Hutch looking through the window others have talked about already. The hotel clerk. The car getting taken care of is also something you would wish for in reality but it does happen only in dreams. The choice of wine which can't be explained (and is connected to a real life memory?).

Also the repetition of motives (which is an element of dream logic which builds variants of a rest of real memories): the parcels with clothes lying in front of the door. Repeated phrases and words. Again sex right in front of Hutch the second time as a totally improbable result of the evening and him looking (this seems to be a consistent fear/motive - meaning having been caught in real life once?).


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(If we follow the Mulholland Drive paradigm, it's about a "small existence" which is projected by imagination into the grandiose: in that case Vivian would be a schoolteacher with a husband who lost his job which was financially devastating and she felt helpless and developed contempt for him. She probably once cheated with the neighbour and got caught or fears that.
If we follow the Lost Highway paradigm, it's about a trauma which gets overworked or worked around by imagination: Vivian could have been raped or otherwise sexually traumatized, her husband didn't help, she felt she had to be strong alone)
Both caases would be delusional compensatory empowerment imaginations.

That is an excellent and very interesting point of view wich can be very very certain .Thaot would explain many things and would be a fantastic ending . I think you are very certain with your tesis.

 

[TonyMurray]

Has been ultimate home wrecker. Yes. I bet he has never said the "I own you" words before though. There is something more here for both boss and wife.

Has never drug a woman out a car and told her, "if you don't like it I am through with you. Say it". Why would he care if she likes it if he didn't care what she feels?

We are past the time where she is calling husband on her phone in a bathroom as he fucks her. Here he tells her that he has seen women do that before. This is chapter 2. Things have changed. But, the old saw remains true, if (s)he will do it with you, they will do it to you. Can he be faithful? Is he even capable of it? Bad news wife, he is a very bad bet in the world of prospective lovers. But as always, our feelings rule us. And wife feels it for him.

I'd probably guess that he has done all that stuff, or very similar stuff before. Why would this be his first time doing it? He's already shown to Vivian (and told her) that she's not his first rodeo horse (yes, I did deliberately amend the usual wording...).

However, why anyone's even suggesting Christian and Vivian might marry, I don't know. That's so far from where we are, from where they both are, it's almost as wild as the theory of everyone in town being in on it except for Vivian and Hutch...

Actually, I'll be serious instead - the way things have gone, and what we have left to come, almost anything is possible. I suppose there's a very slim chance that the game could end with Christian and Vivian married, but if that happens... we're in for a wild couple of chapters to get us there!

 

[soldano]

rather.... What she would like to try. "slut apprentice"at this time.
we'll see if she really likes it

Vivian is already there. She's already accepted who she is. There may be small bouts of rebellion, but there's hardly any turning back.
Chris has basically put a collar on her and tamed her. And she's happy about it. Well, maybe not exactly happy, since she's naturally going to have conflicts with it. But she's accepted it, because it's something she truly carries within her. It's who she truly is.
Vivian isn't "trying it out." Vivian is on all fours in submission.
Just as Hutch isn't planning any revenge.
This is a downward spiral of self-destruction and humiliation for both of them. I think that's been made pretty clear in these two episodes.