Yeah I think he'll break eventually also, But I think before that, we're gonna have 2 more episodes of watching Vivian hoe around on him while he mentally folds. And then, I'm guessing he's gonna do a backflip off a bridge or commit neck-rope to cap us off in episode 5.
Chances are high that you are right but I'd rather see Viv go down. She has al the fun she can also endure the consequences then but not untill CH5Yeah I think he'll break eventually also, But I think before that, we're gonna have 2 more episodes of watching Vivian hoe around on him while he mentally folds. And then, I'm guessing he's gonna do a backflip off a bridge or commit neck-rope to cap us off in episode 5.
Not very satisfying imo, but hey. It's a self described Darker NTR game, I don't think we're gonna get a happy ending here for anyone involded really bois, especially Hutch...
I thought about a couple of things I did not include in my first response. I think the progression of abuse in this VN is accelerated. You are right about Vivian only having a couple of encounters with the boss, and I think the author is accelerating things much faster than they would happen in reality. On whether or not Vivian would be classified as a whore, I think of her as cheater. I don't think there is any debate about that. I will let other posters argue with each other if she is a slut or whore. My issue is she lies to and cheats on her husband. One thing I think is clear from how her character is written is that Christian could have gotten her to cheat on Hutch apart from the abuse. Christian, because he is a sadistic scumbag, chose to move things in the direction of abuse and degradation, but he did not have to. As I wrote in another post, the author makes it clear, Vivian always had the potential to be a cheater. I, and others, I think including Duke, said that Christian could have fucked Vivian secretly. He could have started a secret affair with Vivian, and it is clear she would have gone along with it. He could have set things up the night Vivian and Hutch had dinner with him without having Vivian give him a blowjob or letting him fuck her that night. This is also why, despite my assertion that Vivian's is being abused psychologically and emotionally, I think she is still a terrible wife, and a cheater.
That gives me an idea. Imagine if Marcel pretends to blackmail her into sex, and at the last minute tells her, "No, I just wanted to see if you would actually go through with it. That is why I got your number." Then he begins to lecture her about her immorality, tells her she is a married woman, and says that he is disappointed in her because as a teacher she should be a good example to the students.A nice result that doesn't go there would be Marcel trying to blackmail Vivian for good grades, rather than anything sexual
Shirley, you jest.
Yes. I was jesting, but it would be really funny. So far he hasn't done anything remotely worse, morally, than Vivian. Riding around in a Jaguar, and saving teachers from bullies aren't morally wrong. His sticking up for Vivian is more moral than anything Vivian has done in this story so far. His getting her phone number is nothing compared to her lying, cheating, and hypocrisy. We will see if he does something with it.
Surreal is a worn out word, but this game gives me that bent clock feeling (you know, Salvador Dali).
Correct. It's more incredulity to me. "No seriously, you're not going to do that".
In this thread, most people have always gravitated towards "someone being killed/committing suicide" or something along those lines because the dev has labelled it a "dark/darker" NTR game. Would the level of manipulation and verbal (plus a bit of physical) abuse from Christian; offering Vivian as a signing bonus, where she was then raped; and the potential for more with stuff like the "He can fuck you... spit on you... beat you with a belt... anything he wants, because you are mine, and I gave him my permission to use you as he wished!" comment not make it dark already?Yeah I think he'll break eventually also, But I think before that, we're gonna have 2 more episodes of watching Vivian hoe around on him while he mentally folds. And then, I'm guessing he's gonna do a backflip off a bridge or commit neck-rope to cap us off in episode 5.
Not very satisfying imo, but hey. It's a self described Darker NTR game, I don't really think we're gonna get a happy ending for anyone involved here bois, especially Hutch...
I'm not in favor of "bloody" ending, with suicide/murder. I prefer a more psychological type of consequences. I have always found these to be more satisfying. But it's only my liking.
See I don't see him just ending it all purely because of sawyer ( now if it was to turn out that sawyer wasn't actually his son then it's a different story)Yeah I think he'll break eventually also, But I think before that, we're gonna have 2 more episodes of watching Vivian hoe around on him while he mentally folds. And then, I'm guessing he's gonna do a backflip off a bridge or commit neck-rope to cap us off in episode 5.
Not very satisfying imo, but hey. It's a self described Darker NTR game, I don't really think we're gonna get a happy ending for anyone involved here bois, especially Hutch...
In regards to me mentioning it I don't see it happening and like you said there's nothing to suggest it I more put it in for a broad spectrum of covering all bases haha
Agree, I would be fine with this kind of ending.
Yeah, I didn't quote you specifically because it wasn't in direct response - your post just reminded me of it
Yeah, either both Hutch and Vivian will have a dark ending or just her. Hutch killing himself over his wife's infidelity is the dumbest thing I've ever read.
Yeah it could well be, I'm just throwing out what I personally expect to happen. Not what I want. I would much rather have a nice change of pace from most NTR games, and actually let the MC/Cheated on person move on, find happiness and be alright, while the cheater is the one that suffers for their actions for once.
Eh, plenty of real life examples of parents offing themselves. Even when they have to have known, it would destroy their kids. Having family members that would be sad if you passed, doesn't stop everybody. So he still well could IMO.
But IDK if I can see actual MURDER, happening in this game. Maybe it will, who knows. It's possible for sure. I would much rather, he just leaves her and "beats" her, by just moving on and finding someone new, (MAYBE ADDISON ) and just being happy. While she just keeps freefalling into her pit of "sexual awakening" or whatever the fuck she's doing...Sure - would be totally strange if sex and relationshipls woulld actually mean anything, wouldn't it?
