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I'm really amazed how this thread about just a porn "game" has derailed. We're discussing for weeks about philosophical matters as cheating, betrayal, love, lust, honesty, lies, whore/slut vs. decent/honorable, about analyzing characters, actions, mindsets,...
I don't remember seeing something like that about other games here.
Hats off SC Stories ! You created a monster ! Even the term "porn" is no longer relevant, this work is definitely something different.
All that and more at BaD. Including champions of various li's. X is my girl. No I hate X, Y is my girl. Night and day 365 days a year. A year and a half between new versions. It is true that MHB is very like the early days at BaD in terms of message flow.

Yes, much better than most porn. But still porn. I think.
 
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Hmm...:unsure: I think it could work, not saying it should or will. But I see the potential...I mean how much more shock and awe can we really get in the next chapter. She's gonna fuck Christian again at the party while Hutch is present (at least, like 99% sure that is gonna happen) and then it's pretty much guaranteed, that she's going to fuck the Token BBC student as well. Idk how tf else you would explain that shot of her dress and high heels in his room if she's not.

Like, what else can we really fit into this insane week or two, whatever it is, going on. I don't want this story to just turn into watching Vivian go from a different cock to cock, day by day now. that would be boring...:cautious:

Could also help Hutch come to terms with the fact, that his marriage is dead,:cry: and help him finally realise. That could be a great thing for him! :D As he could potentially, have a nicer younger lady waiting right there...:love: IF HE COULD JUST FIND HIS BALLS AND GO FOR IT :ROFLMAO:

#HutchMakeMeProud:ROFLMAO:
It is a porn game so I am all for watching Vivian go from one cock to another if the build up to those encounters is at least competently written:)
 

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All that and more at BaD. Including champions of various li's. X is my girl. No I hate X, Y is my girl. Night and day 365 days a year. A year and a half between new versions. It is true that MHB is very like the early days at BaD in terms of message flow.

Yes, much better than most porn. But still porn. I think.
Is this really the same target group for BaD and MHB?
 
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Is this really the same target group for BaD and MHB?
I think the target group is well done story, good graphics. BaD has more sex, but that will count for less among this group. It is true though that the college kid schtick is wearing thin. When DPK started, it might have been a new idea. 38 him, 45 her. SC is breaking new ground.

You are right though, those who seek to see women degraded and those who want to see them as potential lovers are distinct groups. I don't want to see women degraded and I don't look to porn to show me potential lovers. I simply enjoy a good game, sometimes with incest but usually not, sometimes with significant violence but usually not. The same thing is true for me in all genre. Excellence is possible, and I enjoy it when I find it. YMMV.
 
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I'm really amazed how this thread about just a porn "game" has derailed. We're discussing for weeks about philosophical matters as cheating, betrayal, love, lust, honesty, lies, whore/slut vs. decent/honorable, about analyzing characters, actions, mindsets,...
I don't remember seeing something like that about other games here.
Hats off SC Stories ! You created a monster ! Even the term "porn" is no longer relevant, this work is definitely something different.
But that was the premise of SC Stories - a story for which porn is a natural development, not porn for which we invent a story. In the second part - we have two porn scenes:
the scene in the car - a strong classic, based on pornlogic, and the scene with Sunshine/Rain, which is very specific, heavily technical, which is even closer to “documentary” films about sex than pure porn. The other two scenes (Rees & Chris) are more into erotica.
 
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The other two scenes (Rees & Chris) are more into erotica.
I don't find these 2 scenes erotic at all. Don't get me wrong, they are exciting, but not in an erotic way. They awaken a desire, but a darker desire, something perverse, depraved. Very disturbing in fact. But what is more disturbing is that I want to see Vivian being even more humiliated, more abused. I want her to fall even deeper into debauchery and depravation. And I don't know if it is me, or the intention of SC Stories to create this discomfort...
 
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I don't find these 2 scenes erotic at all. Don't get me wrong, they are exciting, but not in an erotic way. They awaken a desire, but a darker desire, something perverse, depraved. Very disturbing in fact. But what is more disturbing is that I want to see Vivian being even more humiliated, more abused. I want her to fall even deeper into debauchery and depravation. And I don't know if it is me, or the intention of SC Stories to create this discomfort...
I don't think any of us here are qualified to answer your question, but as you work through this for yourself, you might consider that some of us share your desire to see her further humiliated (and are not troubled with themselves concerning that desire) and others of us do not share it.
 
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I don't think any of us here are qualified to answer your question, but as you work through this for yourself, you might consider that some of us share your desire to see her further humiliated (and are not troubled with themselves concerning that desire) and others of us do not share it.
It's not my will to see Vivian into depravation that I find disturbing. If I am on F95 it's bacause I want to see something like that. It's the feeling of discomfort that disturbs me, and it's the writing of SC Stories that is the cause : there's a sort of attachment to Vivian. On one hand I want her saved, on the other damned.
 

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It's not my will to see Vivian into depravation that I find disturbing. If I am on F95 it's bacause I want to see something like that. It's the feeling of discomfort that disturbs me, and it's the writing of SC Stories that is the cause : there's a sort of attachment to Vivian. On one hand I want her saved, on the other damned.
I want to see her saved too. But I think the odds are that I will not. Feel her confusion, her inability to decide. Don't damn a lost soul. Help.

The thing to notice is that after the rape scene, we are in deep fantasyland. Wife should feel that boss has betrayed her unforgivably, and she starts to tell him that, but the scene warps and soon she is asking him for gentle loving sex. In all I count 6 times she reverses herself since the rape scene. Is she sane? I am not sure.

But boss does give her what she asked for, in one of the most erotic sex scenes in pornland in my opinion. If he had told her, I own you and I am going to fuck you the way I want, and do that in a rough scene, I would say she was being degraded and wife might even agree. That could have been where she sees him for what he is. But no. Again, it might be that he is too smart for her to unmask. So far.
 
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I believe in my boi!

He will do something, at some point!! And I will be here for it...:LOL: I just hope that the thing he does, is Addison herself...:ROFLMAO:
I kind of hope Hutch does go the M.A.D route and does do something with Addison. The only reason I even give NTR stories a go is because of the game Babysitter the NTR Antagonist takes your Goddaughter/Niece corrupts her and shags her in your house, and as revenge you can get his wife pregnant in his house with him outside the door hearing everything your character is doing to her, while raging about her being a cheater, and also you can blow his daughters back out on his ship. Given what we've been shown of Hutch I don't think he has the balls to do it though, but if he does this situation is going to be hilarious to watch unfold. With everyone regretting their decisions. Addison and Hutch together would definitely be an interesting twist for Vivian and Christian(especially if that was Addison in his bed in chapter 1) to deal with.
 
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It has been already discussed here repeatedly. I am wondering in what state of mind will Vivian return home after the end of chapter 2. It is almost certain her feelings towards Hutch are gone. Why would she stay with him at this moment? She can earn money working both for the school and for the boss. What good is Hutch for her? She does not need him, at best he is like a flat mate for her now. I would not be surprised if she will also take active role in humiliating him without remorse in next chapter.
I think Hutch has an attract Do not make her dispense with him even with practice with other men
 

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It has been already discussed here repeatedly. I am wondering in what state of mind will Vivian return home after the end of chapter 2. It is almost certain her feelings towards Hutch are gone. Why would she stay with him at this moment? She can earn money working both for the school and for the boss. What good is Hutch for her? She does not need him, at best he is like a flat mate for her now. I would not be surprised if she will also take active role in humiliating him without remorse in next chapter.
I 'm leaning towards this idea. I think the main attraction will be the party at Christian's. But i believe also something dark will happen to Vivian and make her question her last choices. I think she may be raped again and not like it so much. I always entertained also the idea that her reckless behaviour will make her subject to blackmail from multiple persons. I may be totally wrong but there's too many foreshadowing for her to fall, it would be surprising if nothing sticks.

SCS to Vivian :

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In chap1 yes I agree. But after chap2, I'm sure she has fallen for him. It's a perverted and maybe non conventional love, but it's love. At least that's what she thinks.
It's only my opinion of course, others may disagree.
I think obsessed might be a better term, but you are free to disagree. I think he knew how to get his hooks deep into her, and it worked. She walked right into it.
 
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I think obsessed might be a better term, but you are free to disagree. I think he knew how to get his hooks deep into her, and it worked. She walked right into it.
The magic of fantasy. There is something in boss that she is unable to resist. 5 seconds after she meets him, she feels seduced and her knees buckle. No matter what he does (send her to be raped), no matter how angry she is, she is unable to maintain that in his presence. It is like the pimp turning a wastrel to prostitution. If things go badly for her, the pimp is her comfort not the cause. But wife is not a wastrel.

His control over her is almost demonic, at least until they have had sex. Then she can remember she must go home to husband. What will it be like when the kiss of the demon finally puts her to sleep? What is SC going to do with this situation?
 
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If Hutch is smart and plays his cards right, he could move out and fuck Addison.
It would be an improvement, she is younger, better looking, not corrupted.
(Sorry for the long reply, it's just that this one comes up a lot, but it was your post that made me decide to drop in my thoughts today.)

Heart says yes but head says no (kind of...).

That's part of the appeal of this game for me as well, to be honest. I literally have no idea how it's going to go - it could easily go in two completely opposite directions at the moment, and both work perfectly.

As far as Hutch and Addison goes, I would say that Hutch (at the moment) is showing no signs of doing anything. He looks like he's still in a mindset of despair and apathy (I sort of wanted to look at seven stages of grief, but I could make an argument for about four or five of them with one in the middle not really touched on yet). So far, there's no thought of evening the scores, either out of spite or genuinely for his own benefit. He's also shown no indication that he likes Addison as anything other than a friendly colleague.

Just because there's another character who appears to show interest in an MC, doesn't mean something will happen. And technically, all the interest we've seen from Addison could add up to nothing - "she's very sweet once she gets to know you," and maybe the only reason we see anything more there is because we're looking at it through our porn glasses. So far, she's just trying to comfort a colleague/friend who's going through a rough patch at work.

Also, in these games, I'd say it would be unusual (though not unheard of) for the "victim" of the cheating to start up something of his own. But saying that, dev has long said that this isn't a typical NTR game, and perhaps that might be one of the areas where it breaks the mould a bit...

On the plus side of the argument, despite what she's shown her thoughts on it to be, Vivian herself suggested to Hutch that he could even the score. She might say she would rather gouge her eyes out, but she did give him permission. On top of that, even if there was no interest in that way towards Addison, Vivian has planted the seed. She specifically asked Hutch if he was close to Addison, and even if he was fucking her (though not in so many words). So if he wasn't thinking about it before, maybe he is now...

What we have at the moment is the direct opposite of the usual mindset we tend to see - usually the guy wants an open relationship so he can fuck other women, but says the woman isn't allowed to fuck other men. Vivian knows that is a selfish standing point, she knows what it says about her, but is she going to have to make the "noble sacrifice" herself, and get a bit of a taste of her own medicine? Will that be what (if anything) brings some sort of resolution to their current situation?

Arguing against one of my own points from this post, there's also the "Checkhov's gun" element of whether dev would give us an attractive character, who is at the very least always acting in a positive manner towards Hutch, and give those little hints (Vivian's bits from the previous paragraph), and then not have anything happen. It would be a bit of a bait and switch, but as I said at the start, it's one of those things that I could literally see going in two opposite directions and both still working.

Chapter 3 could be "make or break" for Hutch. If things go well (and IMO, dev has a good record so far), I can see Hutch turning around and becoming a favourite character for many players. From what we've heard, this will be a chapter where Hutch is more like an MC than a side character, so we might expect a bit more agency from him, and to learn some of what's actually going on in his head. If he remains in a state of apathy for the chapter, I don't think it would be a great release, so I'm not expecting that - at least not when he's elsewhere. Maybe he's only in that frame of mind around Vivian at the moment, because he doesn't know how else to be around her, and any lighter feeling he may have would probably be hard to keep up once he is hit in the face with the reminder of what's happened.
 

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do we have previews for the next update?last update had some of those at the end of the chapter
Not at the end of the game, like the original 0.2 release (those previews are not present in the revamped Ch1 release). So far, there have been no new renders since the launch of Ch2. Actually, Dev has been radio silent since – hopefully just enjoying a bit of a breather (and waiting for the thread to die down a bit!).
 
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