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He is going to have to take her at some point ... just like Christian did. Just my thought...
According to what we have seen of Hutch so far, and the way Vivian sees him (and don't forget that she is supposed to know him much better than us after 22 years of marriage) I'm doubtful something like that will happen... But we'll see...
 

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According to what we have seen of Hutch so far, and the way Vivian sees him (and don't forget that she is supposed to know him much better than us after 22 years of marriage) I'm doubtful something like that will happen... But we'll see...
Risky theory: Christian is just Hutch without having been married and with more luck in life.
 

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Yes... I agree . We need to see what is going to happen to Hutch in chapter 3 . How will he develope. Revenge at Christian, Revenge to Vivian, or make plans ? All is up in the air at this point. Fact is Vivian already has an opinion of Hutch and it is not as a demanding , adventurious sex god. She does see him a a lover... She needs him to be that tender guy she can cuddle up to. And,,, He is. She did mention he "WAS" a tiger once when she wore a sexy nightgown. So, We see he can be that side for her ... but mentally she is not there yet.
Christian is the opposite, he is the "wild and dangerous", but Vivian asks him to be gentle because that's what she needs at that moment. Maybe that's a test in itself, to see if one person can be both of those things as required. Perhaps she could try that with Hutch?
(No, I don't think so either, but it's another possibility...)
 
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I may be totally wrong, but I see more Hutch as the lucky guy knowing he married a girl at least 2 leagues above him. And I think his insecurities and his "submissiveness" in the couple come from that.
(Well we know that in real life, wives have always the lead in a couple, especially married ;).)
 
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Christian is the opposite, he is the "wild and dangerous", but Vivian asks him to be gentle because that's what she needs at that moment. Maybe that's a test in itself, to see if one person can be both of those things as required. Perhaps she could try that with Hutch?
(No, I don't think so either, but it's another possibility...)
Iagree... I think she asked that of him ( Christian ) to see if he had the tender side like Hutch... But I think she still views christian as just sex...... she still loves her husband.
 

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Christian is the opposite, he is the "wild and dangerous", but Vivian asks him to be gentle because that's what she needs at that moment. Maybe that's a test in itself, to see if one person can be both of those things as required. Perhaps she could try that with Hutch?
(No, I don't think so either, but it's another possibility...)
like Tyler Durden, Marla and narrator (Edward Norton)

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Iagree... I think she asked that of him ( Christian ) to see if he had the tender side like Hutch... But I think she still views christian as just sex...... she still loves her husband.
I think any test there would have been more a test of Christian - can he be tender like Hutch, as you say. I still don't think she meant to find that out because she's gearing up to leave Hutch for Christian (and if she were to do that, she might find that she's not desired by Christian anymore anyway...). Perhaps though, if things do go south and Hutch ends it (as per her nightmare), she'll know from her test that Christian could be someone she turns to full time. I think that's getting way ahead of where we are at the moment though, at least untill we get some Ch3 info.
 

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I may be totally wrong, but I see more Hutch as the lucky guy knowing he married a girl at least 2 leagues above him. And I think his insecurities and his "submissiveness" in the couple come from that.
(Well we know that in real life, wives have always the lead in a couple, especially married ;).)
I will add that Vivian's "conservative" behavior in the bedroom didn't help him with his insecurities.
 

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Not so sure. Christian was given more in one day than Hutch has received from Vivian in 25 years. Both in sex and in honesty. In my humble opinion of course.
I phrased it deliberately in such a way as food for thought. And because I see in the forum a very persistent tendency to view humans as fixed characters from birth as opposed to what decades of lifestyle, job and living together with such a person as Vivian is make of you.

I may be totally wrong, but I see more Hutch as the lucky guy knowing he married a girl at least 2 leagues above him. And I think his insecurities and his "submissiveness" in the couple come from that.
(Well we know that in real life, wives have always the lead in a couple, especially married ;).)
And here we have the opposite position - the whole concept of women being in different leagues is imo a dangerous and self-depreciating one. It's a mind virus which could well be in Hutche's head as well... Although I don't think he went into the relationship with that mindset, I think it's a matter of being exhausted and depressed and conditioned over time.
 
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Iagree... I think she asked that of him ( Christian ) to see if he had the tender side like Hutch... But I think she still views christian as just sex...... she still loves her husband.
I genuinely don't see how anybody can think she still "loves" her husband, after all the shit that's happened...That's crazy. She's done him soooooooo fucking dirty, repeatedly, this entire story. And then even tried to blame him for it, at the bar with Sunshine...No fucking way is she in love with him. You don't put the people you love, through the shit that she's now doing.

She's a hoe...A disloyal one at that, IMO. (y)
 

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Iagree... I think she asked that of him ( Christian ) to see if he had the tender side like Hutch... But I think she still views christian as just sex...... she still loves her husband.
hutch goes on busines trip.. she takes off ring.. goes to bar.. says both men in her life are gone. takes it in butt from a stranger and dykes out .. then gets smashed by a client.. then right after gets smashes again by christian after screaming at hutch.. if thats love sign me up buddy im ready !!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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hutch goes on busines trip.. she takes off ring.. goes to bar.. says both men in her life are gone. takes it in butt from a stranger and dykes out .. then gets smashed by a client.. then right after gets smashes again by christian after screaming at hutch.. if thats love sign me up buddy im ready !!!!!!!!!!!!!
She yelled at Hutch after the Rape... All she could see is Red for Christian at that point. THen she gets with Christian and he not only is able to change her whole demeanor but then Fucks her twice.... She either she is VERY VERY easily manipulated Or she is just crazy confused by it All. I am going out on a limb to say she is not in love with Christian... Just me I think she has something going on to say she belongs to him now. Maybe the 3rd chapter will help with that.
 

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Late to the party, but wanted to share my 2 cents. I have mixed feelings. I guess I now understand better why SC Stories doesn't consider Vivian such an interesting character. Even if the cinematics and the attention to details are still there (her facial expressions are amazing), Viv's model is original and very hot, the writing is engaging and well above the rest (the dialogue at the bar and the threesome night are by far the best), I find her character (and Christian's) are too much cliché. They are out of tune with the rest of the AVN.

That’s why I find it hard to buy her descent into hell and the power dynamics between both. Her pathetic and childish behavior in this update doesn't match the kind of woman portrayed in the first one and in parts of this update (a determined and independent 45-years-old woman). Certainly, she has been fooled by a guy she finds attractive and who fucks her very well, but now she's fully aware she's being manipulated and whored. So her reactions during this update are even more jarring. For instance, she let herself being treated like a cheap street whore when thrown out naked from the car by her pimp. She doesn't tell the guy to fuck off. She just wants him to fuck her harder. Or when she relates the way she got raped while he’s fucking her. the same way Doesn't match her personality. It's too much porn logic.



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I thought that in this update she will progressively embrace her sexual exploration side. Instead, she always finds herself in a coercive situation, angry, not enjoying fully her sexual desires. What she “feels” sexually is always defined by others (Christian specially, but the swinger couple also).

After the first update, I expected it could be different, with her choosing with whom and how she will cheat and fuck (such as losing her anal virginity), once she accepted that other side of hers (triggered by her husband's boss). Exploring from an adult POV (not childish as 99% of avn) the dilemma of staying with her husband, whom she (still) apparently loves, and (re)connecting with her sexual side. Then finally seeing the dire consequences of this choices unfold.

Instead, we have another broken doll, this time in the form of an extremely hot milf. As shallow as a pond in a drought (willing to forgive a bastard for a glass of a special wine or a dinner in a fancy restaurant). I think though something traumatic happened in Paris she didn't say at the restaurant, that could explain it. Selfish, that want to cheat and at the same time that her cuck husband fight for her. Moreover, with no agency whatsoever. Overall, not so different from the others FMC around here.

She's still getting emotionally intimate and clingy with a guy that she's fully aware she's being manipulated by, that send her to get raped, that belittle her husband. And even like this, she’s unable to put an end. She knows he's sabotaging her marriage, nevertheless she tells him all her plans to try to solve her relation with Hutch.

I suppose she will become a fetish token/or “crowd pleasers” in dev’s terms. What’s next? A DP (as hinted with the swinger couple) with her student and another black shady guy? or with Christian and another guy from the office to humiliate Hutch and her even further? I think Christian will be even more degrading because she's becoming too clingy with him. A gangbang maybe?

In the meantime, she will be more and more exposed. Most probably there will be people that know her at the garden party. She will fuck up her job by engaging with her (also) cliché dodgy black student.

As some pointed out already, I think that the dark story will include Vivian's psychological annihilation and Hutch's degradation as well. There isn't any clue pointing out to some sort of "salvation", even in a darker scenario.

Having said this, I'm interested in the next update, to know what Hutch mindset is, because he is totally incapable of communicate it to his still wife and he's more interesting as a character in dev's eyes. I hope it won't be as cliché as Vivian and Christian and he won't slowly find out that he's a cuck and enjoy it, such as Sunshine guessed.

P.S: By the way, how Christian knows about the special wine if, according to her, Hutch doesn't know this detail? Maybe Hutch knows better her wife than she believes herself.
 

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I loved this new update and thought the bar pick up threesome was great but we needed the women to do stuff together as well. Like to see the son come home and catch his mom with another guy or two in her bedroom . I hope this Milf gets completely corrupted and becomes one hell of a Milf Whore. Hope we dont have to wait to long for the next update?
 
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I phrased it deliberately in such a way as food for thought. And because I see in the forum a very persistent tendency to view humans as fixed characters from birth as opposed to what decades of lifestyle, job and living together with such a person as Vivian is make of you.


And here we have the opposite position - the whole concept of women being in different leagues is imo a dangerous and self-depreciating one. It's a mind virus which could well be in Hutche's head as well... Although I don't think he went into the relationship with that mindset, I think it's a matter of being exhausted and depressed and conditioned over time.
It also makes the, "league" a person is in, all about their looks. It is true that a lot of people think that way, especially in the west, but people can bring more to the table than that. Just because a person is physically attractive doesn't make them marriage or even serious relationship material. There are physically attractive people with repulsive personalities and less physically attractive people with great personalities. Looks fade over time, and if that is all the marriage was about, Hutch and Vivian didn't have much to begin with.I think there was more to it than that. I think in Hutch and Vivian's case, things went beyond just looks. I realize this is a porn game site and everything is about how pretty the models are, but in the case of decades of marriage people should have built something together that is based on more than looks. Vivian looks good at 45, but in 5 or 10 years her looks could go down hill a lot. Christian might not want Vivian at all in a few years if her looks fade.
 
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P.S: By the way, how Christian knows about the special wine if, according to her, Hutch doesn't know this detail? Maybe Hutch knows better her wife than she believes herself.
Hutch knows she loves the wine, he just doesn't know the story behind it. The simplest answer - Hutch told CHris that Vi likes the wine. End of story




Let's agree - Vi's appearance is already slightly exaggerated (pornlogic) , and these are her last moments. In 5 years she will no longer be a MILF but a cougar. Chris will take a younger one for himself. She's enjoying the last moments of her promotion, when guys are dragging their eyes after her. Notice how insecure she is about the Hutch-Addison relationship. How often she says that Hutch will leave her, and find a younger one.
 
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Hutch knows she loves the wine, he just doesn't know the story behind it. The simplest answer - Hutch told CHris that Vi likes the wine. End of story
The simple answer to it (although it could just have been coincidence, that might seem a bit much). The question is why would Hutch have given Christian that bit of information? It's not as if he'd (voluntarily) be doing something to help Christian's relationship with Vivian, from what we've seen so far. Christian forcing it out of him somehow? Or would he just have asked and Hutch not think it's a big/important enough detail to hold it back? The first step in a "show my wife a good time" mentality?
 
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