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Well...

there is real life and then there is entertainment. With entertainment it's not real...but that doesn't stop people from liking/disliking, finding inspiration, or getting emotionally invested in a work of fiction. So, we all have to take a grain of salt because in all reality it's like talking about weaponizing squirrels--pointless, though to be fair it can be fun to waste time discussing it.
I said that this story is written in a realistic way
I never said that is not a fiction

The great thing about this is that this story could be the couple who live near my house where there is a wife who is a teacher and the husband is employed in a financial private company

This makes the story realistic and believable
I do take issue with "porn logic" as being a workaround in a story's plot because it's just lazy or lack of talent. And these "games"...damn. For some reason chicks-with-dicks is the theme of many new games... almost every game out there has a guy with a dick as long as his forearm (and all women in those games go KooKOO for it)... and it's like watching acrobatswith all the crazy positions and... {never mind :rolleyes:}
I already write that if porno logic means that Chris has an erection when is in the car with Vivian..
WELL
I will also had an erction in that car for real ;)
Now as far as "My husband's Boss," it has the potential of being a great game... at the moment it's a good game. I said it earlier, but the Sunshine/Rain story to propel the narrative of a wife taking it upon herself to cheat was a bit too much... or as you have correctly pointed out "PORN LOGIC." What are the odds of a woman meetings another woman into swinging at bar...with swinging husband in tow and they happen to even talk about life phycology ending up in bed... or the odds of Vivian going out and getting picked up by some random dude? Yes, I know it's the developer's narrative to explain the character Vivian... but what path is the better one?
I don't think Sunshine will be a permanent character...it is very provable that both Rebecca and her husband Brian /those are their real names are just side characters who will never appear again...or they will be random encounters
I believe that the developer will close the fictional narrative in 8/10 chapters at most and that all events will see Vivian as the center of the story
I do like the story...
Me too, but that means that the "porn logic" has nothing to do with this game and will never be present in this story.... because even in real life we have sex and in this case Viv does it with her husband's boss because the conditions lead the couple, including Hutch, to this choice.
The whole thing is pretty damn realistic (again I am not talking that the story is reality.. it is fiction)
but for what we see in the first two chapters the story is believable and there are no holes in the script

This is what I call a realistic narrative
I was wondering how the developer was to explain Vivian's actions at the dinner and thought his solution was flashbacks... but no, the explanation of Vivian's behavior is explained in the duologs between Christian and Vivian in Chp. 2 Actually I think it's a pretty clever writing style that both explains Vivian's behavior then and now, as well as flesh out Vivian's evolution going into this lifestyle
The story takes place in the present, and if there are flashbacks I strongly hope that they will be centered on Viv's past.... because she is undoubtedly the main character and as I said in my previous posts there is a side of Vivian that might lead us to find out why Hutch married such a sexually exuberant woman ... for sure they love each other but there is something missing ... and knowing why Hutch married Vivian is very important to close the “realistic” picture of her apparently bipolar behavior.
 
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The proving he had an erection in the car thing looked like porn logic, but I actually liked how it was addressed later on:
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 Sunshine: “Whatever... after this dinner you jumped his bones?"
Vivian: “Yes... "
Vivian: “I mean, he certainly didn't try to stop me, but yes."
Vivian: “I created a contrived situation so that I could, more or less, assault him."
So rather than the usual situation where you'd see it happen, here it was premeditated. It's like she was saying "I know this would count as porn logic, but I can't help myself, I need an excuse..."

When they arrived at the Harris home, I don't think it was necessarily disappointment that she felt. I think the fist two emotions would have been surprise (that he actually did what he said he was going to do, and drive her straight home) and anger (that he pulled up on her driveway while she was fellating him), with a bit of disappointment only then coming in after those, if she was being truthful with herself.
Right, so we can add to my description of her indecisiveness the two scenes where
she takes boss's dick out his pants while he is driving and proceeds to pleasure it
she takes her ring off and goes to a bar hoping to hook up with a young guy.

So, let's go back to where Wife storms in full of fury and Boss ends up asking her what she wants from him
She says, "I want you to be loving and gentle with me." She did not say loving sex, which is what Boss gives her. That is not quite the same thing.

Boss wants her to say, he owns her, and she does, but when Boss mentions the escort thing, her rage comes out and she says, we will not speak of this again. She is still quite angry. And when she is ready to leave, she says, but remember... with all the associated implications.

Wife is well aware of Boss's homewrecker history since he has told her about it. So if he can't act like he loves her, he is more than a bad bet, he is a worthless bet. Boss wants her to ditch Husband, but she is not going to do that without a real sense of love from Boss.

Boss has introduced her to roudy, rough, glorious sex. Whether she knew about that before or not. I suspect she did not, otherwise Boss's revelation would not be such a big deal for her. Wife is ready to do nearly whatever she must to have more of that, including doing it in her own driveway when what she was hoping for was a fancy hotel. But again, this is not evidence of love to her. It is evidence of how Boss wants to get rid of Husband in her life.

Getting rid of Husband might very well be the final step in Boss's homewrecker game. After that, ditch the bitch. No wonder Wife is so unsure.
 

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Wife is well aware of Boss's homewrecker history since he has told her about it. Boss wants her to ditch Husband,

Getting rid of Husband might very well be the final step in Boss's homewrecker game.
Just on this bit, I don't think there's any mention of anything in a "homewrecker" sense - just that many people would assume it to be homewrecking stuff. For instance, the only actual example (as far as I recall) of Christian's past exploits in this area is the ice-cream story:
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Christian: "Tell him nothing happened and stick to it. Trust me... Hutch might be a little moody for a couple days, but he'd never confront you."
Vivian: "What makes you so sure?"
Christian: "Because I've bagged plenty of wives married to men like him. Perfect husbands, perfect fathers, perfect providers... perfect beta males."
Christian: "And every one of them would lick another man's cum dripping down his wife's leg if she told him it was ice-cream."
Christian: "~ Laughing ~ One of them actually did that... literally..."
Christian: "~ Laughing ~ He watched me bang his wife then she made him do that. It was her kink."
That sounds like your typical cuck-humiliation thing, but it doesn't mean that the marriage in question was destroyed. In fact, the "he'll be moody for a couple days" bit suggests that, in his experience, the couple doesn't necessarily split up, or at least not initially.

I don't think Christian has said anything about getting rid of Hutch, or taking Vivian away from Hutch. Although there's no confirmation, it appears that he enjoys the thrill of the chase and the power it gives him over the husbands, rather than it being a case of him wanting the wives to leave their husbands (no evidence either way, so that's just guesswork based on what little was said). The closest we've had was Christian asking Vivian to stay at the end of Ch2, which I took to mean "stay the night" but I suppose could have been a more long-term request.
 

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Just on this bit, I don't think there's any mention of anything in a "homewrecker" sense - just that many people would assume it to be homewrecking stuff. For instance, the only actual example (as far as I recall) of Christian's past exploits in this area is the ice-cream story:
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Christian: "Tell him nothing happened and stick to it. Trust me... Hutch might be a little moody for a couple days, but he'd never confront you."
Vivian: "What makes you so sure?"
Christian: "Because I've bagged plenty of wives married to men like him. Perfect husbands, perfect fathers, perfect providers... perfect beta males."
Christian: "And every one of them would lick another man's cum dripping down his wife's leg if she told him it was ice-cream."
Christian: "~ Laughing ~ One of them actually did that... literally..."
Christian: "~ Laughing ~ He watched me bang his wife then she made him do that. It was her kink."
That sounds like your typical cuck-humiliation thing, but it doesn't mean that the marriage in question was destroyed. In fact, the "he'll be moody for a couple days" bit suggests that, in his experience, the couple doesn't necessarily split up, or at least not initially.

I don't think Christian has said anything about getting rid of Hutch, or taking Vivian away from Hutch. Although there's no confirmation, it appears that he enjoys the thrill of the chase and the power it gives him over the husbands, rather than it being a case of him wanting the wives to leave their husbands (no evidence either way, so that's just guesswork based on what little was said). The closest we've had was Christian asking Vivian to stay at the end of Ch2, which I took to mean "stay the night" but I suppose could have been a more long-term request.
I don’t see Christian keeping Vivian like a girlfriend at all, hes not looking for relationship, He’s only sticking around until he gets her ass which will probly be in the next update and then he can send her out to the clients and the streets like a pimp and be done with her and on to his next married woman to conquer and possibly wreck another marriage
 
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Just on this bit, I don't think there's any mention of anything in a "homewrecker" sense - just that many people would assume it to be homewrecking stuff. For instance, the only actual example (as far as I recall) of Christian's past exploits in this area is the ice-cream story:

Christian: "Tell him nothing happened and stick to it. Trust me... Hutch might be a little moody for a couple days, but he'd never confront you."
Vivian: "What makes you so sure?"
Christian: "Because I've bagged plenty of wives married to men like him. Perfect husbands, perfect fathers, perfect providers... perfect beta males."
Christian: "And every one of them would lick another man's cum dripping down his wife's leg if she told him it was ice-cream."
Christian: "~ Laughing ~ One of them actually did that... literally..."
Christian: "~ Laughing ~ He watched me bang his wife then she made him do that. It was her kink."
Right, and one more: They are fucking in a bathroom with Husband watching from a stall. Wife takes out her phone while fucking and apologizes to Husband for not speaking to him before leaving. Boss laughs and says, I have seen women do that before with me.

It seems to me that he has been homewrecking for some time from that and other things he says. If I were Wife, I would certainly hear it that way.

That sounds like your typical cuck-humiliation thing, but it doesn't mean that the marriage in question was destroyed. In fact, the "he'll be moody for a couple days" bit suggests that, in his experience, the couple doesn't necessarily split up, or at least not initially.
I think Boss's intent is more to discredit Boss as a man in her eyes.

I don't think Christian has said anything about getting rid of Hutch, or taking Vivian away from Hutch.
In fact, Boss has told Husband directly to be careful or he was going to take Wife away from him, and then pretends to be joking.

Although there's no confirmation, it appears that he enjoys the thrill of the chase and the power it gives him over the husbands, rather than it being a case of him wanting the wives to leave their husbands (no evidence either way, so that's just guesswork based on what little was said). The closest we've had was Christian asking Vivian to stay at the end of Ch2, which I took to mean "stay the night" but I suppose could have been a more long-term request.
That and his disgruntled remark and expression when he says,

I know-I know...Husband...noble sacrifice...I get it.

No this is not a fully satisfying situation for him, game or not. And if it is not a game, I would expect him to not need to be asked to be loving and gentle, and to take her to that fancy hotel rather than her driveway for sex.
 

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and don't you think Vi is turning his own guns against him - and telling him what he wants to hear ? Last exchange of words 2 parts?

One thing we know for sure - they will continue to maintain this marriage.
It is strange - but on the other hand.... Hutch doesn't know (probably) what we know. For him, everything still falls under the free pass
 

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and don't you think Vi is turning his own guns against him - and telling him what he wants to hear ? Last exchange of words 2 parts?

One thing we know for sure - they will continue to maintain this marriage.
It is strange - but on the other hand.... Hutch doesn't know (probably) what we know. For him, everything still falls under the free pass
I have thought that. The switch up when she goes from "don't" to "I belong to you" was a little too abrupt. Husband doesn't know about the escort, but he probably suspects given what he has actually seen and heard. The six times during the night in the Boss's bedroom was not under the free pass. The pass is more recent. I don't think that if he actually knew all that we know it would make much difference for him.

I don't know what Wife could actually achieve from turning the guns. Other than getting him to finish with her glorious orgasm by telling him she belongs to him. Could she take him to court and get a piece of the bizz? Could turning the guns help her put her life back together? I don't see it.
 

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He waited outside the hotel like a pimp.
Yes, there is no doubt that he knew what Reed's visit would end (or lead to). For some reason, he is allowing this game to go on. I don't think we know all the assets of this scenario yet, and all sorts of possibilities come to mind (from almost fantasy to pure hard-porn)
 

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I have thought that. The switch up when she goes from "don't" to "I belong to you" was a little too abrupt. Husband doesn't know about the escort, but he probably suspects given what he has actually seen and heard. The six times during the night in the Boss's bedroom was not under the free pass. The pass is more recent. I don't think that if he actually knew all that we know it would make much difference for him.

I don't know what Wife could actually achieve from turning the guns. Other than getting him to finish with her glorious orgasm by telling him she belongs to him. Could she take him to court and get a piece of the bizz? Could turning the guns help her put her life back together? I don't see it.

What is the reason that he accepts it ? He doesn't cradle his horse in the process like a racial cuck(mean - fap), he clearly doesn't want to watch these scenes. He knows or guesses the development/consequences of Vi/Chris' actions - it causes him some emotional pain/discomfort (we can't define it). For a reason unknown to us, he is reluctant to accept the developments.

Additionally - if he knew everything, would he react the same way ? Certain words that Vi says are beyond sexual fascination (I won't pretend you won, I'm with you; I have to tell him something)

There aren't many logical-normal reasons for his behavior. In fact, there is only one. He himself thinks the relationship is over (e.g., he has a lover, or recognizes that the relationship has burned out) and allows Vi to take her own path to happiness - he's bothered by the whole way things are going, but basically.... If the relationship is going to end anyway. Just maybe he is afraid that Vi will be screwed over and abandoned like Chris' other victims ?
 

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I don't know what Wife could actually achieve from turning the guns. Other than getting him to finish with her glorious orgasm by telling him she belongs to him. Could she take him to court and get a piece of the bizz? Could turning the guns help her put her life back together? I don't see it.

But maybe she realizes that she is just a moment for Chris (she talks about it with Sun) and that in some time he will throw her away like a used condom. I think we don't know all the circumstances yet and all motivations will come out in part 3 (and that's why SCS said part 2 and 3 should come out together).
 

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So, let's go back to where Wife storms in full of fury and Boss ends up asking her what she wants from him
She says, "I want you to be loving and gentle with me." She did not say loving sex, which is what Boss gives her. That is not quite the same thing.
Ms. Vivian seems to be suffering from a mental illness called bipolar disorder-this could explain a lot.

This illness leads to having two completely different personalities in fact she when is the teacher/goodwife does not remember what she does when she becomes a slut thirsty for being raped in extreme sex.

This would explain a lot bc she knows the casual dating bar... guys in my town not all bars are like the one where Sunshine seemed to be at her home.
It seems obvious to me that that bar is not a place everyone knows about...

That Ms. Vivian went there on purpose because she knew where she was going. And maybe it's not the first time she's been there.
I think Hutch knows something--because living with her for 20 years, he can't not know.
 

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What is the reason that he accepts it ? He doesn't cradle his horse in the process like a racial cuck(mean - fap), he clearly doesn't want to watch these scenes. He knows or guesses the development/consequences of Vi/Chris' actions - it causes him some emotional pain/discomfort (we can't define it). For a reason unknown to us, he is reluctant to accept the developments.
It pains him to see it. I don't think it is reluctance.

Additionally - if he knew everything, would he react the same way ? Certain words that Vi says are beyond sexual fascination (I won't pretend you won, I'm with you; I have to tell him something)
Her concessions, not more important that the sexual acts I think:
I won't continue to pretend I am not with you.
You won, you got what you have always wanted. (a tinge of resentment here. a tinge of acknowledgement of the possibility that this is a game for him)

Excuse for leaving:
I need to talk to him. It can't be said in a phone message.

I think she is still keeping her promise to come home at the end of the day. How long can she continue to do that? And if she does not, is that the end of the marriage?

There aren't many logical-normal reasons for his behavior. In fact, there is only one. He himself thinks the relationship is over (e.g., he has a lover, or recognizes that the relationship has burned out) and allows Vi to take her own path to happiness
Those are not convincing reasons for me. If one of them were true, he would not be asking her to always come home at the end of the day.

but basically.... If the relationship is going to end anyway. Just maybe he is afraid that Vi will be screwed over and abandoned like Chris' other victims ?
Absolutely. If he cares about her at all, he will fear this for her.
 
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I have thought that. The switch up when she goes from "don't" to "I belong to you" was a little too abrupt. Husband doesn't know about the escort, but he probably suspects given what he has actually seen and heard. The six times during the night in the Boss's bedroom was not under the free pass. The pass is more recent. I don't think that if he actually knew all that we know it would make much difference for him.

I don't know what Wife could actually achieve from turning the guns. Other than getting him to finish with her glorious orgasm by telling him she belongs to him. Could she take him to court and get a piece of the bizz? Could turning the guns help her put her life back together? I don't see it.
He also was at the window at his house when Christian was getting blown by his wife in the car on the driveway and it looked like he stared right at him, then hutchy walks away but he could have been getting his phone to record Vivian cheating on him again when she gets banged in the front seat with the open door and then in the back seat and in the trunk area, maybe we will see hutchy recording all this from his bedroom in the next update. And if he didn’t record it I’m sure one of his neighbors did :ROFLMAO:
 

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What is the reason that he accepts it ? He doesn't cradle his horse in the process like a racial cuck(mean - fap), he clearly doesn't want to watch these scenes. He knows or guesses the development/consequences of Vi/Chris' actions - it causes him some emotional pain/discomfort (we can't define it). For a reason unknown to us, he is reluctant to accept the developments.

Additionally - if he knew everything, would he react the same way ? Certain words that Vi says are beyond sexual fascination (I won't pretend you won, I'm with you; I have to tell him something)

There aren't many logical-normal reasons for his behavior. In fact, there is only one. He himself thinks the relationship is over (e.g., he has a lover, or recognizes that the relationship has burned out) and allows Vi to take her own path to happiness - he's bothered by the whole way things are going, but basically.... If the relationship is going to end anyway. Just maybe he is afraid that Vi will be screwed over and abandoned like Chris' other victims ?
The main reason I see now is that he sees what Vivian gets out of it and he (despite what's happened over the last few days) still deeply loves her - that's not a switch that he can just turn off after 22+ years. So it's not a position I have any personal experience or understanding of, but it seems to me that he loves her and wants her to have the thing that is (currently) giving her pleasure, even if it hurts him at the same time.

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Sunshine: “From what you told me, he's a good man stuck in an impossible situation."
Sunshine: “It takes an incredibly strong person to set aside jealousies and watch their partner take pleasure from another..."
 
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Those are not convincing reasons for me. If one of them were true, he would not be asking her to always come home at the end of the day.

You're right - so why allow it. Perhaps he thinks that it's like a storm, it will pass in a while and everything will get back on track, and he can calmly endure Vi's outings. Or there are other reasons. So far we haven't seen any neighbor, ba, hardly even an outsider.
Why ?
Maybe any of the unusual scenarios: - Vi's fidelity is the subject of a bet. Or - everything is an intrigue of Chris and friends (Mayor West&Billie Lou) and they play with our couple. Or - it's actually a kind of BiGBrother(Truman Show) - and Vi is the main unconscious actress and all the rest are playing their parts (that would explain the strange setting, + cinematic shots) or a version with death/borderline of dream and java/reality.

if it was only about holding - then one leak of CHris's recordings in which Vi gives herself to him on an emotional, mental level would be enough, and that would be enough.
 

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The main reason I see now is that he sees what Vivian gets out of it and he (despite what's happened over the last few days) still deeply loves her - that's not a switch that he can just turn off after 22+ years. So it's not a position I have any personal experience or understanding of, but it seems to me that he loves her and wants her to have the thing that is (currently) giving her pleasure, even if it hurts him at the same time.
I'm not entirely sure of this. It seems improbable.

Sunshine: “From what you told me, he's a good man stuck in an impossible situation."
Sunshine: “It takes an incredibly strong person to set aside jealousies and watch their partner take pleasure from another..."
God, yes. More than strong, I would say. Unless you are Sunshine and Rain. Otherwise, to do this without participation, and without jealousy seems almost superhuman. Even Sunshine confesses that there will always be some jealousy.

Hey wife, you are barking up the wrong man. You do know that you cannot see Boss as a long term prospect if he does not really love you. And you can be sure that you will not find another man who loves you like Husband does.
 

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The main reason I see now is that he sees what Vivian gets out of it and he (despite what's happened over the last few days) still deeply loves her - that's not a switch that he can just turn off after 22+ years. So it's not a position I have any personal experience or understanding of, but it seems to me that he loves her and wants her to have the thing that is (currently) giving her pleasure, even if it hurts him at the same time.

Code:
Sunshine: “From what you told me, he's a good man stuck in an impossible situation."
Sunshine: “It takes an incredibly strong person to set aside jealousies and watch their partner take pleasure from another..."

The problem is that Vi goes beyond mere sensations of physical pleasure - what happens, what she says in the last scene is a signal of emotional involvement. Even the fact that she returns - it seems, however, reluctantly, more out of a sense of loyalty and a relative honesty of “I can't text him in this situation.”


while I agree that Hutch's motivation may be precisely that he thinks they will weather this storm - because it's just a temporary sexual fascination. In this situation, Chris, as part of the rebuke, can bring everything down by sending him any of the videos in which Vi gives herself to him whole.
 

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The problem is that Vi goes beyond mere sensations of physical pleasure - what happens, what she says in the last scene is a signal of emotional involvement. Even the fact that she returns - it seems, however, reluctantly, more out of a sense of loyalty and a relative honesty of “I can't text him in this situation.”
You missed the caveats.
We will not mention the escort again
But remember...
I know-I know

I don't think a sense of loyalty would be sufficient to make her tell Boss that she can't stay. That in itself is a surprising ability to make up her mind and stick with it given her indecision otherwise. The cohesion between Husband and Wife is part of what makes this story so hard to imagine. I don't see those two breaking up, unless Boss finally convinces her to stay the night. And if it turns out Boss cannot break that bond, will he remain interested in her?

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while I agree that Hutch's motivation may be precisely that he thinks they will weather this storm - because it's just a temporary sexual fascination. In this situation, Chris, as part of the rebuke, can bring everything down by sending him any of the videos in which Vi gives herself to him whole.
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I don't see any reason to suspect that Husband thinks otherwise. The 6 time honeymoon session in Boss's bedroom crying out with pleasure all night long would be sufficient I think. Along with all the other times he witnesses. At boss's house where she went storming in and ends up arms and legs wrapped around him as he carries her up to bed. That would be a whole giving of self in my mind.
 
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