Lagunavii

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That's cute. Nice try.
Unfortunately, it's the truth of the society we live in. A woman can have sex every night if she wants to; she has to go out there and say yes. She can lower her standards, not take care of herself, and have zero conversation or wit. If she wants to get laid, she will. Men, on the other hand, have to take care of themselves; they need to have conversation, wit and game, and ultimately work really hard and even then its down to the choice of the woman if he's getting laid...

In laymans terms its easy for most woman to get it, its really hard for most men to get it. Hence why the woman gets a derogatory term and the male does not - its been like that forever and its not going to change anytime soon.
 

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is pleased that after the post-release stroke, the level of reviews is returning to normal. The game (story) is read by mature readers who can grasp its nuances....



a few observations to the material we have - in the go-go club Hutch is in a tie, and in a tie he primarily appears at work, in his free time he goes without. The exception is the Garden Party - but given that it's at the boss's place, and an official party (Chris also in a tie) it can be considered work (at least for Vi). At the same time - on the day of his disappearance (Sunday) he was dressed only in a T-shirt, that is, he met/ was in a place close to him (I assume), casual for him.
 
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I think the answer to two questions can define the whole story.

1. why there are always characters from one group around Vivian (background-observers) (who also appears at the Garden Party)

2. what is the reason that Hutch accepted Vivian's betrayal/cheating so easily/quickly

Unfortunately no

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Unfortunately, it's the truth of the society we live in. A woman can have sex every night if she wants to; she has to go out there and say yes. She can lower her standards, not take care of herself, and have zero conversation or wit. If she wants to get laid, she will. Men, on the other hand, have to take care of themselves; they need to have conversation, wit and game, and ultimately work really hard and even then its down to the choice of the woman if he's getting laid...

In laymans terms its easy for most woman to get it, its really hard for most men to get it. Hence why the woman gets a derogatory term and the male does not - its been like that forever and its not going to change anytime soon.
Been that way forever, not going to change. That is no excuse for us here not exercising a little more sympathy. I don't think that how easy it is for a woman to get laid means she can't be treated well. What i actually sort of hear above is how men resent how choosy women are. While men are not. Why can't women be more like us men, all we want is to get laid, without all the annoyances of how women are concerned about the consequences of sex for them, like pregnancy, like disrelpute if the word gets around, that while the man gets away scott free without any such complications.

For us here, my point had more to do with why Wife gets so roundly hated and Boss gets away with it, even though once in a while somebody mentions he is a twerp. Even the language is stacked against Wife. There is no word available that celebrates her sexual prowess, while Boss gets a litany to choose from. Boss is a Stud... Wife is a slut... No fair. I say.
 

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this is because it was men who defined what was right and what was wrong. That's the only reason why in the patriarchy a promiscuous woman is a slut and a man is a stallion

and there's really no need to flutter this topic around in circles. Thousands of years have built such a narrative....


I at the moment would consider Vi a 6lvl slut , but not a whore
Chris to double class stallion 10 lvl/motherfucker 20 lvl
 
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this is because it was men who defined what was right and what was wrong. That's the only reason why in the patriarchy a promiscuous woman is a slut and a man is a stallion

and there's really no need to flutter this topic around in circles. Thousands of years have built such a narrative....
Ok, let's treat Wife better.
 

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this is because it was men who defined what was right and what was wrong. That's the only reason why in the patriarchy a promiscuous woman is a slut and a man is a stallion



and there's really no need to flutter this topic around in circles. Thousands of years have built such a narrative....
Complete bs. Sorry Luc, don't contribute to this shit and level down the discourse. There is no patriarchy in the west for at least 50 years now. And women are the ones who critizise other women the most. If you don't want the discussion to derail here further don't feed this.
 

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Yes, we will not have such a discourse ( especially if by saying the West you mean the EU) because there is no point, this is not the place. But what is 50 years against 4 thousand years of civilization. We have such patterns written into our entire culture, and 50 years of feminism ( in different phases) will not change that.
 

noahsombrero

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Complete bs. Sorry Luc, don't contribute to this shit and level down the discourse. There is no patriarchy in the west for at least 50 years now. And women are the ones who critizise other women the most. If you don't want the discussion to derail here further don't feed this.
Yeh, hot political button. Sorry Wife it looks like your life is shit at this point.
 

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We have such patterns written into our entire culture, and 50 years of feminism ( in different phases) will not change that.
Let me just say, I respect your opinions regardless of me disagreeing with them. I just don't like to see this habit of male self-accusation and collective guilt.
 

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Yes, we will not have such a discourse ( especially if by saying the West you mean the EU) because there is no point, this is not the place. But what is 50 years against 4 thousand years of civilization. We have such patterns written into our entire culture, and 50 years of feminism ( in different phases) will not change that.
Including the structure of our languages. Certainly feminism is not going to change the structure of languages. But there remains much incensed discourse around those last 50 years. The interesting thing about feminism is how angry and hot buttony both sides are about the issue.
 
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noahsombrero

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Let me just say, I respect your opinions regardless of me disagreeing with them. I just don't like to see this habit of male self-accusation and collective guilt.
Right. Instead of that, how could things actually be better for women after suffering 4000 years of patriarchy? It could be that we simply have no idea as bound as we are by those 4000 years.
 

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There is really nothing to develop this discussion - there is a political thread for such considerations. Admittedly, controlled by angry MAGA :) so there is no chance for discourse either.
but STOP :)
 
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Fucking conversation has gone right off the rails here. Why we are on New Wave Feminism is absolutely beyond me and has fuck all to do with the game - The meaning you are finding in the game was not even there to be found.
Well - one could argue that the Sunshine-character embodies some of that.
 

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The level of discussion has really sunk on this thread with so many repeated ass-umptions and complete disregard to what’s actually in the story presented so far. It looks like a stubborn “Mexican” keeps spamming this thread until he’s blue in the face. So boring. I’m putting this on ‘Unwatch’ till the next update. I bet many others are just ignoring the new posts.
 
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