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the basic issues are still not clarified - and their explanation can overturn all theories. So let's wait for the 3rd part which should already explain something.
Everything is sealed and well written in any of the standalone chapters
The direction of the plot is already taken

I'm just waiting to know more why Vivian married a man that is a beta... and when and why and with whom she got those slutty tattoos
 

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I'm curious. What are the “weak parts” you're talking about?
Don't want to nitpick on that but I always said that I didn't like sunshine and rain episode - because it shifted the entire tone of the story (and derailed the thread but that's not relevant here). Nevertheless I'm still convinced of the quality of the game.
 
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Don't want to nitpick on that but I always said that I didn't like sunshine and rain episode - because it shifted the entire tone of the story (and derailed the thread but that's not relevant here). Nevertheless I'm still convinced of the quality of the game.
Very high quality. True the Sunshine episode shifted the tone of the story. It helped Wife understand herself, and us understand her, and showed how SC really sees her. All necessary to the game, I think. We need that understanding because it is all so unclear and confusing. But if you liked the game the way it was, reject the clarification, then there isn't much to be done about that. We sternly disagree. Chpt 3 will make things more unassailably clear.

As for me, I don't think it is legitimate to throw out a piece of the story that SC thinks we need to see, simply because you don't like how it changes things. Things are changed. You can not like that, but not ignore it.
 
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Actually, we should not be surprised. Wussification, slutification. These are things porn dogs come to see in various degrees and combinations. And they cry loudly if their hope is frustrated, by an opposing comment or a twist in the story that does not fit their hopes.
 

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Don't want to nitpick on that but I always said that I didn't like sunshine and rain episode - because it shifted the entire tone of the story (and derailed the thread but that's not relevant here). Nevertheless I'm still convinced of the quality of the game.
I'm happy you replay to me
You're welcome, and I agree with you... but if you think about it, Rebecca (alias Sunshine) is important to help us understand who Vivian is as a woman when her husband is away for work.

I assume that part also reveals what Vivian was like before Hutch... that's why I'm waiting to learn more about her.

The scene makes a lot of sense and begins on the morning when Hutch is out of town for work and she wakes up shocked because she had a dream in which there were.. Screenshot 2025-08-13 at 18.08.03.jpg .
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After she realizes that was a bad dream Screenshot 2025-08-13 at 18.09.05.jpg
AMAZING DIRECTOR!!!
The morning continues. She receives a phone call from Chris, then takes a shower, which tells us a little about the past of this magnificent human female.
When I talk about tattoos, many believe that they are done for fashion... They are not important...
THAT IS NOT TRUE!... EVERY SINGLE FUCKING PIXEL IS IMPORTANT IN THIS STORY!! :cool:
A tattoo tells an important story about your life; it is something you will carry with you forever... and tattoos fade over time, and if, as I believe, the tattoos Vivian has were done more than 20 years ago, she takes care of them... they are not blurred... they are well-maintained tattoos.
If they weren't important tattoos, she would have had them removed.

But let's continue with the day of this wonderful human female who is at home without her husband returning for the night... remember, he is out of town trying to close the deal with Mr. Reese.
Vivian lies down on the sofa with the TV on and falls asleep... but is awakened by the commercials... Damn, commercials on TV always wake me up too. Screenshot 2025-08-13 at 18.11.16.jpg
Fucking commercials :mad: Screenshot 2025-08-13 at 18.11.28.jpg
Vivian starts thinking and talking to herself
At this point, the beautiful Vivian gets up from the sofa and changes her clothes... in a sparkling gold see-through dress.
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It's clear that Hutch's wife had some bizarre habits before she married Hutch, and the fact that she takes off her wedding ring is a symbol that tells us something about how Vivian spent her evenings before she married her beta husband. Screenshot 2025-08-13 at 18.48.01.jpg
I admire how this developer is making me imagine things about this beautiful girl using only images, facial expressions, and the sequence of images. This is what I imagined while watching and rewatching the wonderful scenes he created.

Maybe this is the bar she used to go to before getting her teaching degree?
I say this because a guy arrives who she thinks wants to approach her to chat and spend the evening with her, but 20 years have passed and he sneers at her because he thinks she's too old for him... stupid idiot, he missed a great opportunity. Screenshot 2025-08-13 at 18.48.22.jpg
She smiles invitingly at him as if to say: Here I am, you can sit here, let's have a drink, and then I'll let you fuck me because I'm not even wearing panties. Screenshot 2025-08-13 at 18.49.39.jpg Screenshot 2025-08-13 at 18.48.26.jpg
He laughs in her face, humiliating her... but this guy humiliates himself and is the only real loser idiot in that bar.
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Sunshine is a brilliant idea by the author, who has found a way to tell us (I suppose) or at least give us an idea of what Vivian was like before her marriage. If the author had made Vivian fuck the first stranger guy she met, it would have been truly horrible...
instead, he found a way to avoid making a scene that could have become very vulgar by immediately making it clear that Vivian's job before she got married was to work as a prostitute in bars.

So the scene with Sunshine's arrival eliminates any awkwardness and is a pretext to get to know Vivian better and her way of life as an independent and freedom-loving woman. But I think it will be very difficult to see Sunshine again in the story...
I understand that this will be a blow to those who like to see lesbians fucking...
And if you look closely, Sunshine is not a lesbian at all... She has an open relationship with her husband... I'm sure Sunshine is fucking a bunch of men right now and her cuckold husband is participating in enlarging all her holes:devilish:
This is not Sunshine movie...
This is Vivian, Hutch and Christian's movie...
The others are all side characters and many will only appear in a single scene.
Secondary characters must serve to help us understand more about the lives of the protagonists. Otherwise, side characters would be useless and the author would be forced to write tons of text to help us understand the personalities and pasts of the protagonists.
 
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As for me, I don't think it is legitimate to throw out a piece of the story that SC thinks we need to see, simply because you don't like how it changes things. Things are changed. You can not like that, but not ignore it.
Ignoring? I guess you wouldn't be able to perceive the change I'm talking about and talked about it earlier. And you still haven't looked back into the thread before your time otherwise you wouldn't be so coompletely clueless about the opinions and views of the people you keep attacking.
 
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The only thing is not very good in the scene with Sunshine is that Vivian seems unaware of the purpose of an enema, which is truly inconceivable for a 45-year-old mother. Eliminating this small point, even the fact that she knows it is used to prepare the anus to be clean for anal sex is interesting... this could tell us that Vivian has never had anal sex... mmm, this also seems unlikely for a 45-year-old and super hot woman.
 
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Ignoring? I guess you wouldn't be able to perceive the change I'm talking about and talked about it earlier. And you still haven't looked back into the thread before your time otherwise you wouldn't be so coompletely clueless about the opinions and views of the people you keep attacking.
Let's see, I arrived in a very hailstorm of hatred for Wife and women in general. Women are not capable of rationality, etc. Things are much better now, even if the impulse remains. So why don't you tell me what you don't like about the new tone of the story? And whether it is legitimate for SC to impose that tone? And whether your choice is to go away or continue reading, because neither of us knows what magic SC will be pulling out of his hat next?
 
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Let's see, I arrived in a very hailstorm of hatred for Wife and women in general. Women are not capable of rationality, etc. Things are much better now, even if the impulse remains. So why don't you tell me what you don't like about the new tone of the story? And whether it is legitimate for SC to impose that tone? And whether you choice is to go away or continue reading, because neither of us knows what magic SC will be pulling out of his hat next.
Don't know whom you mean with the hailstorm, I was never a part of it. Also, as you know, I wouldn't use the term hatred at all here, bcause that's the only thing which brings hatred in the end.
Ch 1 was about a couple crumbling under external pressure - interesting topic especially for a porn story. The wife is seen in terms of her agency is seen in terms of defending her interests and trying to be strong - and I was one of those who interpreted it in such a way and wrote about it. I also argued not to define her by her sexuality. Ch 2 in terms of sunshine is in danger to transform the story into one about a sexually frustrated housewife who is justified in finding love elswhere - well trodden trope among porn games. The wife is now defined by her sexual desire, by her boredom and by her relationship to men. She follows desires and conflicting impulses and doesn't know what to do as you out of all people keep stressing and repeating. Where is the rationality there? The irony is, that the persona of the wife in the sunshine episode you think is so progressive and liberating is much more "misogynistic" (in your terms) if you think about it. Prime motivator as in most games here is her lust after having sex once with the alpha - great and compllex character, isn't it? And so original. And to be clear I'm not saying this about the dev but about you laying such a weight on that episode.
 
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Don't know whom you mean with the hailstorm, I was never a part of it. Also, as you know, I wouldn't use the term hatred at all here, bcause that's the only thing which brings hatred in the end.
Ch 1 was about a couple crumbling under external pressure - interesting topic especially for a porn story. The wife is seen in terms of her agency is seen in terms of defending her interests and trying to be strong - and I was one of those who interpreted it in such a way and wrote about it. I also argued not to define her by her sexuality. Ch 2 in terms of sunshine is in danger to transform the story into one about a sexually frustrated housewife who is justified in finding love elswhere - well trodden trope among porn games. The wife is now defined by her sexual desire, by her boredom and by her relationship to men. She follows desires and conflicting impulses and doesn't know what to do as you out of all people keep stressing and repeating. Where is the rationality there? The irony is, that the persona of the wife in the sunshine episode you think is so progressive and liberating is much more "misogynistic" (in your terms) if you think about it. Prime motivator as in most games here is her lust after having sex once with the alpha - great and compllex character, isn't it? And so original. And to be clear I'm not saying this about the dev but about you laying such a weight on that episode.
Ok, so what you describe is the way the dev has chosen for the game to go. That is not ok with you. Now what?

My interpretation of what happened in the Sunshine episode is sternly different from yours, as it is with others about other issues here. I suggest we be quiet and let SC tell us what is really going on.
 

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Don't know if this thought was said, probably was this thread is fucking long. Chapter 3 will be the flipside of chapter 2. Hutch and Christian on a trip together. There was definitely shenanigans(such a awesome word).
 

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Don't know if this thought was said, probably was this thread is fucking long. Chapter 3 will be the flipside of chapter 2. Hutch and Christian on a trip together. There was definitely shenanigans(such a awesome word).
I think the rapist was on that trip too, when they went to strip clubs and he met hutchy there but held out on signing the deal cause he wanted the cherry on top which is what Christian called “Vivian”
 

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I think the rapist was on that trip too, when they went to strip clubs and he met hutchy there but held out on signing the deal cause he wanted the cherry on top which is what Christian called “Vivian”
Ok, Wife, do you accept this or not?

Unless tis is the exact same story as chpt 2, but told from Husband's point of view. So then, the question is, Husband are you ready to do something about this?
 
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Hi 7767 - any chance you have a Patreon? I really enjoyed the first two chapters and would like to contribute.
 

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One could almost get the impression that people are not here at all to watch porn but either to cheer on a wronged husband and see his revenge or to cheer on the wife and to see a cheater transforming herself into the heroine of all frustrated housewives. I'm honest enough to say: I'm interested in a porn story (stress on both components), but one which is as good as possible - and that is not easy to produce, a lot less easy than to follow ideological narratives. And I admit: repetition is probably the biggest aesthetic problem of constructing a good porn story. Because with sex of course its always about repetition, how could it not? A good coomposer has to be able to write 100 variations on a well known tune. One means to do that is to use emotional stakes and, yes, moral stakes as well, but always as means to the end of makiing the story erotically more exciting. That seems to get out of sight here more and more.
I would definitely like to see both Christian and Vivian suffer for how they treated Hutch, and it would not need to be something violent. Seeing them both humiliated, and Hutch moving on with Addison, or some good woman, would be justice enough for me. Addison's model is very hot, and I think there could be some good porn scenes with her. I really like the way she looks with that black lipstick. Just a personal preference.
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Despite my wanting Christian and Vivian to get their comeuppance, including seeing Hutch pound Addison, (very unlikely I know) Hutch's passivity still makes me angry. I do grant we don't have the full picture, and SC Stories could surprise us with Hutch, but for now his apparent weakness is infuriating.

With all of the above being said, I don't like the story or follow it because I want Christian and Vivian to pay for how terrible they treated Hutch. I like the story because I am enjoying the drama. I particularly enjoy the complex (conflicting) emotions and relationships in the story, even though I don't like the main characters themselves. When I say I don't like the characters, I am not saying they are bad CHARACTERS, I am saying I don't think they would make good PEOPLE if they were real. There are people on this thread who seem to think that if you don't like the characters in a story, then you necessarily don't like the story, but that obviously does not have to be the case. As I am sure you know, people enjoy various works of entertainment for a variety of reasons. I enjoy Exciting Games very much BECAUSE I like the main characters. I don't enjoy it for the little bit of drama that is in it so far, and I have little interest in that little bit of drama as it unfolds. I enjoy My Husband's Boss for the EXACT OPPOSITE reasons.
 

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with Hutch, but for now his apparent weakness is infuriating.
For me it is puzzling. I don't think any husband alive would sit outside a bedroom door and listen to his wife have sex. Go get in your car, slam the door. and drive to Topeka. That would make sense emotionally (depending on the person). I also don't think any wife alive would go into that bedroom and have noisy sex with her husband in the next room. Not unless they were into that, which it appears neither of them are.

It might simply be that SC does not consider the possible reality of these events essential to the story he wants to tell. Maybe. Husband's wussiness and Wife's sluttiness are beside the point, which we are far from seeing right now.

It seems often forgotten that Husband will move to defend Wife if she is resisting. That happened in the bathroom scene. Husband was on his way to help her until he saw that she was giving in. If she is willing, there is no sense intervening.
 
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Hi 7767 - any chance you have a Patreon? I really enjoyed the first two chapters and would like to contribute.
No, dev does not have a Patreon or any other support platform. The game is offered here for free and produced as a hobby.
 

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I love Vivian's inner dialog. And I want something different from a story as well written but typical for the genre. I want an explosive destructive end. All the stories I have been following have characters doing the most immoral wrong headed things and yet all the dilemma's they run into seem anti-climate considering the profound mental and physical damage they caused themselves or others. I want a violent resolution or a profoundly life altering situation for our protagonist. Frankly she needs to end up in a whored-out lifestyle, owned and/or passed around and/or Hutch needs some sort of powerfull revenge to shake the story up. That would makes it different. Maybe even neo-noir like. Then Vivian's inner dialog would get really fascinating rather then just pro-forma-"I do the wrong things",why do I do the wrong things?", "I wont do the wrong thing again" and then "I can't help myself" and she does it -whatever- again. She just digs the hole deeper not in a journey self discovery but of self destruction for herself or those around her.
 
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