Wrong thing for the right reason. Maybe the first time of the 8 that night. But still, she is only free to walk away after that if she wants to. But that is not what she wants. She also does not want the inevitable consequence of continuing to fuck Boss.
It's really not anymore though. It MIGHT have started that way. With her acting purely trying to save Hutchs job for the money situation. So yeah, she WAS a victim if you believe that. But it's pretty clear that right now as of the last chapter, if you just look at her actions, and listen to her own words about the situation. She is 100% only doing this for her own selfish reasons and desires. She's in "lust" with Christian, and doesn't want to give it up. Plain and simple really.
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I have no idea wtf you're talking about NGL...
Yes, as has been stated. That MIGHT have been why she started doing what she did. But it's clear if you're paying attention to her actions or even just listening to her dude. Money is NOT a factor for her, at least not anymore. She's clearly doing this now, because it feels good for her. Because she's enjoying the sex with Christian, and she doesn't want to let it go.
Look, that's where we disagree, pretty simple.No. it's because she likes to fuck Christian. Pretty simple
While I agree, there is no force; there is intimidation. The whole point of the dinner was for the couple to explain their ideas that were going to save Hutch's job, now technically the job hasn't actually been threatened here - it's just in the couple's head, but they think they need to express these ideas to Christian - the boss runs with this and says okay, because he sees the prize of Vivian - even going as far as to say no Vivian, No dinner - again while he hasnt at this point threatened the job, he knows what both Hutch and Vivian are thinking this dinner is a their only chance and is threatening that. Christian then tells Hutch not to bring Vivian, knowing full well she will fight to go, given what Christian told her before she even says it herself, "Something isn't right, he sent me this dress and then told me not to come. He's playing some kind of game, testing me" at this point through she feels she has no choice but to wear the dress thanks to the Manipulations by Christian
I see it as you do, but I disagree that it is simple.Yes, as has been stated. That MIGHT have been why she started doing what she did. But it's clear if you're paying attention to her actions or even just listening to her dude. Money is NOT a factor for her, at least not anymore. She's clearly doing this now, because it feels good for her. Because she's enjoying the sex with Christian, and she doesn't want to let it go.
Not because of some fucking, sexual/money power combo thing.
No. it's because she likes to fuck Christian. Pretty simple
Oh, I agree I was just pointing out that Vivian didnt exactly prostitute herself, Christian extorted her into a position he wanted - I never meant that Vivian is the victim here in terms of the whole story - Just that particular scene
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What doyou mean it’s only prostitution if she’s in the street stopping cars for sexual favors?
got news for you, it don’t matter where the ho gets fucked, if you paid for sex, she’s a prostitute, if she fucks for free she’s just a slut
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Okay this will be my last post to you, as I'm not having this turn into some fucking StanfordXSombrero stupid shit, with just pages of BS back and forth for people to have to read or skip.
Thanks for confirming you either didn't play CH2 or have forgotten all of it, and are just going with your CH1 information.
Ah, classic tactics here I see. "Im not deluded about this woman, YOU ARE..."
I don't know if you mean that in terms of law. I certainly doubt I jury or a judge would see it that way. In terms of law it's more a question if the boss could have fired Hutch or not. If he lawfully could have, you could see his offer even as a way out of something which would have happened anyway, and that is certainly how the wife saw it the evening before when she heard from Hutch. I see here a deal, not a victim.
Are you out of your mind?Hamroll...
That would require hitting bottom, like Boss dumping her after loosing Husband. Before that, rationalizations are so easy to do.
The boss probably couldn't have fired Hutch here - I'm sure refusal to stay at the boss's house is grounds for unfair dismissal, but remember the boss knows that Vivian and Hutch both think the job is on the line. It's even brought up in chapter 2 when they discuss what was said in the garden - Christian implied people would lose their jobs. - yeah, you're right in arguing there dwal there, but she's being manipulated and extorted into taking it
I didn't say it was prostitution although people are free to interpret it as such if they wish.
