VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [Ch.2] [SC Stories]

[noahsombrero]

1.She can offer me what you can't.
She gives you rusty trombone and I will not.
2.I didn't want to hurt you.
That didn't stop you though.
3.She loves me.
So did I until I found out what ass you are.
4.I still love you though.
Stick that where the sun doesn't shine.

Your shit is on the porch. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

 

[Senor Smut]

Someting like the classic lines of the cheating husband. Except nobody calls him a whore. Stud maybe.
As he brags about his conquests to his drinking buddies at his favorite bar.

Years ago a buddy of mine cheated on his wife and the whole friend group (all guys) shunned him. Turns out we all liked and (more importantly) respected her a hell of a lot more than we did him.

 

[Dealbreaker]

Years ago a buddy of mine cheated on his wife and the whole friend group (all guys) shunned him. Turns out we all liked and (more importantly) respected her a hell of a lot more than we did him.

Strange to hear that you like the wifes of your friends more than your friends. But what does that have to do with this game though?

 

[Don't Ask ME]

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I'll give you this recent render simply because you won't be able to figure out the context, and I find it funny thinking about what you guys might say.

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This one doesn't really give much away, there are a couple sneaks from this evening's 'garden party' already out there. I just like the composition of it. The emotion of it.

On that note, every sneak peak that is already out there is included in this next chapter. The red dress, the garden party, cigarette smoking man... everything not tied to Ch1 or Ch2 is in this next chapter. Maybe someone can repost the full collection for the newer members of the thread who haven't seen all my posts or missed the sneak peaks at the end of Ch1 after I removed them. Also, let me clarify when I said I was removing some content. Characters already written into the story are part of the story and those arcs will be completed. I don't want really want to say more than that for fear of creating new controversies.

Till next time...

I sense something interesting is about to happen.

 

[Senor Smut]

Strange to hear that you like the wifes of your friends more than your friends. But what does that have to do with this game though?

Exactly as much as your original statement did.

 

[Dealbreaker]

Exactly as much as your original statement did.

What statement? I didn't make one.

 

[DarkArchon]

Strange to hear that you like the wifes of your friends more than your friends. But what does that have to do with this game though?

I think the point was that they lost respect for their friend, who was a man, for cheating, but still respected his wife, a woman, who did not cheat. I think Senor Smut is responding to those on this thread who accuse those of us who don't approve of Vivian's behavior of being sexists because she is a woman. With Senor Smut, he and his friends, did not let their buddy off the hook for cheating on his wife because their buddy was a man which they would have if they used a double standard and they were sexists.

 

[Dealbreaker]

I think the point was that they lost respect for their friend, who was a man, for cheating, but still respected his wife, a woman, who did not cheat. I think Senor Smut is responding to those on this thread who accuse those of us who don't approve of Vivian's behavior of being sexists because she is a woman. With Senor Smut, he and his friends, did not let their buddy off the hook for cheating on his wife because their buddy was a man which they would have if they used a double standard and they were sexists.

If he would have had a single shred of respect towards his "buddy" (let alone friendship) BEFORE the cheating, he would have told him in private that he disapproved instead of collective shaming. You don'T abandon a true friend because of one mistake. He gives no principled reason but even says he liked the wife more - this is taking sides instead of principles. You don't in my opinion battle the sexism-accusation by emotional virtue signalling. The double standard trope has been brought up at severeal occasions in this thread but with no evidence whatsoever. Nobody in this thread ever argued that male cheating was ok and that Vivian was at fault because she is a woman. But I can see your point that it has to be argued against, but this is not the way in my opinion.

 

[DarkArchon]

If he would have had a single shred of respect towards his "buddy" (let alone friendship) BEFORE the cheating, he would have told him in private that he disapproved instead of collective shaming. You don'T abandon a true friend because of one mistake. He gives no principled reason but even says he liked the wife more - this is taking sides instead of principles. You don't in my opinion battle the sexism-accusation by emotional virtue signalling. The double standard trope has been brought up at severeal occasions in this thread but with no evidence whatsoever. Nobody in this thread ever argued that male cheating was ok and that Vivian was at fault because she is a woman. But I can see your point that it has to be argued against, but this is not the way in my opinion.

I am not sure if he and his friends knew their buddy was going to cheat ahead of time. Senor Smut was responding to noahsombrero, and I have noah on ignore, so you have more insight into what Senor Smut was responding to than I do. I only saw the response. In the over 560 pages of comments on this thread, I have seen a couple of posts, maybe 2 or at most 3, that did imply that it was more OK for a man to cheat than a woman, but I would have search pretty hard to find them. That definitely is not the case for most people commenting here. There does seem to be a particular poster who seems to be very angry at women in general, but he does not justify men cheating over women cheating. I definitely agree with you that if you see a friend about to screw up, you should try to get them change course. I also agree if they do mess up, depending on how bad it is, you should try to help them fix things, and patch things up.

 

[Dealbreaker]

I am not sure if he and his friends knew their buddy was going to cheat ahead of time.

What I meant here (sometimes I see my limits as non-native speaker) is that how they react towards their friend afterwards shows in my opinion that they didn't have that much respect for him already before. If they had, they would have handled it differently after the fact. More to our general point of discussion here: you can't give women respect by simultaneously taking it away from men and especially your friend. If you do, you are taking sides just in order to prove that you are a virtuous ally and all to eager to be seen as standing on the good side. I wouldn't expect that from female friends of female cheaterrs either that they just distance themselves from their friends emotionally and just like that go over to the male victim. They should direct, give advice and influence them and if necessary, dependent on long term behavior, draw their conclusions.

In the over 560 pages of comments on this thread, I have seen a couple of posts, maybe 2 or at most 3, that did imply that it was more OK for a man to cheat than a woman, but I would have search pretty hard to find them. That definitely is not the case for most people commenting here. There does seem to be a particular poster who seems to be very angry at women in general, but he does not justify men cheating over women cheating. I definitely agree with you that if you see a friend about to screw up, you should try to get them change course. I also agree if they do mess up, depending on how bad it is, you should try to help them fix things, and patch things.

Here we agree on everything. Regarding the discussion here about the game I'm totally prepared to talk about unfair male perceptions but I wouldn't search so much for double standards but for blind spots in that regard - maybe we don't take into account specific female needs enough be because we have different ones and maybe we react (I for sure) too irritated and harsh to female emotions we regard as irrational? This is a big part of how we see Vivian, I think. The problem could be equal standard, not double standard.

 

[Adhdclassic]

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I'll give you this recent render simply because you won't be able to figure out the context, and I find it funny thinking about what you guys might say.

View attachment 5170322
This one doesn't really give much away, there are a couple sneaks from this evening's 'garden party' already out there. I just like the composition of it. The emotion of it.

On that note, every sneak peak that is already out there is included in this next chapter. The red dress, the garden party, cigarette smoking man... everything not tied to Ch1 or Ch2 is in this next chapter. Maybe someone can repost the full collection for the newer members of the thread who haven't seen all my posts or missed the sneak peaks at the end of Ch1 after I removed them. Also, let me clarify when I said I was removing some content. Characters already written into the story are part of the story and those arcs will be completed. I don't want really want to say more than that for fear of creating new controversies.

Till next time...

Feeling comical.

Pic 1- Bitch you were with him for 3 hours you $100 short. Where my money hoe.

Pic 2- Honey I am going to lean on you for a bit my legs are jello.

 

[88stanford88]

I'll give you this recent render simply because you won't be able to figure out the context, and I find it funny thinking about what you guys might say.

It's very difficult to understand the context in this photo, but I'll give it a try:
it could be set in an office, and the fact that Chris is grabbing Vivian by the neck (and quite forcefully at that) makes me think that there could be an escalation in the dominant relationship between the alpha male and the animalistic femininity that lives inside Vivian soul.

This one doesn't really give much away, there are a couple sneaks from this evening's 'garden party' already out there. I just like the composition of it. The emotion of it.

In this photo, however, it's easier to make assumptions... Vivian is dressed for an elegant evening, and Hutch has his usual subdued appearance, as if he were Vivian's son whining,:
“Mom, (cry) I didn't want to come to this party. Why did you make me come?”

And Vivian replies, “ Dear babe boy, I made you come here so you could see how to fuck a real woman like me... watch and learn.”
(she is a sex educational teacher for her hubby )

Just my 2 cents

 

[noahsombrero]

I think the point was that they lost respect for their friend, who was a man, for cheating, but still respected his wife, a woman, who did not cheat. I think Senor Smut is responding to those on this thread who accuse those of us who don't approve of Vivian's behavior of being sexists because she is a woman. With Senor Smut, he and his friends, did not let their buddy off the hook for cheating on his wife because their buddy was a man which they would have if they used a double standard and they were sexists.

Good point. But still there is the pattern. Cheating wives are whores and cheating husbands are studs. Depending on who you like. It appears that Wife not likeable. That must be it. The situations are different though. Your rl situation is about real people whom you can like or respect. None of that applies to pixel images on your monitor. This is simply a story that SC wants to tell. I think the reason for the unreality of the characters and the timescale mean that SC thinks those are throwaway circumstances. The important thing is what he wants to say. Pay attention.

 

[noahsombrero]

My original post goes back to this from slowburn

Can't wait to see which chapter Vivian uses the classic cheating wife lines on Hutch.
1.He can offer me what you can't.
2.I didn't want to hurt you.
3.He loves me.
4.I still love you though.

Notice this is an invitation to laugh at disgusting cheating wives. No mention is made that cheating husbands might also be disgusting. This is a continuous pattern throughout this thread. When I mention it, the defenders of this attitude pop up and say everybody knows we don't like cheating husbands.

What I did was provide the missing part where cheating husbands are also laughably disgusting. Or not depending on whom you like:

1.She can offer me what you can't.
She gives you rusty trombone and I will not.
2.I didn't want to hurt you.
That didn't stop you though.
3.She loves me.
So did I until I found out what ass you are.
4.I still love you though.
Stick that where the sun doesn't shine.

Your shit is on the porch. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

I see DA says he has blocked me. If he can't bear to read the above, it says volumes about him. I will withhold what I would like to say, moderators would be unhappy.

 

[Adhdclassic]

My original post goes back to this from slowburn


Notice this is an invitation to laugh at disgusting cheating wives. No mention is made that cheating husbands might also be disgusting. This is a continuous pattern throughout this thread. When I mention it, the defenders of this attitude pop up and say everybody knows we don't like cheating husbands.

What I did was provide the missing part where cheating husbands are also laughably disgusting. Or not depending on whom you like:


I see DA says he has blocked me. If he can't bear to read the above, it says volumes about him. I will withhold what I would like to say, moderators would be unhappy.

I actually said that because it pertained to the story. I am sure there is a male version of it. But it would not make sense because the man is not cheating the woman is.

 

[noahsombrero]

I actually said that because it pertained to the story. I am sure there is a male version of it. But it would not make sense because the man is not cheating the woman is.

Thanks for you intelligent reply.

Understood.

On the lowest level we have this:
The continual refusal to see any redeeming characters in Wife at all, to mock her and wish to see her degraded. The comparison f95 gives us is to harem porn where guys collect all various fuck buddies with impunity. I get it, this is pornland. But the comparison is jarring. Wife is despicable and harem masters are not. Are there any ntr games where a man cheats on a wife or girlfriend and suffers degradation from players as a consequence? Does anybody bother to hate such men images on their monitor? In this game, SC gives players no choice where most other porn games do allow players to not see certain things. SC does say much will be explained later. Right now we know that, chpt 3 & 2 were really meant to be combined so Husband would not appear such a wuss and Wife such a slut, one assumes. We really don't know do we? But still we get the ranters, on and on, hoping to see Wife say classical cheating wife things, etc. What SC has in mind seems to make no impression on many players. They simply must have their jollies.

Upper levels look more like this:

A rl cheating situation would be about real people whom you can like or respect. Some might even say that we should not be taking sides, there must be more to their story than we know. None of that applies to pixel images on your monitor. This is simply a story that SC wants to tell. I think the reason for the unreality of the characters and the timescale mean that SC thinks those are throwaway circumstances. The important thing is what he wants to say. Pay attention, he is really just getting started.

 

[Senor Smut]

I think the point was that they lost respect for their friend, who was a man, for cheating, but still respected his wife, a woman, who did not cheat. I think Senor Smut is responding to those on this thread who accuse those of us who don't approve of Vivian's behavior of being sexists because she is a woman. With Senor Smut, he and his friends, did not let their buddy off the hook for cheating on his wife because their buddy was a man which they would have if they used a double standard and they were sexists.

Exactly right. I don't condemn everyone who cheats in a relationship because people are complicated, messy creatures, and when you put two of us together then nobody who's not in that particular relationship can really understand what it's like. In my former friend's case, he was always kind of a jackass who liked to shoot his mouth off -- we all liked him because he was funny (often unintentionally) and was fun to be around. His wife was (and is) a phenomenal human being whom we all admired for who she was, how she carried herself, and what she did. She was (and is) smarter than our ex-friend, funnier than our ex-friend, more responsible, kinder, more generous, harder-working, vastly better looking -- their relationship was really like a shitty sitcom setup where the wonderful woman is married to the horrible schlub. My ex-friend cheated with the babysitter (statutory rape, because she was a year underage, but he was never charged) and then bragged about it to us. We all told him off pretty hard, and the next day while we were trying to decide whether to tell his wife (the question was not whether we were willing, but whether she would believe us or welcome the information) the babysitter came clean to the wife. When the dust settled we were all still friends with the wife and none of us were even speaking to her ex-husband.

Now, with this game, Vivian is horrible. She's not horrible because she cheats, she's horrible because of how she absolutely revels in humiliating her kind husband but still has the audacity to think that she's a virtuous person. She claims she loves her husband when in fact she scorns him and doesn't care the least little bit about his feelings. She resists his bargain-basement-Ted-Bundy boss for a nanosecond and then gleefully throws herself into being his whore in a fashion guaranteed to break the spirit of her husband, who apparently has never done anything but love her. Her lust doesn't damn her, but her reaction to it does.

The boss is a standard-issue sociopath doing what standard-issue sociopaths do, but she's the one who makes the choice to hurl herself into his sociopathy at the first opportunity and revel in her cruelty to her husband. They're both awful human beings.

 

[Senor Smut]

What statement? I didn't make one.

Dude...my God, I quoted your statement in my reply.

 

[noahsombrero]

people are complicated, messy creatures, and when you put two of us together then nobody who's not in that particular relationship can really understand what it's like.

Hooray, somebody said it.

 

[Dealbreaker]

Dude...my God, I quoted your statement in my reply.

Are you stupid? You wrote "original statement" - meaning the statement you reacted to. That wasn't mine. You reacted to Sombrero. I reacted to your reaction. Such stupidity makes me angry. Just say you made an error.