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Hattyrulz

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I think that it means if the missing box is significant that Hutch knows that Christian sent her the dress before the dinner and was yet another thing that Vivian hasn't told him about.
yes thats the thing... the dev keeps proping up that christian is the alpha and hutch the beta .... but in accordance to pgl how can hutch get vivian .... so there might be a story there.
 

Hattyrulz

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DEV seems to want do something different. Can't do something like this if the antagonist is the same as all others. He needs to be different.
thats the thing with this vn the more you play it the more amzing the devs talent is i feel. and he did say that he did it alone... so even more impresed by that work.
 
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Guszti242

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)Vivien nemcsak Christiannal fog szexelni, hanem mindenkivel, akivel üzletel. Ha megnézi a 2 frissítést, tudni fogja, mire számíthat a következő frissítésben. És itt Vivien tudja, hogy Christiannak nincs szüksége rá csak az üzlet miatt. Szerintem Mc nagyobb Alfa lesz, mint Christian.
 

Hattyrulz

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)Vivien nemcsak Christiannal fog szexelni, hanem mindenkivel, akivel üzletel. Ha megnézi a 2 frissítést, tudni fogja, mire számíthat a következő frissítésben. És itt Vivien tudja, hogy Christiannak nincs szüksége rá csak az üzlet miatt. Szerintem Mc nagyobb Alfa lesz, mint Christian.
that is my nightmare theory .... as i have written... mc becomes the alpha and the bad guy and christian become the comfort for vivian.
 

Hattyrulz

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)Christian nem lesz a vigasztaló, ez a pár most fedezi fel új szexuális életét, és van egy gyanúm, hogy Christian szakmailag és érzelmileg is tönkremegy. Mc miatt Mc megszerzi Meddisont is Christiantól
thats one ending i would like to see in this novel. but it will change the theme to happy harem ending which this vn is not. the dev specifically stated at the start of the vn.
 
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Aimless44

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One of the things that strongly makes me want to dislike Vivian's character is the way she interacts with Christian in non-sexual scenes. She is instantly familiar with him, telling him intimate details of her sex life with Hutch immediately upon their first phone conversation. You would think that Christian would be viewed by her as the primary source of her problems. But she talks to him as if he is an ally in what she seems to think her problem is, namely her communication and relationship with Hutch. And she trusts Christian's opinion on what needs to be done rather than her husband's.

Granted, Hutch doesn't seem to be very long on advice in this story so far so I'd say there's room for some forgiveness there.

I suppose a lot of that could be chalked up to the idea that she doesn't really know what her problem is and these new physical urges are clouding her thoughts too much. Assuming of course that these urges are NEW.

There's still room for redemption for Vivian, depending on what the updates reveal. But watching her try to reassure Hutch multiple times that she is there to listen to him, when almost the entire issue of the tension of the story is a result of things she hasn't told him, kind of makes me feel she deserves whatever's coming.

So for now when I re-watch the scene in the kitchen where Christian teaches her how to deepthroat, I'm not really feeling any pangs of sympathy for her.

Plenty of other pangs though...
 

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One of the things that strongly makes me want to dislike Vivian's character is the way she interacts with Christian in non-sexual scenes. She is instantly familiar with him, telling him intimate details of her sex life with Hutch immediately upon their first phone conversation. You would think that Christian would be viewed by her as the primary source of her problems. But she talks to him as if he is an ally in what she seems to think her problem is, namely her communication and relationship with Hutch. And she trusts Christian's opinion on what needs to be done rather than her husband's.

Granted, Hutch doesn't seem to be very long on advice in this story so far so I'd say there's room for some forgiveness there.

I suppose a lot of that could be chalked up to the idea that she doesn't really know what her problem is and these new physical urges are clouding her thoughts too much. Assuming of course that these urges are NEW.

There's still room for redemption for Vivian, depending on what the updates reveal. But watching her try to reassure Hutch multiple times that she is there to listen to him, when almost the entire issue of the tension of the story is a result of things she hasn't told him, kind of makes me feel she deserves whatever's coming.

So for now when I re-watch the scene in the kitchen where Christian teaches her how to deepthroat, I'm not really feeling any pangs of sympathy for her.

Plenty of other pangs though...













you're right brother, everything is perfect, Vivian is a very bad character, Christian and Hutch are nicer than her, my favorite ending, Hutch with Addison, Christian who finds himself a new sex toy, but seeing Vivian left alone is my real pleasure.
 
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Hattyrulz

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One of the things that strongly makes me want to dislike Vivian's character is the way she interacts with Christian in non-sexual scenes. She is instantly familiar with him, telling him intimate details of her sex life with Hutch immediately upon their first phone conversation. You would think that Christian would be viewed by her as the primary source of her problems. But she talks to him as if he is an ally in what she seems to think her problem is, namely her communication and relationship with Hutch. And she trusts Christian's opinion on what needs to be done rather than her husband's.
totally agree ... think i posted this before was thinking about it.
Granted, Hutch doesn't seem to be very long on advice in this story so far so I'd say there's room for some forgiveness there.
i mean i blame vivian for not reading the signs that hutch is giving her.... and she explains those same signs to chrisitan and even belives every word christian says when she has doubts instead of relying on the 22 years of marriage experience with hutch. so i dont think hutch is in the wrong. well then again its porngamelogic...
 
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Sparta158

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One of the things that strongly makes me want to dislike Vivian's character is the way she interacts with Christian in non-sexual scenes. She is instantly familiar with him, telling him intimate details of her sex life with Hutch immediately upon their first phone conversation. You would think that Christian would be viewed by her as the primary source of her problems. But she talks to him as if he is an ally in what she seems to think her problem is, namely her communication and relationship with Hutch. And she trusts Christian's opinion on what needs to be done rather than her husband's.

Granted, Hutch doesn't seem to be very long on advice in this story so far so I'd say there's room for some forgiveness there.

I suppose a lot of that could be chalked up to the idea that she doesn't really know what her problem is and these new physical urges are clouding her thoughts too much. Assuming of course that these urges are NEW.

There's still room for redemption for Vivian, depending on what the updates reveal. But watching her try to reassure Hutch multiple times that she is there to listen to him, when almost the entire issue of the tension of the story is a result of things she hasn't told him, kind of makes me feel she deserves whatever's coming.

So for now when I re-watch the scene in the kitchen where Christian teaches her how to deepthroat, I'm not really feeling any pangs of sympathy for her.

Plenty of other pangs though...
yes, that's my problem too. In my eyes, they behave and interact like a couple who know each other from before.
 
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