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I agree. He is toying with them both the entire time and relishing it. As he admitted, he has done this with other couples before. He wasn't serious when he gave Hutch the task. He probably expected that Hutch would not be able to come up with the list he asked for given the pressure Hutch was under, but even if Hutch did come up with a list, it would not matter. Christian is the kind of sleazy scumbag who knows how to manipulate weak and/or stupid people. Also, whenever Christian is talking in a seemingly gentle or encouraging way to Hutch, he is actually mocking him and throwing everything in his face. Christian is obviously a very sadistic individual, and he loves playing games with people.there is no reason for explaining the reason of an antagonist in a ntr story he does what he wants to... not mcu. but jokes aside christians characters comes across as ahole who gets what he wants... and from the previews and story so far he pretty much does. some may view that conversation between christian and hutch as pep talk but other may see that as manipulating the results. and we know that at the end vivian was done with him and now he is rigging the results.
think he is getting confused like vivian from christians dialogues which keep repeating how he fucks the wives in front of their husbands.I still don't think you've played the game. When does she fuck in front of her husband? Why not just play it, and see what it's like?
you mean the code talk scene... if its that scenes there are a lot of factors that affect this scene since the first time vivian is caught having sex with christian to the non stop confiding in christian about hutch and their personal life. she doesnt know y hutch is declining her touches or actions to be intimate until she actually sees hutch coming out of the toilet where she fucked and confessed her love when she fucking christian. but after this scene she feels she deserves it but sometimes flips flops between thinking its not her fault.True, but she knows why Hutch is declining her any emotion, and I think she feels she deserves it. But that last scene in the bedroom undoes Hutch's emotionless stance (that's why I think it fails in the scope of Hutch's character, but that's just me).
That last scene between Hutch and Vivian (although I know why it was done), still feels out of character and flat to me, no matter how many times I see it.
or maybe a good man feeling betrayed by his loving wife of 22 years. who is in shock at the happening of that even after all the warning he gave her and all the bs vivian spouts about being a big girl and take care of herself. thats devestating to a loving kind protector/provider...losing the one thing he wants to protect ...his wife cheating on him willingly.We've been discussing that for a long time, u and me, and u know i would like some kind of revenge for Hutch. But the fact he doesn't want ti touch her can easily be explained by the disgust he feels towards Vivian at this point.
more like pooped out... jokes aside .. thats in the dark dark category like the scene someone posted of the devs previous work/render. finger crossed as far out theory as it may be hope its not happen to hutch who is already on thin ice emotionally.~ Also, I have a crazy theory/thought here, but what do y'all think about Maxwell/Addison?
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Speaking hypothetically, let's say Vivian ends up leaving Hutch to fuck around with Chris. Unbeknownst to Vivian, Hutch has been seeing Addison on the side as sort of a "comfort". I.e., side chick sorta thing.
But then, if/when Vivian decides to leave Hutch for good, Hutch tries to get with Addison to console him as they used to, but then Maxwell comes along and conveniently steals Addison away from Hutch. I.e., by way of sexual blackmail/manipulation as how Chris initially did the same with Vivian.
So now both Hutch's wife/side chick are taken away from him, and he's left with no one
I know it's kind of an out-there theory/random thought, but was just spitballing some ideas in my head and this scenario popped out
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thats just for this updare we wont know what will happens now that hutch has made it an open marriage. and vivian free to do what she wants.NVM, the bathroom scene she says he will never get it.
nice theory..... but i would still go with the theory where its christians fault this happened and the clients he trying to gain back are the ones he scewed over and is using vivian to do it. and regarding the change in mind set of hutch the sneak peak shows vivian infront of a smoking man without any makeup... i think its hutch after a mindset change or a complete breakdown.I can't see Hutch getting out of his depression and going after Addison any time soon tbh, unless we see a massive change in him.
Maxwell obviously wants Addison and wants Hutch gone so he can try and swoop in there. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one who fucked Hutch over with those accounts to try and get rid of him.
I'm referring to the scene after they "open" their relationship, up to and including where she asks for a promise it wont affect our relationship, and Hutch asks her to always come back to him at the end of the day.you mean the code talk scene... if its that scenes there are a lot of factors that affect this scene since the first time vivian is caught having sex with christian to the non stop confiding in christian about hutch and their personal life. she doesnt know y hutch is declining her touches or actions to be intimate until she actually sees hutch coming out of the toilet where she fucked and confessed her love when she fucking christian. but after this scene she feels she deserves it but sometimes flips flops between thinking its not her fault.
Yeah tbh, that would be like the penultimate bad ending or something if such a scenario were to be implemented in-game.thats in the dark dark category like the scene someone posted of the devs previous work/render. finger crossed as far out theory as it may be hope its not happen to hutch who is already on thin ice emotionally
totally agree and she doesnt even get that reason he acts meek after the first 2nd and 3rd time he keeps distancing himself from her after the backyard scene or oppose christian. the only way i come to term with that kinda of behaviour is porn game logic. and if read the convo she has with christian in the carpark it has double meaning based on how the reader interprets it. like hutch will take everything away from me can be interpreted as its not my fault but hutch for being meek that it has come to this. and so on.If the tables were turned to where the female partner instead saw the man doing this with another woman, I think she also would not feel like being very sexual or affectionate with him. IMO, Vivian would be acting like a real POS to emotionally damage her husband like she has and then use this as an excuse to justify escalating the sharing of sex/passion with another man/other men.
Seriously, I love the phrasing you use here. You should frame it. Sarcastic, as you say, but funny, and the wording is magic.My interpretation: (/s)
Wife: Promise me, now that I will become a complete cum dump for your boss and possibly other men, that I might even develop feeling for, that we will still be good and it wont affect our marriage, and you will always love me and feel the same way for me as you have for the last 22 years.
Hubbie: I will, as long as you promise to always come home to me every night after a hard day's fucking so I can see and smell the stank on you, while I'll probably stay celibate for the rest of my life.
Wife: I will. Now lets hug! Just ignore my previous lying and cheating and humiliating you and devastating you. Because I love you.
as long as you promise to always come home to me every night after a hard day's fucking so I can see and smell the stank on you, while I'll probably stay celibate for the rest of my life
Looks like both Vivian/Hutch's love knows no boundsWife: I will. Now lets hug! Just ignore my previous lying and cheating and humiliating you and devastating you. Because I love you.
you dont need that jealousy in the case of vivian... she is already weak to christian when he does anything with her.... she just meekly follows .... one comic instance is christian asking for a selfie and she shend a pick of the boobs and a gesture in a very revealing nightgown she wore for hutch with out even thinking instead of out right rejecting it. even in the current state of the vn ... vivian is almost ready for anything christian does to her...after getting free pass from hutch there is nothing holding her back. and she is happy but doesnt go against hutch when he tell her to do what she wants do or dont dont ... and she acts submissive like she is doing it for hutch and their marriage but in porn reality its freedom from guilt and feels there is no problems anymore.... this should have been the reaction of vivian at the start of the game when she learns the hutch might be fired and instead goes im a big girl and can do better job than my husband who does the job.I think we will see this moving forward if Hutch does anything even remotely with Addison, she will take this as the ok to move things along and start fucking around. Maybe she goes into the office and Hutch finally accepts lunch with Addison, she will see this and use it as an excuse to bang the boss on his desk. Could be where the jealousy comes in, rather than the simple devastation Hutch has experienced up until now, he was not jealous, he has been broken.
i dont think it meant as always come back to hutch at the end of the day... but meant that at the end of it all she will not become a complete slut and give into her pleasure and leave him. which in the NTR genre is say she will never come back and yes i completely agree with that comedic view of the situation out right hilarious.I'm referring to the scene after they "open" their relationship, up to and including where she asks for a promise it wont affect our relationship, and Hutch asks her to always come back to him at the end of the day.
you dont need that jealousy in the case of vivian... she is already weak to christian when he does anything with her.... she just meekly follows .... one comic instance is christian asking for a selfie and she shend a pick of the boobs and a gesture in a very revealing nightgown she wore for hutch with out even thinking instead of out right rejecting it. even in the current state of the vn ... vivian is almost ready for anything christian does to her...after getting free pass from hutch there is nothing holding her back. and she is happy but doesnt go against hutch when he tell her to do what she wants do or dont dont ... and she acts submissive like she is doing it for hutch and their marriage but in porn reality its freedom from guilt and feels there is no problems anymore.... this should have been the reaction of vivian at the start of the game when she learns the hutch might be fired and instead goes im a big girl and can do better job than my husband who does the job.
Yeah that struck out to me too. A this stage she is practically loving the sex she is getting with the boss. Perhaps she is just a "cake eater" and wants everything: the loving husband at home with the married life, and the lover outside home.I would expect some jealously from the wife as her reaction when telling Hutch that he can "balance things out" she gets emotional, this could be all a show and complete bullshit on her part but she does seem to not want Hutch to get with anyone else, even though just a few hours before she was getting railed in the bathroom.