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psychedevil

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I never supported her actions, see my past posts to verify that, not sure how you got that impression. I've mentioned before in various ways that fucking the boss to save his job is just stupid. I've even labeled her self-centered, selfish and narcissistic. Obviously this is a porn game, so we need some sort reason for the sex, so here we are!
Personal belief, you can never save a relationship or solve a problem by fucking others - lying and cheating.
On the one hand, I try to have some understanding in regard to Hutch and Vivian being placed in a desperate situation, one which (despite Vivian's bad judgment) involves manipulation and victimization by a sociopathic slimeball boss. Without the victimizer, there would be no victims.

On the other hand, regardless if the initial effort by Vivian to try to deal with the situation was motivated by good intentions and concern for her husband/family circumstances, how could she not ask herself the question: Even if allowing my husband's boss to have his way with me could save his job, do I really want my husband to be working for a man who would expect such a thing in exchange for keeping him employed? (and furthermore have her husband remain at a job where he has to face this man and take orders from him on a daily basis) So even if her intial action was sparked by good intentions, she seriously did not think very far ahead in terms of consequences. She may have believed that she was the partner with the plan and who was trying to take control, but she ultimately acted impulsively without much forethought in regard to eventual outcomes.
 

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I would assume that Hutch met Vivian in her wild days. Hutch, probably a virgin nerd, was in the right moment at the right time and got a dream one night stand with young and wild Vivian. Maybe because there was no other guy around. He banged her and got her pregnant (or at least he could potentially be a father). Afterwards, the couple tried to focus on the family side, and Vivian calmed her horses down, at least in the early stages of maternity.
there is flaw in this theory as if vivian was really wild in her would she have been so easily manipulated by christian so many times, there is some flaw in vivian that we are not seeing(only the dev knows;)). the pregnancy might be a valid theory... but then again it up for speculation if hutch is the real father... for now unless we get a reveal of the past every theory is a valid theory. if it's not revealed then we just have to the facts that the dev has given us.
I never supported her actions, see my past posts to verify that, not sure how you got that impression. I've mentioned before in various ways that fucking the boss to save his job is just stupid. I've even labeled her self-centered, selfish and narcissistic. Obviously this is a porn game, so we need some sort reason for the sex, so here we are!
Personal belief, you can never save a relationship or solve a problem by fucking others - lying and cheating.
maybe im mistaken but there were a few who were strongly support vivians actions are the right course of action as i remember clearly saying that each department has different ways of solving problems and what vivian did was foolish. as you have stated ... the way she went about it also was wrong on so many levels that's how i think. and yes strongly agree with your last statement.
Hutch was a wild one back in the day, Vivian was the one to tame him leading to a loving whirlwind romance and a unexpected pregnancy. Life and responsibilities mellow him out to a mild mannered man.
most likely flashback story as it supports the man with the cigarette render in the sneak peaks
So even if her intial action was sparked by good intentions, she seriously did not think very far ahead in terms of consequences. She may have believed that she was the partner with the plan and who was trying to take control, but she ultimately acted impulsively without much forethought in regard to eventual outcomes.
i thought you were on the anti vivian(team hutch) team.... going soft on her.... :(
 
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TheDuke9999

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im sorry but anyone that feels remorse for hutch is crazy. the boss never hid his intentions for the wife to either of them. they walk in. he hugs then kisses wife.. the wife did nothing. she even was telling the boss how hot he is. hutch was telling his wife the boss is going to try to bang you... all this in front of hutch. she leaves holding the bosses hand as he degrades her husband right in front them both . and hutch is really so shocked the moment he sees wifey bent over getting banged by the boss? how she do this? how could he do this? BOTH OF THEM RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU JUST TOLD YOU WITHOUT WORDS YOUR GETTING CUCKED !!!! to me because we dont see the back story tells me hutch is either the dumbest man alive along with his wife .. easy pickings for the boss or hutch knew marriage was over long before this ever started and watching wifey get her fill was hammer dropping on there marriage and finally broke hutch an realized his wife is gone.... forever.
 

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i tend lean towards the underdogs/ good guys .... in this vn its hutch....that's my choice... you are free to have your opinions ... i won't change my support for the underdog even if he is cuck and spineless individual.... dont forget this is just a vn.... ;) ... he is the opposite of christian....thats gives this vn rollercoaster of emotions for its readers. with vivian being the focal point as joe stated in his earlier post about main characters in the vn
 
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TheDuke9999

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i tend lean towards the underdogs/ good guys .... in this vn its hutch....that's my choice... you are free to have your opinions ... i won't change my support for the underdog even if he is cuck and spineless individual.... dont forget this is just a vn.... ;)
i really do want to see hutch bust on the boss's mom face waving the middle finger screamin your fired biotch as everyone at the boss' job watches it on the computers.. that would be epic ending
 

psychedevil

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i thought you were on the anti vivian(team hutch) team.... going soft on her.... :(
In simplifying where I stand in relation to the main three characters, I would say that I am the most opposed to Christian (the husband's boss); I would hope for the worst possible ending for him.

As for Vivian, I am "anti-Vivian" in the sense that I think she repeatedly has shown very poor judgment; at least so far, I do not hate her as an imaginary person like I do Christian. However, given the direction of the story, I probably will come to dislike her as a character even more than I currently do. I'm hoping that in the end she is taught a lesson and continues to suffer and struggle emotionally for the harm that her attempted shortcut caused.

In regard to Hutch, I do feel sympathy for him as an imaginary character (which I do not think is "crazy"); regardless what anyone may say about Hutch being "weak" or supposedly a "cuck" (which I previously disagreed with while acknowledging that I understand there are differences in the meaning of this word), he has not performed any actions, intentional or unintentional, that I find to be cruel, not like manipulation/abuse from Christian or the selfish/thoughtless actions of Vivian. I'm hoping for a good ending (relatively speaking) for Hutch.
 

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Also, in regard to Addison, I am hoping for a relatively good ending for her (assuming that she is a caring person and is not secretly horrible). This may not be ending up with Hutch somehow necessarily, but for me I would like to see some kind of pushback from her (whether out in the open or covertly) toward her uncle/the boss.
 

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my speculation in regards to addison is that she is also a victim of christian. and the one next to him when he talking to vivian on the 3/4th day. 2 reason for this assumption.
1 she is the only person in the vn trying to support hutch even though its not reciprocated by him unlike vivian.she is the pain relief that hutch needs to not completely break.
2 to many render count and to many models....this is the dev's 2nd hobby project. his first is unfinished which would have been a prototype to hone his skills. the dev did say each update would be about 5000 renders approx... which in itself a back breaker for any config. let alone without monetary support to improve his rig from patreon or other similar platform.
 

JoeBlogs

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all this in front of hutch. she leaves holding the bosses hand as he degrades her husband right in front them both . and hutch is really so shocked the moment he sees wifey bent over getting banged by the boss? how she do this?
Maybe we are seeing this wrong, and his concern is for Christian:
Hutch: Oh no! She's fucking him without a condom! he will definitely get her HIV, herpes, Hep B and gonorrhea now. Poor guy, doesn't know what's install for him.
 

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my speculation in regards to addison is that she is also a victim of christian. and the one next to him when he talking to vivian on the 3/4th day. 2 reason for this assumption.
1 she is the only person in the vn trying to support hutch even though its not reciprocated by him unlike vivian.she is the pain relief that hutch needs to not completely break.
2 to many render count and to many models....this is the dev's 2nd hobby project. his first is unfinished which would have been a prototype to hone his skills. the dev did say each update would be about 5000 renders approx... which in itself a back breaker for any config. let alone without monetary support to improve his rig from patreon or other similar platform.
my speculation. I think Addison will give Hutch the password to access Christian's computer. In the Vivian folder, Hutch will have a retrospective view of all of the recorded sex acts. Most importantly, Hutch will see all the sex acts with Christian and maybe Businessman as well.
What are your top 5-10 games?
 
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Gattsu#Struggler

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In regard to Hutch, I do feel sympathy for him as an imaginary character (which I do not think is "crazy"); regardless what anyone may say about Hutch being "weak" or supposedly a "cuck" (which I previously disagreed with while acknowledging that I understand there are differences in the meaning of this word), he has not performed any actions, intentional or unintentional, that I find to be cruel, not like manipulation/abuse from Christian or the selfish/thoughtless actions of Vivian.
Well Hutch got cucked by Vivian and therefor he is a cuck but he isn't a cuckold who likes to watch his wife getting banged by another one nor does he wants it.
Hutch said she should do this little project and work with Christian because Christian advised him to say so at the parking lot if Hutch still loves Vivian. Hutch is intentionally lying to his wife by claiming the decision to set the marriage open and let her work with Christian and the little project to be his own and that he didn't talk to Christian after what has happened at the ladies bathroom at the office.
Hutch knows he's lying to Vivian and Vivian sensed it but doesn't confront him so as not to hurt him further in his pride.
Imo this displays Hutch to be a weak character and Vivian to be a thoughtful one.
 
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JoeBlogs

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Imo this displays Hutch to be a weak character and Vivian to be a thoughtful one.
I think you are confusing pain, confusion, betrayal and shock for weakness. Even feeling defeated isn't a sign of weakness. Further updates should shed more light on the matter, in time.

Vivian being thoughtful? Really? You and me have vastly different definitions for that word I think :). Personally I think she is just being a greedy bitch thinking with her pussy, and not her heart or brain.
 

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I think you are confusing pain, confusion, betrayal and shock for weakness. Even feeling defeated isn't a sign of weakness. Further updates should shed more light on the matter, in time.

Vivian being thoughtful? Really? You and me have vastly different definitions for that word I think :). Personally I think she is just being a greedy bitch thinking with her pussy, and not her heart or brain.
You should go over the parking lot and talking code scene again. Vivian asked Hutch to leave town together and let all that happened behind them but then comes Huutch lying into her face with a decision that is not his own just by thinking what he does now would make her happy even though he doesn't want it and so doesn't she either...lol! :ROFLMAO:
He isn't just weak...he is plain stupid!

Nowadays people pull out the smartphone to record anything that happens like the cowboys did with their revolver if they did not like something.
In the ladies bathroom Hutch could easily have recorded the blackmailing from Christian and when not for blackmailing then for adultery,
but Hutch being Huutch does again nothing!
He has the smartphone in his hand and texted her if she still loves him... :FacePalm:
Even when he had a little white angel sitting on his left shoulder...this little white angel would have slapped him right into his face.
 
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I think we can all agree, they are both behaving very stupid. That's part of the story's dilemma, adds to the aggravating drama.

I agree Hutch's lack of smartphone usage is idiotic. I pass it off as the Dev's decision to keep the "secrets" dynamic.
Then again, for all we know he might have recorded or taken pictures but that element has not come to play yet (doubt it). maybe he will do it in the future.
 

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I'm not very good at interpreting such situations, but here's my opinion: Christian gave Vivian a little test in the office this morning. He saw his situation in the kiss incident. Then he tested this too when he took the dominant role in their marriage. to hutch; "Don't bring your wife," he said to Vivian, "If you don't come wearing this dress, the dinner date will be cancelled." When he saw Vivian's behavior during the kissing incident and that she came to dinner in that dress, he realized that he could get her. Since he knew how much they needed this job, the rest was very easy for him..

I apologize for the grammatical errors as English is not my native language.
 
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Maybe three possibilities(?):

1. Vivian decided she was done with her wild 'ho' phase and wanted to settle down. Hutch seemed reliable and was her best choice at the time. She fell in love with him eventually and they married.

2. Hutch has plenty of redeeming qualities that Vivian found attractive and drawn to, leading to falling in love with him and a loving marriage.

3. Hutch was a wild one back in the day, Vivian was the one to tame him leading to a loving whirlwind romance and a unexpected pregnancy. Life and responsibilities mellow him out to a mild mannered man.

I'm sure there are plenty of other suggestions.
I like 3 it actually would fit she dominated his wild personality, and she never let go of the reins.
 

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I think we can all agree, they are both behaving very stupid. That's part of the story's dilemma, adds to the aggravating drama.

I agree Hutch's lack of smartphone usage is idiotic. I pass it off as the Dev's decision to keep the "secrets" dynamic.
Then again, for all we know he might have recorded or taken pictures but that element has not come to play yet (doubt it). maybe he will do it in the future.
Agreed, both did and do it for the sake of Hutch's job and not for the sake of their marriage/life/...!

Vivian agreed to Christian at the ladies bathroom to help on the little project without "working with him" ever again to save Hutch's job but she needs Hutch's agreement on this.

Hutch has now only one task in his job, to keep account of the little project his wife is helping Christian with for the same salary as before.
Meaning no little project no job for Hutch!
After the parking lot, Hutch asks his wife at home to help Christian with the little project and to "work with him".
Hutch got that manipulated that he even asks her to "work with" Christian again besides helping him with the little project!

talking code:

little project
  • five points plan: scoping out places to test them; if they suit the clients tastes then invite and persuade them to sign contracts
work with
  • have sex with
 
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