VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [Ch.2] [SC Stories]

[packard1928]

guy for me...

 

[Sparta158]

English is not my language, and I have trouble determining the gender of the interlocutors here (my language is highly gendered, english - completly not)
Adhdclassic - are you woman ? Sparta158 ??

I am extremely curious about the interpretation of Vivian's character in the eyes of a woman

No sorry I have 2 pine cones between my legs, but I spoke to my wife about the story after it was published.
English is not my first language either.

 

[Luc77]

Are there any women here?

Or, as usual, guys talk about how women will behave in emotional/sexual situations ? and we pretend to be smart, assuming we know what drives them ?
Times are changing - women like porn, but it's targeted at them
Currently, a whole branch of fantasy has emerged - womantasy
about which you can say - why kill someone if you can fuck him

When I saw what my wife was reading, I blushed. This was some real porn.

 

[Adhdclassic]

No sorry I have 2 pine cones between my legs, but I spoke to my wife about the story after it was published.
English is not my first language either.

My wife thought the whole thing was stupid. We both agreed when she walked into the office she unknowingly already damaged her marriage.

 

[Sparta158]

My wife thought the whole thing was stupid. We both agreed when she walked into the office she unknowingly already damaged her marriage.

Okay, we skipped a few little things. After the first week we agreed that Christian had blackmailed Vivian outside in the garden because he had received the information from ? that Sawyer is not the father of Hutch.
3 weeks, 140 pages and many great comments and interpretations later, I'm not sure anymore.

 

[Dealbreaker]

There is a difference, and that is precisely what I have been trying to say.

In civil law there would be no difference, she would have to pay damages anyway. She would be responsible for cause and effect and that is the point. And I deliberately mentioned children who should know that the can't only have good intentions but have to look at the consequences.

(And I'm a guy of course)

 

[Stardust435]

Ok...so many positive reviews. Lets see if it's as good as they say.

 

[TonyMurray]

Okay, we skipped a few little things. After the first week we agreed that Christian had blackmailed Vivian outside in the garden because he had received the information from ? that Sawyer is not the father of Hutch.
3 weeks, 140 pages and many great comments and interpretations later, I'm not sure anymore.

You mean Hutch is not the father of Sawyer, of course, but no, that was never agreed - we can't agree it! It was just a speculation that someone made when trying to figure out what could have happened to result in Christian and Vivian having sex so quickly.

In civil law there would be no difference, she would have to pay damages anyway. She would be responsible for cause and effect and that is the point. And I deliberately mentioned children who should know that the can't only have good intentions but have to look at the consequences.

(And I'm a guy of course)

But it doesn't matter, because we are not in any kind of courtroom, nor are we headed there. We are just talking morals and feelings, not legal liabilities.

 

[Sparta158]

You mean Hutch is not the father of Sawyer, of course, but no, that was never agreed - we can't agree it! It was just a speculation that someone made when trying to figure out what could have happened to result in Christian and Vivian having sex so quickly.

But it doesn't matter, because we are not in any kind of courtroom, nor are we headed there. We are just talking morals and feelings, not legal liabilities.

That's right, that was our first speculation after the first playthrough, because everything went so quickly outside in the garden at the beginning. After several runs and you diligent writers, I see things differently.

 

[Hattyrulz]

The more I think about it though, the more I guess that Vivian might have instigated it... sort of. With the tests (the kiss, the dress, the "turn up/don't turn up" to dinner), Christian has already been manipulating Vivian towards this end. He says later "the door is right there ... just leave... no one is stopping you", and also "I may have to lay off people... salesmen..." He's always just hinting, just insinuating, but not actually saying what he means, he's letting Vivian work it out for herself. That means he can technically deny ever saying it.

its clear that vivian instigated it as the SC Stories shows the scene when hutch tries to have a friendly talk but is met with stares from both vivian and christian and after that when christian leaves the room to we can see vivian deciding for herself that she has to everything to fix this. it's clearly shown by the dev. if you don't get it you have to replay it(it's a clearly showing what's gonna happen)... another aspect is if the dev was to show the dialogue in the backyard it would not have the same impact as leaving it to the reader's imagination. and the insinuation and manipulations(like you have noted) done by christian even after he knows that hutch know about then and doing what even he can to manipulate them. and the last statement deny yes but that's not what we are debating about... its if vivian humiliating hutch or not( for now she is dumb enough to think thats she is protecting which is just a excuse people tell themselves to justify they are doing).

I see her not driven by an aim to hurt but by ego, panic, interest, hubris, sense of self-importance and, yes, an underlying growing contempt against her husband. This is as always mixed with pity, trying to be helpful, protectiveness for her family etc

well put dealbreaker... this is what i meant but didn't get the point across when tony was in favor of vivian googling and giving hutch advice on how to do his job.

Vivian is trying to protect Hutch. You might not think it's the right way to do it, you might not think it's possible to do it, but she shows that it's her mindset:
"He can never know. He doesn't deserve to carry that pain. It would destroy him."
"I have to carry it for both of us... I have to!"

this can be viewed another way like you stated about the code talk .... if they don't talk about it doesn't become real.its like they have some twisted logic of love and relations which can only be understood if SC Stories took some liberties(logic breaking reasons) with that situation. if she had the foresight and understanding before she went to her husband office wouldn't it have been better(bad only for the reader). of listen even once to what hutch was telling her. as dealbreaker phrased it wonderfully i'm not gonna repeat it. if you look at the whole update you can see the parts/scenes are all interconnected and telling a logical sequence that the dev wants to tell us.since there are some unknown variable the view/theories/speculations are so varied. just to summaries...vivian is the instrument christian is using to humiliate hutch as he has done so with many other couple. now the speculation part... vivian isn't humiliating hutch at least that what she thinks ... couldn't she have googled that like she did at the start. later on.... if everything goes according to christians kinks... which is humiliating husband using the wife.... then vivian maybe a complicit in that.

In acting recklessly, Vivian would be fucking Christian knowing that there was a risk of Hutch finding out and being hurt by it, but she disregarded that risk. There is a difference, and that is precisely what I have been trying to say.

(Caveat: not a lawyer, but knows Google.)

don't see this logic at all or train of thought.... even if you are acting with purpose or recklessly... doesn't everyone think about making a decision(this is real world logic bleeding into the vn)...after having read some of the other posts .... no woman in real-life would do that to her loving husband what vivian did(that's just my view). some pointed out that vivian is the dominant one in the relationship and takes care of everything... if she did, then how did she not think about the consequence.
googling is what lead to the vn.... nice so with google everyone talks about law. like vivian thinks she can do her husbands job. nice touch there tony

PS: i have assumed most if not all of us being men.... and even posted when someone asked about what the 2 women would be talking about in the bar sneakpeek that SC Stories posted. and i seems i'm the youngest, relationship wise so i'll leave the complexities of a long relationship to better knowledgeable men.

 

[TheDuke9999]

Hard disagree. It would be right to apologise and have everything in the open, but not doing it doesn't mean an absence of love or a presence of stupidity. Again, Vivian is trying to protect Hutch. You might not think it's the right way to do it, you might not think it's possible to do it, but she shows that it's her mindset:
"He can never know. He doesn't deserve to carry that pain. It would destroy him."
"I have to carry it for both of us... I have to!"

Married (and happily so) for 15 years, and of course you can't. But that has no bearing here, because I'm not Hutch and Hutch is not me.

I'm happy for you.. so what is the difference between you and Hutch then?

 

[Gattsu#Struggler]

no woman in real-life would do that to her loving husband what vivian did (that's just my view). some pointed out that vivian is the dominant one in the relationship and takes care of everything

First of it's a fictional novel and any comparison with reality in any respect is absolutely out of place. This KN has the intention to entertain.

... if she did, then how did she not think about the consequence.

Oh, she did...just read Vivian's thoughts displayed throughout the game.
Even when she mentioned it to Christian, Christian reassured her by saying that Huutch is a rock.
Sometimes it's all a woman needs to hear...at least in a game.

 

[TheDuke9999]

Hahaha. Married for 25 years any man feeling that brave I would let them know I have a shovel very big backyard 3 grown mama boys 3 elderly neighbors I have known since my children have been born. No one saw you enter my house. I have said this in other threads I don't know how men allow someone else to play in their toy box.

Exactly.. that's my point. Regardless of the consequences my ass is in grass lol..

 

[TheDuke9999]

41 years for me. I think she keeps me cause I still have life insurance ! but....even now I would not allow that. But... this is a game...

So what's the difference between you and Hutch

 

[TheDuke9999]

What's really crazy is when Wifey was begging for it in the Backyard it took awhile to realize Wifey was gone so long.. then when his dumb ass couldn't compete the simple task he was giving started looking around and find Wifey getting vitamin d.. Hutch to me is a severely depressed middle aged guy who is very dumb other than numbers.. problem is Wifey loves the boss now.. and the d.. and soon will be willingly humiliating Hutch out of pleasure.. I love this woman

 

[Luc77]

IMO this is not love, but fascination, something new, exciting... and power is a great aphrodisiac


In real life I know a lot of couples with a crisis (betrayal - both) and I am of the opinion that in long-term relationships it just happens. More often than we think

 

[packard1928]

So what's the difference between you and Hutch

I would have immediately found out from the 2 clients why they left. Could it have been prevented ...or did something happen with someone else to change their mind. I think Christian did something in the game and is blaming Hutch. The other is I would never have let my wife go to a 1 on 1 company dinner with my boss. Group gathering with other wives yes. Plus, She would not have even thought about it. Unfortunately in my long career I have been let go 5 times. Had to change industry 3 different times to make monies... By the Gace of God we did fine. You do what you have to do. My wife never thought to interfere in that. THis is a game and a good one ! but I think it may streach real life a bit.

 

[Adhdclassic]

There's another form of humiliation and embarrassment for Hutch I didn't even realize. He has to go into work everyday and see the man who is fucking his wife and basically be obedient to him and help make him money. He's helping by sitting at his desk making him money while his wife is on her knees and back making him money.

 

[Hattyrulz]

Even when she mentioned it to Christian, Christian reassured her by saying that Huutch is a rock.
Sometimes it's all a woman needs to hear...at least in a game.

now who is blurring the lines between real life and vn

THis is a game and a good one ! but I think it may streach real life a bit.

i think more along the line of using real life logic but with a huge helping of adult game logic. in weaving the real life and vn logic into one streamlined story is what's creating the various debates that have taken place in this thread.

In real life I know a lot of couples with a crisis (betrayal - both) and I am of the opinion that in long-term relationships it just happens. More often than we think

thats a mild way to phrase it... but if it did happen in real life then she was not the right partner. thats how i think... as someone in the thread posted ... vivian and hutch's marriage seems superficial for a couple who has been married for 22 years... and my longest relationship was 10 years which was with my wife... so i may not know how longer relationships change but in those 10 years, we never had any crisis we couldn't face after having a simple conversation. so such logic breaking reasoning when mixed in with the real life reasons sparks a reaction in me.

 

[Luc77]

you know(not Hattyrulz ), no offense but talking about the same thing over and over - especially in the same company - is a bit boring

we have two sides of the view, one says that she is a natural born whore, a slut and gives "it" to everyone, and Hutch ist full-party-cuck

the other one says, calm down, let's not judge so easily, yes, it's strong, it's a betrayal, and in the toilet it's completely exaggerated
But.
she didn't want it at all, she was trying to help - but she fell down a rabbit hole....
Let's wait, she still has a chance to get out of this, there is still a path to redemption (although not without serious losses),
although now I assume Chris will push her in the direction Full Slut Mode (part two).
And Hutch - imo is like David & Goliat.

However, we will only get to know it at the 3rd or 4th part of story -

ps. 35 days after its release, we have nearly 150 pages of text and over 100 reviews. SC Stories - You broke the system.