You mean Hutch is not the father of Sawyer, of course, but no, that was never agreed - we can't agree it! It was just a speculation that someone made when trying to figure out what could have happened to result in Christian and Vivian having sex so quickly.
But it doesn't matter, because we are not in any kind of courtroom, nor are we headed there. We are just talking morals and feelings, not legal liabilities.
That's right, that was our first speculation after the first playthrough, because everything went so quickly outside in the garden at the beginning. After several runs and you diligent writers, I see things differently.
its clear that vivian instigated it as the SC Stories shows the scene when hutch tries to have a friendly talk but is met with stares from both vivian and christian and after that when christian leaves the room to we can see vivian deciding for herself that she has to everything to fix this. it's clearly shown by the dev. if you don't get it you have to replay it(it's a clearly showing what's gonna happen)... another aspect is if the dev was to show the dialogue in the backyard it would not have the same impact as leaving it to the reader's imagination. and the insinuation and manipulations(like you have noted) done by christian even after he knows that hutch know about then and doing what even he can to manipulate them. and the last statement deny yes but that's not what we are debating about... its if vivian humiliating hutch or not( for now she is dumb enough to think thats she is protecting which is just a excuse people tell themselves to justify they are doing).
well put dealbreaker... this is what i meant but didn't get the point across when tony was in favor of vivian googling and giving hutch advice on how to do his job.
this can be viewed another way like you stated about the code talk .... if they don't talk about it doesn't become real.its like they have some twisted logic of love and relations which can only be understood if SC Stories took some liberties(logic breaking reasons) with that situation. if she had the foresight and understanding before she went to her husband office wouldn't it have been better(bad only for the reader). of listen even once to what hutch was telling her. as dealbreaker phrased it wonderfully i'm not gonna repeat it. if you look at the whole update you can see the parts/scenes are all interconnected and telling a logical sequence that the dev wants to tell us.since there are some unknown variable the view/theories/speculations are so varied. just to summaries...vivian is the instrument christian is using to humiliate hutch as he has done so with many other couple. now the speculation part... vivian isn't humiliating hutch at least that what she thinks ... couldn't she have googled that like she did at the start. later on.... if everything goes according to christians kinks... which is humiliating husband using the wife.... then vivian maybe a complicit in that.
don't see this logic at all or train of thought.... even if you are acting with purpose or recklessly... doesn't everyone think about making a decision(this is real world logic bleeding into the vn)...after having read some of the other posts .... no woman in real-life would do that to her loving husband what vivian did(that's just my view). some pointed out that vivian is the dominant one in the relationship and takes care of everything... if she did, then how did she not think about the consequence.
First of it's a fictional novel and any comparison with reality in any respect is absolutely out of place. This KN has the intention to entertain.
Oh, she did...just read Vivian's thoughts displayed throughout the game.
Exactly.. that's my point. Regardless of the consequences my ass is in grass lol..Hahaha. Married for 25 years any man feeling that brave I would let them know I have a shovel very big backyard 3 grown mama boys 3 elderly neighbors I have known since my children have been born. No one saw you enter my house.
I would have immediately found out from the 2 clients why they left. Could it have been prevented ...or did something happen with someone else to change their mind. I think Christian did something in the game and is blaming Hutch. The other is I would never have let my wife go to a 1 on 1 company dinner with my boss. Group gathering with other wives yes. Plus, She would not have even thought about it. Unfortunately in my long career I have been let go 5 times. Had to change industry 3 different times to make monies... By the Gace of God we did fine. You do what you have to do. My wife never thought to interfere in that. THis is a game and a good one ! but I think it may streach real life a bit.
now who is blurring the lines between real life and vn
i think more along the line of using real life logic but with a huge helping of adult game logic. in weaving the real life and vn logic into one streamlined story is what's creating the various debates that have taken place in this thread.
thats a mild way to phrase it... but if it did happen in real life then she was not the right partner. thats how i think... as someone in the thread posted ... vivian and hutch's marriage seems superficial for a couple who has been married for 22 years... and my longest relationship was 10 years which was with my wife... so i may not know how longer relationships change but in those 10 years, we never had any crisis we couldn't face after having a simple conversation. so such logic breaking reasoning when mixed in with the real life reasons sparks a reaction in me.In real life I know a lot of couples with a crisis (betrayal - both) and I am of the opinion that in long-term relationships it just happens. More often than we think
but talking about the same thing over and over - especially in the same company - is a bit boring
we are in the first update and we are already getting so many theories... imagine if this vn had choices.... we would go nuts. the more i try to get the story the more complex it becomes. the vn not having choice was to keep the reader sane(that's what i think)
I mean, this story is probably going to bad-end.
everyone agrees that the recording from the bedroom will be released
who said that.... thought it was just speculation ..... did SC Stories confirm it.everyone agrees that the recording from the bedroom will be released
I think in the final chapter he may give us a choice between
