VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [v0.2] [SC Stories]

[Hattyrulz]

yea, you're really old-fashioned...

i'm not a dictator mind you, i would respect my wife's opinions and took them into consideration... the bottomline... follow my lead. plain and simple. maybe i am and thats y this story's writing triggers me sometimes.

 

[yourmomma]

I just started playing this game and it's beautiful. Vivian is an emotional hot mess. Hutch is weak and easily manipulated. Christian is the fucking man that recognized the weakness in their bond and completely took advantage of it like a boss and his super dick is awakening Vivian's slutty side ( we can only assume she has repressed daddy issues he's going to swing the doors wide open on ) and she's gonna fuck everyone and cuck her son in the process as well. And the way it's written is friggin hilarious and you can kind of identify with Christian, because those two ( Hutch and Vivian ) are just sad and don't have their shit together. The tension is executed really well for such a short seduction phase from Christian, who basically just sent Vivian a dress, said some kind words, showed her his pool and oops his dick is inside her. Team Christian for the win.

" No don't, but omg your dick is magic. Stop, don't stop...ASSHOLE.....please keep going "

I just hope Hutch hooks up with Addison as a consolation prize via a pitty fuck.

What a gloriously beautiful slow rolling train wreck this is going to be lol

 

[TheDuke9999]

not disputing the wording just voicing my thoughts.... as you missed the later part of my quote ....made vows to each other is in my view to build something together... yes i agree that exchange of vows and trading vows is commonly used but when i did the vows with my wife i asked the priest to word it so... as we were building something together. not refuting or opposing your words. just my opinion on it.

i used the phrase first...the road to hell is paved with good intentions... you need to pay me royalty or send vivian over for some payment.

well i hate to send a hoe over on an empty stomach so i am going to feed her real quick then send her on a bus to your place.. just wash her first before you send the pig back please and no refunds.

 

[JoeBlogs]

The problem starts right there with her stating sex is HIS love language (in other words: not hers) and her engaging in it in order to show himsomething to communicate with him (in other words not for the sake of enjoyable and exciting sex itself but as a therapeutic and manipulative tool). Then again there will be people saying this is "good for the relationship". No, it's the attitude which led to where they are - leaving her wanting another kind of sex, exactly that kind she has with the boss, whcih is the opposite of a love language, at last not a burden, not a communicative tool to soothe a husband and his emotional needs but just raw sex. In this sense that quote is a further clue to her sexual awakening, it shows two kinds and meanings of sex for her.

I can see your point, but there isn't any direct mention on what her love language is, so we shouldn't automatically assume that Hutch does not do it for her. I think the way she is head over heals for him even in her sick twisted and demented ways, shows that Hutch is providing her with the emotional connection she desires.

This thing with Christian is physical mostly for now, she is beginning to like it, and be friendly with him, but I dont think it is on an emotional level yet, it is still a release for her lust. If it starts getting emotional while still being physical, then that's when the shit's over.

 

[psychedevil]

I just hope Hutch hooks up with Addison as a consolation prize via a pitty fuck.

I would be greatly disappointed if Addison doesn't end up playing a major role in the story. She's young and hot and can be a bit of a rude girl but obviously has a sweet longing for Hutch. I mean, damn, she was more genuinely flirtatious with Hutch than his own wife, essentially telling him to let her know if she can do anything for him...anything at all.

 

[JoeBlogs]

Did Hutch give her away to Christian when he repeatedly told her that he didn't want her to go to his boss' home with him?

Did Hutch give Vivian away to Christian when he warned her again and again about what kind of man he is on the drive to his home and then told her that he wanted to leave soon after they arrived, as he had no desire to grovel for his job?

Did Hutch give Vivian away to Christian when she (the big girl who can take care of herself) decided to drop her panties in the boss' backyard and allow him to hit it from the back?

Did Hutch give Vivian away to Christian when he said that he wanted to leave his boss' home without eating dinner, repeatedly asked his wife if something happened (which she denied), again insisted on leaving after dinner, and then objected to her sleeping in the same bed as his boss, even grabbing her by the arm at one point, to which she characteristically responded not to worry and that she's a big girl and can take care of herself?

Did Hutch give Vivian away to Christian when she insisted that she was going to visit the office only to tell him she would not work for him yet instead again had quite active/involved sex with him and then still agreed to work for him by attending a "business" meeting/dinner and further said that she'd have to convince Hutch to let her do it?

I notice that some in this thread keep harping on Hutch about him not acting more aggressively/forcefully and perhaps even violently toward his boss. However, should Hutch as a loving husband have to resort to doing such things to get his loyal wife of 22 years to agree with him or follow his lead?

Why did his wife choose to contradict and oppose him every step of the way, starting with accompanying him to his boss' home (in effect doing what she thought his boss wanted her to do instead of listening to her husband)?

Why did his wife not back him up when he repeatedly voiced wanting to leave his boss' home and not beg for his job, which he did both before and after the backyard incident?

Why did his wife agree to sleep in the same bed as his boss, knowing what had already happened in the backyard, and even after her husband grabbed her by the arm and tried to restrain her from going?

Why did his wife again have sex with his boss after she had insisted the previous night that she was only visiting the office the next day to tell his boss that she would not work for him, and then after all that, ultimately agreed to work with him anyway and said she'd have to convince her husband to let her do it?

Yeah, sure, one way of seeing it is that Hutch decided to give his wife away to Christian (temporarily) when they sat down at home and finally had a somewhat honest conversation about what had happened and how she felt about it.

However, another way of seeing it is that Vivian had already given herself to his boss repeatedly across the span of two days after she previously insisted each time that she was perfectly capable of handling herself if his boss acted inappropriately.

Vivian says one thing and does another thing; she then lies about it when directly asked and would've continued to lie if she hadn't been caught; and while at home with Hutch, she acts like she wants to flee the town with him after she just told his boss earlier (post-sex) that she'd have to get him to agree to let her go to a "business" meeting/dinner with him.

So okay, maybe Vivian wants Hutch to show her that he as her husband desires her and wants to protect her. However, it seems that he tried to do that, at least in his own way, though perhaps more of an angry outburst or physical confrontation was needed to sufficiently claim his wife, the wife with whom he had traded vows with long ago and raised a son currently attending college. On the other hand, maybe Hutch wants Vivian as his wife to show him that she of her own volition can be trusted, honest, and faithful, not because he has to pressure or mate guard her into doing it, but because that's what she really wants. Yes, Hutch told her that he was willing to give her what he thinks she wants but is unwilling to admit to him, but he also told her that what happens or does not happen is up to her (as it was from the start before she chose to give herself to his boss, which granted she likely was initially coerced into doing, but then went quite a ways beyond that).

Very well written. Lots of points I've tried to emphasis in the past. You've worded and expressed them quiet clearly.

All this is precisely why I still want Hutch to be quiet stoic towards Vivian and withdraw emotional expression (e.g. no i love you, or hugs, or hand holding) etc, it's the only real protest he has against her for now. Well at least until she comes back to him and hopefully we see the consequences to her actions.

 

[yourmomma]

I would be greatly disappointed if Addison doesn't end up playing a major role in the story. She's young and hot and can be a bit of a rude girl but obviously has a sweet longing for Hutch. I mean, damn, she was more genuinely flirtatious with Hutch than his own wife, essentially telling him to let her know if she can do anything for him...anything at all.

I feel like she'll play a some what important role. She does seem to be a little bit protective of Hutch, who's too oblivious to pick up on it. Seems like the end "talk" Vivian gave Hutch the okay to feel the need to " balance " things out if he needs to. Which would be interesting to see Vivian's reaction when that moment comes.
This might end up being Hutch's seduction as much as Vivian's.
Also what will happen if Dev introduces more cannon female characters. Right now it's a little bit of a sausage fest.

 

[psychedevil]

Also what will happen if Dev introduces more cannon female characters. Right now it's a little bit of a sausage fest.

I think I remember seeing another female or two in some of the preview images that have been released, so there should be more female characters introduced soon. However, it is interesting that the office is so testosterone filled with the exception of the boss' niece. It makes me wonder if this is supposed to reflect the industry being so male-dominated or if Christian generally doesn't want women working in the office to try to steer clear of potentially more obvious claims of sexual harrassment given his womanizing proclivities.

 

[Sparta158]

I can see your point, but there isn't any direct mention on what her love language is, so we shouldn't automatically assume that Hutch does not do it for her. I think the way she is head over heals for him even in her sick twisted and demented ways, shows that Hutch is providing her with the emotional connection she desires.

This thing with Christian is physical mostly for now, she is beginning to like it, and be friendly with him, but I dont think it is on an emotional level yet, it is still a release for her lust. If it starts getting emotional while still being physical, then that's when the shit's over.

I can't quite agree with the last point. We can go two routes. Complete destruction of the marriage, the fetishization of loss usually leading to divorce or sometimes something even worse for Hutch, or a redemption arc for Vivian and Hutch. So Vivian could end up coming clean to Hutch, they both make the choice to end the netorase agreement, and work on fixing their marriage together. It's not as easy as it looks.

 

[yourmomma]

I think I remember seeing another female or two in some of the preview images that have been released, so there should be more female characters introduced soon. However, it is interesting that the office is so testosterone filled with the exception of the boss' niece. It makes me wonder if this is supposed to reflect the industry being so male-dominated or if Christian generally doesn't want women working in the office to try to steer clear of potentially more obvious claims of sexual harrassment given his womanizing proclivities.

I don't know. An actual womanizer would have that office filled with beautiful women. I guess as you suggest could be a possible means for self control. I honestly don't think it's that deep though. I think the setting is like that to further Hutch's cucking. Considering they like ribbing him so much. Just another aspect of his humiliation.

I can't quite agree with the last point. We can go two routes. Complete destruction of the marriage, the fetishization of loss usually leading to divorce or sometimes something even worse for Hutch, or a redemption arc for Vivian and Hutch. So Vivian could end up coming clean to Hutch, they both make the choice to end the netorase agreement, and work on fixing their marriage together. It's not as easy as it looks.

I don't think we'll get a redemption arc. The main plot of this AVN seems to be a spiral into losing control and testing people's bonds. The writer does a good job at creating tension. Like how Vivian is torn between her desires of the flesh and her desire to remain faithful to Hutch.
How Hutch is clearly struggling with his wife's infidelity and easily manipulated by Christian's cunning and charming words. Telling Hutch that him burying himself in his work to avoid the situation ( escapism) is the sign of a real man ( implying he's stoic instead ) and Hutch allowing it to happen is his only means of having control ( Hutch's idea to begin with). As if leaving or confronting them isn't an option. The guy is a skilled psychopath and well written.
We'll see a lot more of that.
The only real feasible method for this to end with the marriage still intact is them both cutting Christian out of their lives and seeking couples therapy to help rebuild the bond they used to have and finally face the undercurrents that made them vulnerable to Christian's manipulative behavior.
This story, so far, is almost text book cluster b personality disorder drama and prey/victim supply retention.

 

[DarkArchon]

Yes, as I understand it, it's a comprehensive concept of cheating or cucking which includes the (male) children as well, which I have seen elswhere, too. I've never viewed it that way before and have never thought about it, that a mother is kind of cucking her son if she cheats (although there is no incest at play). It certainly plays a role in swearing and bullying language (I'll fuck your mother). It's an honor-thing I guess.

I see it as her humiliating both her husband and son by showing a level of affection for other males that those males are not entitled to by relationship. Even though humiliation is not always necessary for cucking to take place (technically speaking) a lot of people make that association. I think there are a number of things at play with Sawyer. In his mind, for obvious reasons, his father Hutch, Vivian's husband, is the only person entitled to touch Vivian in a sexual or romantic way. So some of Sawyer's reaction was probably on Hutch's behalf. He probably also thought it was disrespectful to him and to Vivian for his roommates to objectify his mother, despite Vivian enjoying the attention. Vivian enjoying/encouraging their flirtation touches on the humiliating aspect of it, and them disrespecting Sawyer touches on the bullying aspect of it you referred to.

 

[DarkArchon]

well i hate to send a hoe over on an empty stomach so i am going to feed her real quick then send her on a bus to your place.. just wash her first before you send the pig back please and no refunds.

Your being smart about the no refunds policy. That will be real important when Vivian is saggy and wrinkly! Don't forget my advice about eventually accepting food stamps in exchange for Vivian's booty. Her booty might not be as good in few years, and the customer numbers might start to drop.

 

[xcalibar4]

Did Hutch give her away to Christian when he repeatedly told her that he didn't want her to go to his boss' home with him?

Did Hutch give Vivian away to Christian when he warned her again and again about what kind of man he is on the drive to his home and then told her that he wanted to leave soon after they arrived, as he had no desire to grovel for his job?

Did Hutch give Vivian away to Christian when she (the big girl who can take care of herself) decided to drop her panties in the boss' backyard and allow him to hit it from the back?

Did Hutch give Vivian away to Christian when he said that he wanted to leave his boss' home without eating dinner, repeatedly asked his wife if something happened (which she denied), again insisted on leaving after dinner, and then objected to her sleeping in the same bed as his boss, even grabbing her by the arm at one point, to which she characteristically responded not to worry and that she's a big girl and can take care of herself?

Did Hutch give Vivian away to Christian when she insisted that she was going to visit the office only to tell him she would not work for him yet instead again had quite active/involved sex with him and then still agreed to work for him by attending a "business" meeting/dinner and further said that she'd have to convince Hutch to let her do it?

I notice that some in this thread keep harping on Hutch about him not acting more aggressively/forcefully and perhaps even violently toward his boss. However, should Hutch as a loving husband have to resort to doing such things to get his loyal wife of 22 years to agree with him or follow his lead?

Why did his wife choose to contradict and oppose him every step of the way, starting with accompanying him to his boss' home (in effect doing what she thought his boss wanted her to do instead of listening to her husband)?

Why did his wife not back him up when he repeatedly voiced wanting to leave his boss' home and not beg for his job, which he did both before and after the backyard incident?

Why did his wife agree to sleep in the same bed as his boss, knowing what had already happened in the backyard, and even after her husband grabbed her by the arm and tried to restrain her from going?

Why did his wife again have sex with his boss after she had insisted the previous night that she was only visiting the office the next day to tell his boss that she would not work for him, and then after all that, ultimately agreed to work with him anyway and said she'd have to convince her husband to let her do it?

Yeah, sure, one way of seeing it is that Hutch decided to give his wife away to Christian (temporarily) when they sat down at home and finally had a somewhat honest conversation about what had happened and how she felt about it.

However, another way of seeing it is that Vivian had already given herself to his boss repeatedly across the span of two days after she previously insisted each time that she was perfectly capable of handling herself if his boss acted inappropriately.

Vivian says one thing and does another thing; she then lies about it when directly asked and would've continued to lie if she hadn't been caught; and while at home with Hutch, she acts like she wants to flee the town with him after she just told his boss earlier (post-sex) that she'd have to get him to agree to let her go to a "business" meeting/dinner with him.

So okay, maybe Vivian wants Hutch to show her that he as her husband desires her and wants to protect her. However, it seems that he tried to do that, at least in his own way, though perhaps more of an angry outburst or physical confrontation was needed to sufficiently claim his wife, the wife with whom he had traded vows with long ago and raised a son currently attending college. On the other hand, maybe Hutch wants Vivian as his wife to show him that she of her own volition can be trusted, honest, and faithful, not because he has to pressure or mate guard her into doing it, but because that's what she really wants. Yes, Hutch told her that he was willing to give her what he thinks she wants but is unwilling to admit to him, but he also told her that what happens or does not happen is up to her (as it was from the start before she chose to give herself to his boss, which granted she likely was initially coerced into doing, but then went quite a ways beyond that).

Wow couldn't put it in better words.

If it starts getting emotional while still being physical, then that's when the shit's over.

Yep she is already physically lost, so the corruption would be emotional level. (I would like to think Christian needs fresh office whore to keep entertaining his clients.)

Like how Vivian is torn between her desires of the flesh

Yep

her desire to remain faithful to Hutch.

Although the next moment she sniff Christian's shirt and kept it as souvenir
So even though I kind of agree to your comment above but it feels hollow now specially after the bathroom scene.

All this is precisely why I still want Hutch to be quiet stoic towards Vivian and withdraw emotional expression (e.g. no i love you, or hugs, or hand holding) etc, it's the only real protest he has against her for now.

Storywise this is what intrigues me.

Vivian thinks she ended things with Christian (though she herself has doubt about it). But we as viewer know what happened in the bedroom and kitchen after the backyard scene. She may have thought nothing will happen in the bedroom cause Christian is done for tonight but when he again make a move on her she clearly didn't protest much.

And her thinking it's not much of an issue if it's in the past (she tries this in 1st kitchen scene with Hutch after her tryst) is what some hotwife's stories explore (though in the cuck genres she keeps it doing and hubby's finally accepts it).

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explore this quiet good. Where wife thinks 1 night tryst won't change anything in their marriage. She left her husband high and dry for a wonderful night with a star football player. Everyone specially women tries to gaslight husband that it doesn't matter if she has a 1 night with another man cause she will be back on the next day as his loving and faithful!!?? wife again.

Another think I dread in those stories is even how evil the husband's boss, wife's boss I mean the Bull is portrayed in the story in the finale he becomes either the loving traditional lover or in most cases he would be the one to sexually awaken her (using it to prostitute her & gain more clients & she is very happy about it), becomes main lover/man in her life while the hubby becomes 2nd bottom man.

 

[Dealbreaker]

I can see your point, but there isn't any direct mention on what her love language is, so we shouldn't automatically assume that Hutch does not do it for her. I think the way she is head over heals for him even in her sick twisted and demented ways, shows that Hutch is providing her with the emotional connection she desires.

This thing with Christian is physical mostly for now, she is beginning to like it, and be friendly with him, but I dont think it is on an emotional level yet, it is still a release for her lust. If it starts getting emotional while still being physical, then that's when the shit's over.

I personally regard the separation of "emotional" and "physical" one of the major traps and delusions which dissuades men from exiting these relationships at once in these situations. To say "it's just sex but emotionally she is still with me" is, I think, a projection of man's own (sometimes also only supposed) attitude to sex on women (and by the way: that is exactly what people here in the forum with a declared cuck fetish or sharing fetish say (not meaning you of course, just to show the consequence of this thinking): she can do what she wants, emotionally she will come back to me and I have her heart, others have her body. This is where it ends). Women don't do that, this always leads into a car crash. If she is sexually that open and hooked, she is also emotionally. It's all feelings for her, it's all one thing, it's always all together. (that's also why I would say: if sex is not her love language (not a fan of the concept at all), forget it at the get go). And you can see it in the way she starts to trust the boss in personal conversations about Hutch and taking advice how to deal with him - the betrayal is already at this point also an emotional betrayal of the disgusting sort. The emotional intimiacy with the boss starts immediately afer fucking like a switch.
We have seen some posts above the protective reaction which takes responsibility from Viivian and I argued against it. Here we see the stoic reaction (note how the boss manipulative advice to Hutch draws also on this stoic pattern and ideal) - I have the impression that especially men who want to be the strong, responsible, calm, stable part of the relationship get in this mode in these situations in order to rescue the relationship. But I think this reaction makes them vulnerable and has if at all the opposite effect on her, leads into misery - especially under the circumstances of our times. There is no reward anymore for this more traditional approach. All what it does is giving her excuses now ("her soul doesn't mean it") in exchange for the hope of her coming back and having a reckoning later. Exit is the only option, I said it here early on.

 

[xcalibar4]

I personally regard the separation of "emotional" and "physical" one of the major traps and delusions which dissuades men from exiting these relationships at once in these situations. To say "it's just sex but emotionally she is still with me" is, I think, a projection of man's own (sometimes also only supposed) attitude to sex on women (and by the way: that is exactly what people here in the forum with a declared cuck fetish or sharing fetish say (not meaning you of course, just to show the consequence of this thinking): she can do what she wants, emotionally she will come back to me and I have her heart, others have her body. This is where it ends). Women don't do that, this always leads into a car crash. If she is sexually that open and hooked, she is also emotionally. It's all feelings for her, it's all one thing, it's always all together. (that's also why I would say: if sex is not her love language (not a fan of the concept at all), forget it at the get go). And you can see it in the way she starts to trust the boss in personal conversations about Hutch and taking advice how to deal with him - the betrayal is already at this point also an emotional betrayal of the disgusting sort. The emotional intimiacy with the boss starts immediately afer fucking like a switch.
We have seen some posts above the protective reaction which takes responsibility from Viivian and I argued against it. Here we see the stoic reaction (note how the boss manipulative advice to Hutch draws also on this stoic pattern and ideal) - I have the impression that especially men who want to be the strong, responsible, calm, stable part of the relationship get in this mode in these situations in order to rescue the relationship. But I think this reaction makes them vulnerable and has if at all the opposite effect on her, leads into misery - especially under the circumstances of our times. There is no reward anymore for this more traditional approach. All what it does is giving her excuses now ("her soul doesn't mean it") in exchange for the hope of her coming back and having a reckoning later. Exit is the only option, I said it here early on.

I think what JoeBlogs (I also in later post) meant that it's her accepting the fact that she is also emotionally betraying him. Till now she is in denial that she is emotionally invested in Christian. This is the concept most Corruption/NTR stories explore in the second part of their stories after she is physically corrupted, and if it's NTR/Hotwife story then in this arc she starts to humiliate the hubby at first when they are alone and finally in the hubby's face.

I have point this out before she is emotionally invested into him already. In the kitchen scene when Christian gestures her she sits in his lap like a lover. And in the bathroom scene when she mounted him she kept looking into his eyes (this is one aspect NTR games explore, when the corruption/seduction starts the FMC will keep her eye shut or hand infront her eyes as corruption progresses she will slowly start to see him and look him in the eyes.) And from the get go she started to listen to him, lying to him as he suggested, gaslighting him as he suggested and finally turn it around him so Hutch thinks he is in control.

I think modern hookup culture made it kind of different things. But it was a sacred thing in the past cause it was meant to connect two strangers not only physically but into deep emotional level.

 

[Luc77]

I like this - when porn raises questions about the meaning of life (42)

 

[yourmomma]

Although the next moment she View attachment 4721936 sniff Christian's shirt and kept it as souvenir View attachment 4721938
So even though I kind of agree to your comment above but it feels hollow now specially after the bathroom scene.

Storywise this is what intrigues me.

Well yeah, that's where the inner conflict comes into play. Her idea of being faithful is not at all reflected in her actions. So she feels shame afterwards. I mean this is the classic addiction cycle and behavior.

 

[Dealbreaker]

"inner conflict" , "her not accepting the fact she emnotionally betrays him" etc - I'm surprised again and again what acrobatics men are prepared to use to excuse and understand women (myself sometimes included), i guess it's all in order to bring desire and standards/reason into accord with each other.

 

[Luc77]

Firstly - in my opinion you mythologize too much. Women also like regular sex without commitments - typical ONS. Especially from the young generation... (1995+, more liberated). Secondly - you search too much for some deep motivations - and according to research, very often it is an impulse, a rush of the moment.

the author has put Vivian in a situation between hot desire and permanent love, a relationship in which classical desire has simply died out. The language of love that Vivian speaks of is precisely such a family hearth hedgehog.

Hutch understands the situation - that Viv needs emotions that he can no longer give her. He faces a dilemma - whether to end the relationship or try to survive it - in the name of love (because he knows that in the long run the fire of romance will burn out), 22 years of living together, connections. Such matters do not end in fifteen minutes.


but enough about that - we don't really know yet where SC Stories wants to take us, and as I mentioned earlier - I prefer to focus on what is on "paper" and not on the supposed thoughts/situations/motivations, etc. etc.


ps. a woman's word would really come in handy in this thread.

 

[Dealbreaker]

in a situation between hot desire and permanent love

this is mythology for me (both concepts and their supposed conflict).
Although of course mythology we all use or have used in our own lives at some point. Doesn't make them less mythological.

I love the game because I see it precisely as a great destroyer of those myths - and not as their continuation and dramatization.