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psychedevil

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But I'm sure Hutch opened it regarding his boss not the town. Think it's going to end up being a perception thing. She will believe he meant it to be completely open. They didn't have a sit down conversation about the boundaries.

However, it would be hard to believe that she thought he meant he wanted their marriage to be completely open. It seemed clear that he was talking about opening the marriage only to "working" with his boss. The entire preceding conversation was about this. She even responded by saying that she did not want to lose him because of "working" with his boss.
 

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In continuation of my last post:
This stresses that it is above all competence in the actual and narrow sense which attracts her in the boss and what she misses with her husband. Competence rather than the mere pleasure probably. A topic picked up again in comical variation at the auto repair shop. He knows how to fuck he knows how to deal with her he knows how to command the husband he knows how to deal with the psychology of men. She wants to let go in the security of competence.
 

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However, it would be hard to believe that she thought he meant he wanted their marriage to be completely open. It seemed clear that he was talking about opening the marriage only to "working" with his boss. The entire preceding conversation was about this. She even responded by saying that she did not want to lose him because of "working" with his boss.
Thing is... what happens if the work with the boss requires to her to fuck other guys, for the sake of Christian getting, for example, new clients?
 

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The thing is, even if Hutch wasn't there, As Adhdclassic said, her kissing in the cheek and acting playful (a sign of intimacy, complicity) with the guy she supposedly hates or consider him an asshole makes her an hypocrite and an asshole too.
Correct, and it happened again outside the office after her work shift in the toilet.
Vivian accused Christian and insulted him as an asshole but forgot everything she said as soon as Christian embraced her from behind.
 

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However, it would be hard to believe that she thought he meant he wanted their marriage to be completely open. It seemed clear that he was talking about opening the marriage only to "working" with his boss. The entire preceding conversation was about this. She even responded by saying that she did not want to lose him because of "working" with his boss.
She also said in the beginning is he opening our marriage. Currently the conversation is regarding the boss because it's the current situation. If she decides to lets just say the BBC starts flirting and petting her. The open marriage is going to be a card she can use without feeling remorse.
 

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"Asshole" here is simply a compliment for the man who gets away with iit and knows it. It is submission to him having his way with her.
 

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Thing is... what happens if the work with the boss requires to her to fuck other guys, for the sake of Christian getting, for example, new clients?
THat is what we a currently lead to believe.... Get new or keep old... Probably keep old sine they lost 2 we know of. As well as this is written... The Dev may have a twist to this.
 

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Thing is... what happens if the work with the boss requires to her to fuck other guys, for the sake of Christian getting, for example, new clients?

Yeah, I get it. But of course that would be on her, to allow herself and her marriage to be further abused by such men.
 
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Correct, and it happened again outside the office after her work shift in the toilet.
Vivian accused Christian and insulted him as an asshole but forgot everything she said as soon as Christian embraced her from behind.
This extreme duality of hers it's for me the harder part to believe of the story. Maybe because the writing it's very good and "real". In the toilet scene, she's about to leave, insulting him, and just because he grabs her by the waist and start fucking her again, she loses control again. It's too exaggerated, because anything in her personality, her motivation concerning Christian or even her marital situation (i.e: a huge frustration) can't explain this attitude.
 

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This extreme duality of hers it's for me the harder part to believe of the story. Maybe because the writing it's very good and "real". In the toilet scene, she's about to leave, insulting him, and just because he grabs her by the waist and start fucking her again, she loses control again. It's too exaggerated, because anything in her personality, her motivation concerning Christian or even her marital situation (i.e: a huge frustration) can't explain this attitude.
Dominance pure and simple. Her husband is total opposite. The boss takes what he wants. Tattoo and piercings give the impression Vivian was wild when she was younger probably dealt the boss type and when she was ready to settle down she went with the safe choice. Now the boss has reawakened that side of her.
 

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She also said in the beginning is he opening our marriage. Currently the conversation is regarding the boss because it's the current situation. If she decides to lets just say the BBC starts flirting and petting her. The open marriage is going to be a card she can use without feeling remorse.
I agree that could happen, but if it did, all it would be is "a card" or a poor excuse. For a woman of her maturity and intelligence (a schoolteacher) to honestly think this would justify rampant cheating would be hard to believe.
 
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I agree that could happen, but if it did, all it would be is "a card" or a poor excuse. For a woman of her maturity and intelligence (a schoolteacher) to honestly think this would justify rampant cheating would be hard to believe.
I'm with you there that's why hope it doesn't happen. The fact Dev introduced it doesn't leave me much hope. DEV set a great foundation so we can just hope.
 
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You guys missing the main point of the husband telling her to go work with him.

I think he truly believes she deserves a chance he wants Her to choose to stay with him by her own free will,he wants her to have the guts to say to the guy NO I had enough I chose my husband. that's why he gave her the pass,he wants to have that victory over Christian that my wife chose me at the end of the day.
 

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Tattoo and piercings give the impression Vivian was wild when she was younger probably dealt the boss type and when she was ready to settle down she went with the safe choice. Now the boss has reawakened that side of her.
Still wonder though if its really coincidence that this reawakening happens now, at this point in time. She seems nervous, stressed and on the brink even before this starts. Shows quickly signs of anger in her face.
 

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You guys missing the main point of the husband telling her to go work with him.

I think he truly believes she deserves a chance he wants Her to choose to stay with him by her own free will,he wants her to have the guts to say to the guy NO I had enough I chose my husband. that's why he gave her the pass,he wants to have that victory over Christian that my wife chose me at the end of the day.
Yes that ...and I think we will see a plot from him to bring Christian down. But, He need her to be close to him for now.
 

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Still wonder though if its really coincidence that this reawakening happens now, at this point in time. She seems nervous, stressed and on the brink even before this starts. Shows quickly signs of anger in her face.
House sex scenes not counting the backyard. He invites her to his bed puts his hand out she accepts. First sign of intimacy, moaning extremely loud and you think your husband 20 ft away doesn't hear you, fucking throughout the house your husband is right there. You his wife is sleeping in the bed with a known player and you think he is sleep. Her awakening happened right after the backyard. Her fear and nervousness was nothing more than does he know.
 

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You guys missing the main point of the husband telling her to go work with him.

I think he truly believes she deserves a chance he wants Her to choose to stay with him by her own free will,he wants her to have the guts to say to the guy NO I had enough I chose my husband. that's why he gave her the pass,he wants to have that victory over Christian that my wife chose me at the end of the day.
I did consider something along those lines. I believe that's one reason why he echoed her own words by telling her he would let her "worry" about her (or be a "big girl"). I think he was telling her that ultimately she is the one with the power to choose. And if she chooses to let it continue, then it increasingly would seem that it's something she wants despite her objections to it.
 

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You guys missing the main point of the husband telling her to go work with him.

I think he truly believes she deserves a chance he wants Her to choose to stay with him by her own free will,he wants her to have the guts to say to the guy NO I had enough I chose my husband. that's why he gave her the pass,he wants to have that victory over Christian that my wife chose me at the end of the day.
Of course that's what he wants and Vivian is expecting the same from her hubby.
Both just aren't able to express to each other what they really want.
Especially not after all what has happened.
Hutch last try to intervene was bringing up the topic that Christian is still working his way through the first half of the phonebook during the dinner, but was immediatly shut down by his boss.
 
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dealt the boss type and when she was ready to settle down she went with the safe choice.
Yes, other players mentioned this, and that's why I can believe that she falls for the guy at first, but as psychedevil said, she's intelligent and mature enough to resist once she rationalized that she wants her husband over the bad boy.


You guys missing the main point of the husband telling her to go work with him.

I think he truly believes she deserves a chance he wants Her to choose to stay with him by her own free will,he wants her to have the guts to say to the guy NO I had enough I chose my husband. that's why he gave her the pass,he wants to have that victory over Christian that my wife chose me at the end of the day.
She said to herself and to his husband multiple times already that it's done with Christian, and she failed every time she tried to stop it. She's not even rejecting this new opportunity her husband is giving her now. So, why she will succeed this time? She will spend less and less time to bond emotionally with her husband (her work as a teacher plus now this new "work"), because, obviously, while the "work" with the boss remains, their sex life is dead. She already know that Christian is a total asshole, and she knows she loves her husband for the man he is, even if he's passive and not good in bed. So I don't see what big revelation she can have with this.
 
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