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He tell Christian in the parking lot he loves he after Christian asked.... But yes... Hutch Has not told her in person.
His facial expressions during the last office conversation at the desk and also when Hutch is leaving the office kind of show that he feels sorry for Hutch, but being an obvious sociopath this could be faked, also the whole love is about sacrifice comment this could be what pushes him to open the marriage, all a part of his power game.
He does not want Hutch to leave vulvamort (need an option to change her name) because then what fun would there be?
He does not want Hutch to leave vulvamort (need an option to change her name) because then what fun would there be?
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Of course he didn't say it after the cheating. He went nearly radio silent and even M.I.A. just waiting for her to be honest to him.
Even at the restroom event he hears her saying to Christian that the debts for Hutch are paid if she gives in one last time.
With all that we seen, now Christian manipulating the both of them in front of the office and on the parking lot.
Both wanted to make a clean slate and it got jeoperdized as soon as Christian told Vivian how to face Hutch by giving him a little bit of control.
...if only he could have endured the stench in the men's toilet!
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I'm beginning to question what was the original plan of Christian, when he was accusing Hutch for losing 2 clients by ordering him to come to his office the next day.
Christian could have just fired Hutch as it seems the common way in that office by listening to what Hutch's collegues mentioned.
Could Christian use Hutch for something that he has planned before he made the acquaintance of Vivian?
Is Addison involved? I sense something big coming our way!
Christian could have just fired Hutch as it seems the common way in that office by listening to what Hutch's collegues mentioned.
Could Christian use Hutch for something that he has planned before he made the acquaintance of Vivian?
Is Addison involved? I sense something big coming our way!
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I don't know if this topic has been touched on (actually, there are a lot of posts in a short time, so it might be haha), but in the scene where Vivian is talking to Christian before the bathroom scene, she is complaining about Addison (even calling her asshole), to which Christian replies that she is very sweet when she really knows someone. Vivian asks him how many people have made it this far, and he replies that not many, turning his head toward Hutch, implying that Addison really cares about Hutch.
Now, it's not made clear to what extent Addison loves him, whether as a friend or something more, which I really like because it leaves room for debate and some conspiracies, haha.
Personally, I still think she can be an important character for Hutch to deal with his situation.
But on the other hand, it made me wonder why she was so hostile to Vivian from the beginning? As if she already knew her, or knew who she was. Is Addison part of the plan to keep Hutch and Vivian apart? So she can keep him?
Only time (and SC Stories) will tell.
Now, it's not made clear to what extent Addison loves him, whether as a friend or something more, which I really like because it leaves room for debate and some conspiracies, haha.
Personally, I still think she can be an important character for Hutch to deal with his situation.
But on the other hand, it made me wonder why she was so hostile to Vivian from the beginning? As if she already knew her, or knew who she was. Is Addison part of the plan to keep Hutch and Vivian apart? So she can keep him?
Only time (and SC Stories) will tell.
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Now I think about it Addisson could have been a student of Vivians. Maybe Vivian did something to her. Vivian just doesn't remember her. Far out theory Christian is doing a revenge on Vivian for Addison. Addison saw a picture on Hutches phone and noticed her. A form of APM situation. I know far out.
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I really love the NTR, but bro Damn!! this s**** really got to me, the animations are spectacular but just the story has me hooked, I just ask that MC doesn't become a Cuck, some kind of revenge would be great, anything that gives some moral crumbs for the poor guy haha
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Incredible how different opinions can be xD People seem to love this... I think it is worse then most other ntr games here... render quality is good, but the whole game just feels like misery porn... sure, that kinda fits the ntr theme... but it doesn't hit the "sexy" part of ntr for me at all...
This game is killing it with comments, already at 51 pages while other very popular games released last year only have double that. It has been almost a week!
This dev has the potential to be the best, I wouldnt mind checking out the original non ntr game he has mentioned working on before this.
But if that is enough sucking up, more teasers please
This dev has the potential to be the best, I wouldnt mind checking out the original non ntr game he has mentioned working on before this.
But if that is enough sucking up, more teasers please
bro, we are without games, ever good game is released, a lot of people come support..This game is killing it with comments, already at 51 pages while other very popular games released last year only have double that. It has been almost a week!
This dev has the potential to be the best, I wouldnt mind checking out the original non ntr game he has mentioned working on before this.
But if that is enough sucking up, more teasers please
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Being good with numbers, even being the best in the business at the numbers, does not equate to knowing the runnings of the business. It's just saying he's good with figures, like an accountant. But that isn't all that's needed to run a business.
Actually, the whole business model does seem a little weird. Hutch and his immediate colleagues (the ones in that office) are salesmen, but it sounds more like they are client relations officers, or account managers or something. They keep regular contact with their customers, and are responsible (according to Christian at least) if the clients leave them. That's not a salesman's job, salesmen bring in the clients, which is what they get the commission for.
Even if it was in the right place, the camera in the kitchen is in the corner where the ceiling meets the wall. There's no reason to think cameras in other rooms would be in a different location - they are security cameras, so they need to be up high for line of sight. In the preview you're referring to, Vivian is bending over/leaning forward, not up.
I presume maybe something similar to what Hutch suggested - going through stuff with HR/IT etc. It could just be that he didn't want to make a rash decision though, so he sent Hutch home and would tackle it the next day, when he'd cooled down. Ultimately, you have to presume that Christian is a good boss, in technical terms at least - he knows what he's doing. The business appears to be quite successful, the salesmen are making good money at least. I don't think he would get far as the owner and manager of that business if he just made kneejerk reactions all the time.
I just took that as Addison being either jealous or disgusted. I would suggest that Vivian did not look at all like a client. With the hat and sunglasses, she looked like she was trying to hide, and the dress wasn't what you would usually call business attire. Addison could have guessed right away what Vivian was there for, without knowing first who she was. Then Vivian's nervous and evasive manner just furthered Addison's dislike. So for me, Addison is either turning her nose up at the boss being visited by someone he's obviously fucking, or she's fucking him herself (like that image of Christian with a long-haired blonde in his bed could suggest) and is jealous at another woman either fucking him or at least getting close to him.
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You are again assuming and taking real life events into account. That's not what the story has told us so far.
We know from the collegues how Christian handles this kind of situations.
"Dead man walking" was shouted from the back ranks as Hutch left the office on that day. In addition we only know that the company pays well nothing more and nothing less.
I am just assuming that Christian might have had another plan when ordering Hutch to come and see him the next day in his office to talk about his future!
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I don't get the "that's not what the story has told so far" bit. Why wouldn't real life events be taken into account? It's not a fantasy story... The office is going to have normal conventions, we don't see much of it, so we have to take our experiences to help us fill in the gaps of what those conventions might look like here.
"Dead man walking" doesn't mean "100% getting fired" - any joker/ass of a colleague (like Max comes across) might say something like that when you've had the boss tear you a new one, it's almost a natural response.
Considering that some game developers wait months for a 30 minutes release, it is possible to wait even 1 year for around 5000 renders. Our only hope is that the developer says some scenes are ready..
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He lost not 1 client he lost 2. He was warned to shore up his relationship with the clients, and he failed. (may be this was all set up)
Hutch was immediately ordered to leave and to come and see Christian the next day in his office to talk about his future!
This is dead man seriously walking out of office for good.
Again, I am just assuming that Christian might have had another plan for Hutch before Christian made the acquaintance of Vivian besides putting Hutch outside the door. A plan that does not include terminating him but using him for something else.
And if we are honest, why would a chick like Addison ensnare a guy like Hutch...this smells fishy since the beginning.
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My initial comment on this was in response to why Hutch wasn't fired on the spot, and was asked to come back the next day to discuss his future. Hutch suggested HR/IT involvement, and I was echoing that it could be a reason for it.
Christian says the sales office is the first office he bought, but they've obviously expanded because other functions of the business are elsewhere, and there's mention of a warehouse too, so possibly two or more other locations (although I think some of those other functions might be at the warehouse location, based on some conversation that I can't recall specifics of). Hutch also makes enough to get an expensive vehicle (on finance) and talk between Hutch and Vivian suggests that commission makes up a major part of that income. All of this tells us that the business is at least reasonably successful. As Christian's business, that reflects on him. If he wasn't at least "quite good" at it, he wouldn't be able to build up a successful business (and it sounds like it might be a difficult market perhaps - there are only two companies in the city who do what they do, whatever that is).
We also know, from Hutch's comments, that there is a HR function, and an IT function to the business. In most businesses (and this may obviously vary country by country), you wouldn't just fire someone on the spot, you might suspend them with immediate effect, but then you'd have an official process to follow with HR, to avoid a "wrongful dismissal" lawsuit, if nothing else. Even though it's Christian's company, he'd still have to follow such rules. So it's not beyond any realms of belief that he would send Hutch away at the time (suspend him), and get him to return the next day where he would be officially dismissed. Hutch invoking HR when pondering this with Vivian suggests that it could be a genuine reason.
As far as "dead man walking" goes, the colleagues don't know anything. They are only making comments based on what they have seen and heard, which is largely an angry boss, and Hutch being the reason for it because two of his clients bailed. Dead man walking is a term used to mean "not dead yet, but well on his way". In employment terms, it refers to someone who will soon lose his job - so he's made mistakes, his position is untenable, etc., but he's not actually been fired yet.
It's another form of speculation. It's like sports fans chanting "you're getting sacked in the morning!" when the team isn't doing well. The team's manager is taking the heat, and may well get sacked in the morning, or he may survive and keep his job, because the fans aren't the ones who make the decision or who know all the details. Here, that's Max, he doesn't know everything, and he doesn't make the decision, he's just making an assumption.
As for Addison, no idea, it is a bit of a weird one. Maybe she just has a particular taste in men that Hutch falls into. There's no accounting for taste, after all!
What we can agree on, is that this is a complex game, with so many possibilities, so it's natural that there is a lot of speculation and wildly different ideas on what might happen or why things already have happened!
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You didn't quite get what I meant.
It's not about Hutch getting fired, it's about what if there was another plan for Hutch to get called in to the office the next day to talk about Hutch's future!
Christian couldn't have known that Vivian would appear all of sudden.
With regard to Christians attitude towards his workers, the comments of Hutch's colleagues and the reaction shown by Hutch himself are based on what they have experienced during their work in this office. As if Christian cares about law and rules...
I've read quite a few posts mentioning how they believe the scene in the garden made no sense and/or was rushed and some people saying it was simply because of blackmail.
For the record I don't think my view of the scene is any more valid than any other but this is my perspective.
First of all I want to give a massive pat on the back to the Dev, what a fantastic fucking job they've done. I've played some bangers with amazing writing, but I've never played a VN with this level
of thought put into the dialogue- gestures and characterization. It's what gives me the perspective of the scene that I find many people don't share.
So let's start from the beginning.
This is something I noticed very early in the VN did anyone else? It may seem harmless once or twice but this is a constant through the story. She pets him and strokes him way too much not to be intentional. Can you imagine her treating Christian like this? No because Christian takes charge and leads does that remind you of anyone?
I don't doubt that Vivian loves Hutch but you don't do this to someone you respect as a man.
Vivian is strong willed, bullheaded, overconfident and she likes to take charge.
She's been in a relationship with Hutch for over 20 years and lets face it, he's submissive or at the very least meek.
She doesn't see a problem with their relationship dynamic and that's just fine....
Meet Christian, she doesn't even know he's him yet, but what a first impression he made.
She's literally trying to compose herself moments into meeting him. What is this unfamiliar feeling?
She's spent so many years with her pet husband that she forgot she had desires.
( Honestly there are so many renders that show he's more than a handsome guy to her, but due to the autoplay it's a pain in the ass to show them all )
Long story short Christian does what Hutch doesn't. He commands respect.
Vivian hasn't just met a handsome man she's met someone she see's as above her and she loves it.
This isn't just a dress it's a message. "If you come tonight the office was just the starter." telling her not to come is how
she can back out no harm no foul.
Soon as I saw this I knew she was getting her wish fulfilled.
Again this is just my perspective as to why it didn't feel rushed or out of nowhere.
For the record I don't think my view of the scene is any more valid than any other but this is my perspective.
First of all I want to give a massive pat on the back to the Dev, what a fantastic fucking job they've done. I've played some bangers with amazing writing, but I've never played a VN with this level
of thought put into the dialogue- gestures and characterization. It's what gives me the perspective of the scene that I find many people don't share.
So let's start from the beginning.
This is something I noticed very early in the VN did anyone else? It may seem harmless once or twice but this is a constant through the story. She pets him and strokes him way too much not to be intentional. Can you imagine her treating Christian like this? No because Christian takes charge and leads does that remind you of anyone?
I don't doubt that Vivian loves Hutch but you don't do this to someone you respect as a man.
Vivian is strong willed, bullheaded, overconfident and she likes to take charge.
She's been in a relationship with Hutch for over 20 years and lets face it, he's submissive or at the very least meek.
She doesn't see a problem with their relationship dynamic and that's just fine....
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Meet Christian, she doesn't even know he's him yet, but what a first impression he made.
She's literally trying to compose herself moments into meeting him. What is this unfamiliar feeling?
She's spent so many years with her pet husband that she forgot she had desires.
( Honestly there are so many renders that show he's more than a handsome guy to her, but due to the autoplay it's a pain in the ass to show them all )
Long story short Christian does what Hutch doesn't. He commands respect.
Vivian hasn't just met a handsome man she's met someone she see's as above her and she loves it.
This isn't just a dress it's a message. "If you come tonight the office was just the starter." telling her not to come is how
she can back out no harm no foul.
Soon as I saw this I knew she was getting her wish fulfilled.
Again this is just my perspective as to why it didn't feel rushed or out of nowhere.
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No, I get what you meant, I was just saying that my comments were in response to something different. Yes, of course Christian could have had another plan for Hutch, although personally I can't see what that could be, and sometimes the most obvious answer is just the answer. To me, it's much more likely that the delay was just because either there are regulations and rules that he has to follow, or because he wanted to approach it with a level head (again to possibly avoid a potential lawsuit).