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TonyMurray

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The scene set the night before she went to Christian in the office definitely implied she knew it was going down this path. I think she asked something about what kind of man Christian is, etc. I agree that many of the theories are too far-fetched, and I think people are forgetting some of the dialogue that adds context to many of the decisions. I believe she went to Christian with this idea in mind, but I think both Vivian and Christian were both involved in instigating it.
I don't think she had any idea things would turn out as they did, not in her wildest imagination. She went out to bat for her husband, because presumably she didn't have the faith that Hutch would be able to pull off their plan on his own. It was only when she met Christian and he started to work on her that her mind began to turn that way.
 

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"As controversial as the whole backyard/bedroom part seems to be, it was/is the foundation I build this world on
I agree, the adultery has to start somewhere.
It was shocking that it happend so early in the game, but I think it was the right decision.
I reckon that the dev has something in store for us.
 
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I don't think she had any idea things would turn out as they did, not in her wildest imagination. She went out to bat for her husband, because presumably she didn't have the faith that Hutch would be able to pull off their plan on his own. It was only when she met Christian and he started to work on her that her mind began to turn that way.
That's a good point. Maybe she didn't plan for it, but there surely was a turning point when meeting him.
 

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I agree, the adultery has to start somewhere.
It was shocking that it happen so early in the game, but I think it was the right decision.
I reckon that the dev has something in store for us.
I definitely think we'll learn all about Vivian's past as the story goes on. It's just a matter of when.
 
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I'm not convinced, unless it fits the story - which would quite possibly feed in to some of the theories that have been raised in this thread. Otherwise, there would be nothing of note for us to learn about.
Hmm. If the dev does do it, I really hope it's not told as a flashback. Flashbacks ruin the flow of the story and take me out of my immersion 100% of the time.
 

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I'm not convinced, unless it fits the story - which would quite possibly feed in to some of the theories that have been raised in this thread. Otherwise, there would be nothing of note for us to learn about.
To be honest, if it would be true, it leaves not many solutions :

- has been a hooker or a pornstar
- Sawyer's not Hutch's son.
-has been secretly unfaithful for years (least likely)

Other than that, it doesnt seem the logic solution would have been " i have to comply or else..."
 
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To be honest, if it would be true, it leaves not many solutions :

- has been a hooker or a pornstar
- Sawyer's not Hutch's son.
-has been secretly unfaithful for years (least likely)

Other than that, it doesnt seem the logic solution would have been " i have to comply or else..."
I'm confused about the "Sawyer's not Hutch's son" theory. What is that based on?
 
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If there is no revenge arc. Vivian will most likely have resentment for Hutch due to her sacrificing her body and dignity for him. The fact he was weak and allowed her to do it instead of fighting for them. Reminding him she was willing to leave with him he chose to keep her involved with Christian. At the same time enjoying her new life.
I agree that's the kind of mentality a cheater would have. "It's his fault I cheated", no agency in their own actions.

You have a point... First, This was ALL her Idea ! She is the one who decided to fuck someone to save the day. However,,,, As you mention she decovered later that Hutch KNEW all along she was fucking Christian. As you mentioned... Why didn't he intervein ?? Why didn't he come and bang on the BR door or come out of the stall to save the wife from the lecherous boss ! Does he value the job that much...just weak...Or is he a get even kinda guy. I think we see some change to Hutch late in the game now. This next one will define him more !
Yeah the whole he knows/she knows arc, although original, is quite unrealistic. I need to massively suspend by belief to stomach it. But you know porn game logic so....
I also don't think Hutch is as weak as everyone thinks. I see him more as broken and defeated. When he first saw his wife fucking in the backyard, something inside broke, and he probably thought what's the point of fighting for her when she's dropped her panties the first chance she got? All the times since then when he was giving her a chance to come clean and admit her wrong doings, she stuck to lying and gaslighting him. The this point that should have cemented his mindset, he lost and there's no point in fighting for someone does not deserve it.
Anyway that's my take. The truth probably is just the overly used weak husband trope we see in so many NTR games.


Here is some shots that show Vivian's love and commitment to Hutch.
How can anyone hear that and fall for that shit. Just one of those WTF? moments.


Don't know about you guys but once I walked in that kitchen. There is just too many deadly weapons in there to decide which to use. Meat tenderizer, cheese grater gotta get creative.:devilish:
You are forgetting the bottle of wine they brought as a gift. It should have been shoved so far up his ass, that turned him into a "water" feature.

If possible I would like to see the genitals more intertwined, in the bathroom scene there was almost nothing to see.
Sure, if the game needs it is debatable, it's one of the rare cases where the story is more important than the porn aspect.
I think the story is the hero here, and there really isn't any need for over the top angles to see the juicy bits. Tonnes of games here where you can get that.

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So far we have many usual/common NTR tropes:
1. Charismatic bully with big dick, exceptional sexual stamina, amazing sexual skills, financially well off, above average strength (held her "up" quite a bit in the bathroom), can get any woman he wants, and seams to be playing 4D chess while 10 steps ahead of the opposition.
2. Bully is over the top manipulative and quite successful at it.
3. Loving wife what so easily gets corrupted to into cheating whore
e.t.c.

We also have unusual/uncommon elements (what has kept me interested in the story)
1. The husband knows straight off the bat
2. Husband tries to get wife to come back (i.e. confess and ask for forgiveness)
3. There is a possible love interest for the defeated husband waiting for him.

I hope the uncommon list grows far more the the common list.
 

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To be honest, if it would be true, it leaves not many solutions :

- has been a hooker or a pornstar
- Sawyer's not Hutch's son.
-has been secretly unfaithful for years (least likely)

Other than that, it doesnt seem the logic solution would have been " i have to comply or else..."
"has been a hooker or a pornstar" I like this the most.
Maybe she had just a wild youth or was a nymphomaniac who wanted to settle down and break with the past.
 

SideshowBobNo.2

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I think the story is the hero here, and there really isn't any need for over the top angles to see the juicy bits. Tonnes of games here where you can get that.
I guess I have to agree that the story is more important than the juicy close-up's, but a little more showing of the genitals in action would not hurt the story.
Nontheless I can live without it.;)
 

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she's not a former porn-star, hooker etc... she's not a pro
Viv is fantastic, hot - but only amateur :)

about garden - "momentum"
 
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she's not a former porn-star, hooker etc... she's not a pro
Viv is fantastic, hot - but only amateur :)

about garden - "momentum"
I never thought about this (it's a stretch i warn you, it may be just just her meekly justifying herself) but is it possible Christian drugged her ? Before the patio scene, she's having very erratic behaviour.
 
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SideshowBobNo.2

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I never thought about this (it's a stretch i warn you, it may be just just her meekly justifying herself) but is it possible Christian drugged her ? Before the patio scene, she's having very erratic behaviour.
But later inside the bedroom and kitchen she seems to be fine and knows exactly what she is doing.
The most likely explanation is that her pussy just took over at the garden to pull down her panty for Christian.
 
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SideshowBobNo.2

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I said it was a stretch. But by then, the drug would have wear out. What if during the kiss, he slipped her a molly. 2 hours of effect.
Everything is possible right now.
For me the office scene with Vivian and the Boss sealed the deal.
She put on the dress from Christian, went to the invitation against Hutch's will, she knows that Christian will hit on her.
I suppose no drugs are needed to let her drop the panty for hubby's boss. (just her free will)
But time will tell...
 

Robb123456

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Everything is possible right now.
For me the office scene with Vivian and the Boss sealed the deal.
She put on the dress from Christian, went to the invitation against Hutch's will, she knows that Christian will hit on her.
I suppose no drugs are needed to let her drop her panty for the boss. (just her free will)
It's wway more likely. i wanted to find another explnation that my pussy is on fire or my husband will lose his job (more likely, her face before going to the patio)

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