Dealbreaker
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Dev is giving such statements like Hitchcock red herrings and laughing his ass offDEV said it's beside the backyard the base of his story!
Dev is giving such statements like Hitchcock red herrings and laughing his ass offDEV said it's beside the backyard the base of his story!
Man I like your passion, no irony.If you had played the game you would now know why we saw these scenes through the view of Hutch!
Get better soon!Confined to bed with fremure fracture
The basis for all of us should be the written text. No one should go AGAINST that text (errors can happen to anybody of course). But of course these words can be interpreted in order to draw conclusions regarding the inner worlds of the characters. And we all have to use "reality" as you call it, meaning our life experiences etc. in order to make those conclusions. It doesn't work any other way (so we always "mix" reality iinto it in order to makd sense of it, you do it too). But as I said, one shouldn't deliberately ignore or dismiss or falsly quote something which is in the text. But I haven't seen anybody do this here, to be honest, but I could be wrong.Just sometimes people mix reality into some given scenes and claim to know what a drawn character is thinking.
We can talk about itThe basis for all of us should be the written text. No one should go AGAINST that text (errors can happen to anybody of course).
Absolute right about the written text but before someone draws conclusion one should ask questions!The basis for all of us should be the written text. No one should go AGAINST that text (errors can happen to anybody of course). But of course these words can be interpreted in order to draw conclusions regarding the inner worlds of the characters. And we all have to use "reality" as you call it, meaning our life experiences etc. in order to make those conclusions. It doesn't work any other way (so we always "mix" reality iinto it in order to makd sense of it, you do it too). But as I said, one shouldn't deliberately ignore or dismiss or falsly quote something which is in the text. But I haven't seen anybody do this here, to be honest, but I could be wrong.
And take of course the pictures: they are even more open to interpretation of course than text. How you read faces totally depends on your own experiences.
Yes, with "against" I just meant claiming the text is something else than how it is written or deliberately omitting it OR WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT: claiming your interpretation IS the text and IS what the author had in mind (this could be something for Gattsu to chew upon... just saying).We can talk about it![]()
thats the wrong start actually... it started with packard's comment about the dev gonna show us what happened in the bedroom. and guttsu being enthusiastic took it in a whole other direction to what was intended. don't want to add fuel to the fire so i felt this would be the outcome. i didn't dispute that there was a conversation happening but about dev might have intentionally not shown us what was talked about in the bedroom.Gattsu mentioned that Hutch heard talking through the bedroom door before Christian and Vivian started fucking > Hatty disputed this > Gattsu provided screenshots and a play-by-play to confirm it > Hatty said to deescalate, stop talking about it and move on, agree to disagree, etc.![]()
i am against getting more sneak peaks as the more we learn about the next update the less of an impact it will have... even though i would like more sneak peeks i would opposed for a better read when the next update releases.I told you so - You'll soon be arguing about whose interpretation is the best.
It's fantastic that KN evokes such emotions - I even wrote about it. The level of (our) commitment is amazing - rarely seen in a book or movie [anyway... maybe it was like that in the past, when novels were published in serials in newspapers (e.g. Dumas's The 3 Musketeers) and readers had to wait for the sequels]
However, we must maintain a certain level of conversation that corresponds to the quality of the story
To cool down emotions - SC Stories should give us some content to tear into
[the scene from the pub is very good, but very anonymous]
if you have read what i wrote which all started with packard saying about the bedroom scene you will understand. in regards to where guttsu dragged the top to... regarding hutch leaning agisnt the door....guttsu is right. having said that.... the direction of the topic he focused on is wrong. and he was relentless about the topic i wasnt even trying to talk about which is the dev showing conversation took place in the bedroom.(or what happened later and in retrospect is there any need for that conversation to be shown). readers imagination paints a better picture.He's right though, Hutch listens at the door after checking and finding it was locked, and he hears them talking. Then, a little while later, the sex noises (and silhouettes) start up.
lets be clear about 1 thing... the more i read the kn the more i disliked vivian as a character. i was one of the few who wanted a redemption arc for the couple and was vocal about it. i don't know if you have misinterpreted my statement or my explaining is not clear. so i repeat... vivian might be influenced down the path of more corruption(lowering her inhibitions and acting purely on impulse like how she is with christian not gonna fuck them but be tempted) by the side characters like the mechanic and the assorted side characters. the main corrupting influence would be christian. not using any subtext here... the only time i theorised she would fuck anyone than christian was the interpretation of the sneak peak of vivian is a different house with maroon dress and earrings. and that it might be mayor tate as it was extracted bay someone from the script file which i have yet to find a way to open.When someone (Hatty, I think?) said she was for the streets, I interpreted that as "she's going to essentially become a prostitute"
seems like you dont understand what i was saying or feels like you don't want to accept what was said before... so i wont be involved with your discussion.lol, what happened to you, dude...?
You said there was no need for explanation for what happened at the bedrrom and I said this
and then you got confused and were ignoring the fact that there were talking noises at all and went amok with your posts after!
No I think it was quite simple:So no need to know what they talked in the bedroom before the clapping begun...oh sorry I forgot, there was no talking. Straight to business, right.
It's a common flaw of men to take their own condemnable weaknesses and mistakes as a justification for their women's own, independent faults. To try and take their guilt away with a genrerous gesture. It adds cowardice to that initial weakness, cowardice to confront those women. And it is male vanity: to see themselves as the center of it all, to pretend, they caused the women's transgressions. No, women have their own motives and agency, they don't need weak men to allow them to betray them, they do it on their own accord. It is vain self-delusion to pretend, he "gave" is wife - he never had that sort of control and influence over her to begin with. She was never "his".Everything that happened after that was the result of his decision to give his wife to someone else. If I were Vivian, I'd never want to see him again.
totally , vivian deserves housewife of the year for having sex with the boss in front of her horrible husband who is an idiot lol. marriage , vows , loyalty blah blah she deserves a purple heart for enduring the horrible experience of having sex all night in front of her idiot husband all night long, bathroom. .. vivian is a trooper lolYou've gone a little too far with the sodomy of Vivan. Throughout the story, Hutch is the villain, not the victim! She didn't go to the office the first morning to whore herself, but to help him. At "dinner" story, Hutch was the one who were on test, and he failed it 2 times. The first time he saw them in the yard, but even after that he had a remedial exam, but when he allowed his wife to go sleep with another man, he failed all the exams there and could easily go home alone and not expect her to ever come back to him. That's exactly what Cristian explained nicely in the kitchen. That he is one weak spineless cunt.
Everything that happened after that was the result of his decision to give his wife to someone else. If I were Vivian, I'd never want to see him again.
I dont know how SC Stories will end this, but if i was him, there are 0% chances that Vivian and Hutch could end up togeather.
Hopefully we'll get some clarification in the form of a flashback of what happened in the backyard and in the bedroom by the end of the story, but at this point, the best thing dev. did is that he "hid" those moments, because if all this was known, the experience of the story would be completely different and this discussion would be completely different.
If you read my comment above you'll notice the rubbish you wrote here!
Gattsu#Struggler, there is no need to get personal, keep it civil.Again, just read the dialoges...you're making a fool out of yourself here!
i think she sees it as a open for both and justifies that hutch also should do so as the story advances.In other words, Hutch fucking someone else would upset and hurt her, but you know her fucking Christian is OK because it's for "Hutch's Job".
I wonder if she sees or expects this open relationship to be one-sided and open on her end only. I guess only the Dev knows. He has the chance to be original here, let's see how it pans out.