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The last thing you mentioned makes sense in terms of a theory I had, which is that Addison already knew Vivian, or at least knew what she was doing, when they first spoke at the reception. That's why she treated her so badly, and that's also why, when Vivian tells her that she "knows where Christian's office is," Addison says something like, "Yeah, sure you do"
So you reckon Addison and Vivian have had a chance encounter in the past somewhere interesting
 

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So you reckon Addison and Vivian have had a chance encounter in the past somewhere interesting
Or maybe that Addison likes Hutch so she's done even the bare minimum of Facebook (or equivalent) stalking and found out that he's married and what the wife looks like.
 

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Interesting, do you reckon she has like a dart board at home with Vivian's picture on it? Hahaha
Personally, no, it's not my theory. My guess is just that Vivian is not the first woman to turn up looking for Christian, so Addison is used to it and maybe a bit disgusted by it - especially as the hat and sunglasses make it look like Vivian's trying to hide, so it might increase Addison's suspicion that it's a wife who is cheating on her husband with Christian (not Hutch's wife, just any random guy's wife).
 

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Personally, no, it's not my theory. My guess is just that Vivian is not the first woman to turn up looking for Christian, so Addison is used to it and maybe a bit disgusted by it - especially as the hat and sunglasses make it look like Vivian's trying to hide, so it might increase Addison's suspicion that it's a wife who is cheating on her husband with Christian (not Hutch's wife, just any random guy's wife).
Interesting I can vibe with this , would you be interested in adding that Addison has a record and evidence of all the women he's been with to eventually use in a blackmail situation haha as I'm sure Christian has bedded some women with very powerful husbands could be interesting

Also the hat and sunglasses sort gave me scooby doo vibes haha "I would of got away with it if it wasn't for you pesky kids" haha

Or like when someone is like act normal/casual .... Proceeds to then act in a way that is no where near normal or casual haha
 

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Interesting I can vibe with this , would you be interested in adding that Addison has a record and evidence of all the women he's been with to eventually use in a blackmail situation haha as I'm sure Christian has bedded some women with very powerful husbands could be interesting

Also the hat and sunglasses sort gave me scooby doo vibes haha "I would of got away with it if it wasn't for you pesky kids" haha

Or like when someone is like act normal/casual .... Proceeds to then act in a way that is no where near normal or casual haha
Sure, it's possible that Addison has knowledge - she is close enough to build a picture, to a degree - and she may be keeping records. At this point, it's something else that I'm not theorising though. If nothing else, purely because the story is a lot simpler than I'm sure most of the theories suggest it will be.
 
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This is why the following home scene between Hutch and Vivian felt flat to me.
I agree given how charged the bathroom scene was the scene in the living room just felt flat
Yeah that's why I am telling it's a quiet cuck hotwife stories. I read few hotwife stories from Amazon (I guess they aren't novice writer if their story posted there) and was like what!! why is the MMC doing/accepting it storywise it's not making sense there is way more plot armor without buildup so just hotwifeing can happen.

And it showed how happy/eager she is to the concept. Happy that her lover drilled some sense into him work-54 - she knows her lover made it possible - 1.jpg work-54 - she knows her lover made it possible - 2 - and she is happy about it.jpg

All of her ensuring she isn't into it work-53 - Really after all this.jpg or he is all she needs (even Hutch knows she is lying work-39 - he knows the difference between need and want - 2.jpg work-39 - he knows the difference between need and want - 3.jpg work-39 - he knows the difference between need and want - 4 - he knows her words arent' true.jpg ) is because she knows Christian won't marry her work-34 - she knows he won't make her his wife - 1.jpg

I liked to think how even she knows how her winning speech sounded work-35 - he also knew SHE wanted to do it - 8 - word don't match desire - 1.jpg work-35 - he also knew SHE wanted to do it - 8 - word don't match desire - 2.jpg work-35 - he also knew SHE wanted to do it - 8 - word don't match desire - 3.jpg work-35 - he also knew SHE wanted to do it - 8 - word don't match desire - 4.jpg when he didn't respond she dialed it up work-35 - he also knew SHE wanted to do it - 8 - word don't match desire - 5.jpg and finally went for offence work-36 - she knows she cheated.jpg


When Hutch done talking and went to the bathroom all she had to do is "Don't do it" (I know then the rest of the plot won't happen) but she made up some excuse in her mind that she is doing it so Hutch can cope it and this is good for his ego etc
work-56 - final verdict - 3 - why she needs to push it she just don't have to do it -1.jpg work-56 - final verdict - 3 - why she needs to push it she just don't have to do it -2.jpg work-56 - final verdict - 3 - why she needs to push it she just don't have to do it -3.jpg
In the end she did what Christian told her to do, put the blame game on him so she can be carefree. I mean come on how fucked up her logic is, this is how she thinks a man gains his ego or manhood. It again shows how little she thinks of him.

Even though I believe Hutch will become a willing/unwilling cuck in the end till now I like Hutch. In the dinner scene he was like we had a plan why would she have to literally FUCK it up (till now he doesn't know she visited Christian in the morning). After the bathroom scene he somewhat understood that she is doing it for her own pleasure not for him.

And if I want to be positive (cause I wish for more drama) then I guess all this hand holding etc is a deception part of his cause till now he didn't say I love you, hug her, kiss her. He only held her hand once and touched her thigh once.

I would like to think he knows he is stuck and knows/wishes Christian will eventually move on the next target. And hopes Vivian will get it out of system cause he wants to save his marriage.

But from my experience I know it's not gonna happen (Read too many corruption, cheating stories) the more you feel for the MMC the more brutal the FMC & Bulls will get and the more ridiculous the plot armor would be. I mean as a reader we know what Vivian is thinking. He said ".. unconventional for a while" and she heard and thought that their marriage is open from now (forever). He said "Do it or Don't do it, it's up to you" she heard "Do it" this is how I want to cope my hurtings, gain my ego.

Thank god she isn't a doctor otherwise if a patient went with a bruise finger she would have chopped the arm.
 

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Yeah that's why I am telling it's a quiet cuck hotwife stories. I read few hotwife stories from Amazon (I guess they aren't novice writer if their story posted there) and was like what!! why is the MMC doing/accepting it storywise it's not making sense there is way more plot armor without buildup so just hotwifeing can happen.

And it showed how happy/eager she is to the concept. Happy that her lover drilled some sense into him View attachment 4705512 View attachment 4705511

All of her ensuring she isn't into it View attachment 4705518 or he is all she needs (even Hutch knows she is lying View attachment 4705529 View attachment 4705528 View attachment 4705527 ) is because she knows Christian won't marry her View attachment 4705538

I liked to think how even she knows how her winning speech sounded View attachment 4705557 View attachment 4705556 View attachment 4705555 View attachment 4705554 when he didn't respond she dialed it up View attachment 4705559 and finally went for offence View attachment 4705560


When Hutch done talking and went to the bathroom all she had to do is "Don't do it" (I know then the rest of the plot won't happen) but she made up some excuse in her mind that she is doing it so Hutch can cope it and this is good for his ego etc
View attachment 4705574 View attachment 4705573 View attachment 4705572
In the end she did what Christian told her to do, put the blame game on him so she can be carefree. I mean come on how fucked up her logic is, this is how she thinks a man gains his ego or manhood. It again shows how little she thinks of him.

Even though I believe Hutch will become a willing/unwilling cuck in the end till now I like Hutch. In the dinner scene he was like we had a plan why would she have to literally FUCK it up (till now he doesn't know she visited Christian in the morning). After the bathroom scene he somewhat understood that she is doing it for her own pleasure not for him.

And if I want to be positive (cause I wish for more drama) then I guess all this hand holding etc is a deception part of his cause till now he didn't say I love you, hug her, kiss her. He only held her hand once and touched her thigh once.

I would like to think he knows he is stuck and knows/wishes Christian will eventually move on the next target. And hopes Vivian will get it out of system cause he wants to save his marriage.

But from my experience I know it's not gonna happen (Read too many corruption, cheating stories) the more you feel for the MMC the more brutal the FMC & Bulls will get and the more ridiculous the plot armor would be. I mean as a reader we know what Vivian is thinking. He said ".. unconventional for a while" and she heard and thought that their marriage is open from now (forever). He said "Do it or Don't do it, it's up to you" she heard "Do it" this is how I want to cope my hurtings, gain my ego.

Thank god she isn't a doctor otherwise if a patient went with a bruise finger she would have chopped the arm.
I love seeing the interrogation of scenes like this, and how different people pick out different things from them. If it wasn't for the overall content, I could see this game being discussed in a media studies-type class assignment. However, you're definitely wrong here! Not in the main content of your post, which is interpretation, but in the first part - they can definitely be novice writers on Amazon, and a massive number are just that. It's incredibly easy to publish on there. If you can get the formatting etc. correct, the only real thing they check is that the book isn't plagiarised!
 

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the story is a lot simpler than I'm sure most of the theories suggest it will be.
Totally agree, It's hard to keep the drama & erotism in the same wavelength.
Not in the main content of your post, which is interpretation, but in the first part - they can definitely be novice writers on Amazon, and a massive number are just that. It's incredibly easy to publish on there. If you can get the formatting etc. correct, the only real thing they check is that the book isn't plagiarised!
Ha ha yeah after reading some I also came to that conclusion also the marketing is a huge factor.
 

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Yeah that's why I am telling it's a quiet cuck hotwife stories. I read few hotwife stories from Amazon (I guess they aren't novice writer if their story posted there) and was like what!! why is the MMC doing/accepting it storywise it's not making sense there is way more plot armor without buildup so just hotwifeing can happen.

And it showed how happy/eager she is to the concept. Happy that her lover drilled some sense into him View attachment 4705512 View attachment 4705511

All of her ensuring she isn't into it View attachment 4705518 or he is all she needs (even Hutch knows she is lying View attachment 4705529 View attachment 4705528 View attachment 4705527 ) is because she knows Christian won't marry her View attachment 4705538

I liked to think how even she knows how her winning speech sounded View attachment 4705557 View attachment 4705556 View attachment 4705555 View attachment 4705554 when he didn't respond she dialed it up View attachment 4705559 and finally went for offence View attachment 4705560


When Hutch done talking and went to the bathroom all she had to do is "Don't do it" (I know then the rest of the plot won't happen) but she made up some excuse in her mind that she is doing it so Hutch can cope it and this is good for his ego etc
View attachment 4705574 View attachment 4705573 View attachment 4705572
In the end she did what Christian told her to do, put the blame game on him so she can be carefree. I mean come on how fucked up her logic is, this is how she thinks a man gains his ego or manhood. It again shows how little she thinks of him.

Even though I believe Hutch will become a willing/unwilling cuck in the end till now I like Hutch. In the dinner scene he was like we had a plan why would she have to literally FUCK it up (till now he doesn't know she visited Christian in the morning). After the bathroom scene he somewhat understood that she is doing it for her own pleasure not for him.

And if I want to be positive (cause I wish for more drama) then I guess all this hand holding etc is a deception part of his cause till now he didn't say I love you, hug her, kiss her. He only held her hand once and touched her thigh once.

I would like to think he knows he is stuck and knows/wishes Christian will eventually move on the next target. And hopes Vivian will get it out of system cause he wants to save his marriage.

But from my experience I know it's not gonna happen (Read too many corruption, cheating stories) the more you feel for the MMC the more brutal the FMC & Bulls will get and the more ridiculous the plot armor would be. I mean as a reader we know what Vivian is thinking. He said ".. unconventional for a while" and she heard and thought that their marriage is open from now (forever). He said "Do it or Don't do it, it's up to you" she heard "Do it" this is how I want to cope my hurtings, gain my ego.

Thank god she isn't a doctor otherwise if a patient went with a bruise finger she would have chopped the arm.
Honestly this post just sums up how delusional she is with her victim mentality at this stage it's absolutely off the charts haha

Don't even start me on the bit about his ego and manhood haha oooo I know what will sort that il continue to fuck his boss cause that's definitely not going to blow up in my face

I don't want or need it , like she just forgets that he heard absolutely everything that was said in the bathroom and treats it like it never happened at this stage it would of been hilarious if he turned round and was like Vivian don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining haha like I'm not fucking stupid at least let me have that since you've blown everything else up to do with our life

Honestly at this stage with how wild she has gone with her victim mentality I would not be surprised that when it's all said and done she's blames it all on hutch for opening the marriage, like bitch I gave you a choice I said do it or don't do it it's up to you ... Like I didn't make you fuck him that's all you Vivian haha

Like it genuinely annoys me around how dense she actually is , it's almost at the point where she genuinely can not see or comprehend that things are either right or wrong she only sees actions or outcomes all of these things are massive factors to why I can't stand her in the slightest it's like the lights are on but no ones home hahaha

Or where her brain should be she just has that toy monkey playing the cymbals

But I do still think hutch has a plan of some sort and he's trying to buy himself time for it to all come into place
 
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I love seeing the interrogation of scenes like this, and how different people pick out different things from them.
in what different ways they understand, comprehend and draw conclusions. Everyone has their own truth (movie: vantage point).
It all depends on the place (in your life) from which you view the situation.
 
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As previously stated in this forum,
Everything that happens is subject to the viewer's interpretation. We don't have enough information at this stage of the game.
That's where this KN is good. It's very emotional (both for the viewer and for the KN characters). On the other hand, it has the intelligence not to get too explanatory (especially in the phases when the characters are talking to themselves). In some games, the characters talk to themselves + the author adds an emotional explanation (in case you didn't understand). This adds an enormous amount of weight to the narrative.
Here, the same sentences by Vivian can be interpreted in many different ways (perhaps even too many).
It's not easy to place the cursor in the right place.
But that's the strength of this first part. If everything were explained and easy to understand, there would be 50 pages in this forum.
 

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Sure, it's possible that Addison has knowledge - she is close enough to build a picture, to a degree - and she may be keeping records. At this point, it's something else that I'm not theorising though. If nothing else, purely because the story is a lot simpler than I'm sure most of the theories suggest it will be.
I would agree but I also don't think it's just going to end up as your average run of the mill NTR game , all theories aside I have no clue to how it's gonna play out in the end the only thing I would say as it stands and untill we know more from future updates I would say it's all to play for and that we can't rule anything out until something in the game definitively says otherwise
 
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I would agree but I also don't think it's just going to end up as your average run of the mill NTR game , all theories aside I have no clue to how it's gonna play out in the end the only thing I would say as it stands and untill we know more from future updates I would say it's all to play for and that we can't rule anything out until something in the game definitively says otherwise
Keeping in mind the "simple game" part of it, I agree 100% with all of this :ROFLMAO:
 
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Here's a cool fact shared by Sparta158 – in the original version, the first conversation in the office was different (it had a different ending, one kiss, etc.). We can assume that this founding scene caused quite a bit of trouble* for SC Stories, and they tried it in several variations.

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As for Addison and the meeting in the blue suit – on one hand, Addison might have already been used to the visits of "various women" to Chris's office (this also gives context to the scene with the bed and explains Hutch's reluctance to bring his wife to the company), which could explain her irritation. On the other hand, it’s also possible – though we don’t know for sure – that as the secretary, Addison should have been the first to arrive at work. Perhaps she had already seen Vivian earlier (from that first meeting), without Vivian and Chris noticing her.


*I assume that it's really important for the viewer to understand the strong impression Chris made on Vivian.
 
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Keeping in mind the "simple game" part of it, I agree 100% with all of this :ROFLMAO:
By simple game part of it I assume that you mean that it's either going end up going one way or another and that it won't be like this sort of blockbuster ending situation haha which I would agree and let's say for the sake of argument it has two potential endings one good and one bad , what I mean by I don't think it end like most NTR is I don't think it will be like a generic good or bad ending , yes obviously there are certain limitations to what can happen with the ending without going to extremes but I don't think it will be a simple ending of she's leaves him for Christian or they stay together and it's all happy families, hopefully this makes sense even as I was writing it I knew what I wanted to say in my head but trying to put that into a half decent structure or wording was a different story haha
 

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By simple game part of it I assume that you mean that it's either going end up going one way or another and that it won't be like this sort of blockbuster ending situation haha which I would agree and let's say for the sake of argument it has two potential endings one good and one bad , what I mean by I don't think it end like most NTR is I don't think it will be like a generic good or bad ending , yes obviously there are certain limitations to what can happen with the ending without going to extremes but I don't think it will be a simple ending of she's leaves him for Christian or they stay together and it's all happy families, hopefully this makes sense even as I was writing it I knew what I wanted to say in my head but trying to put that into a half decent structure or wording was a different story haha
By "simple game" I just mean that it's relatively straightforward overall, and that there's always been a lot of microanalysis and complex theory building in this thread which don't necessarily sit so well with that. Obviously I have no idea what is going to happen next, or at any time between now and the end of the game, but a simple story can be really well done, and that is what we're seeing here so far, and that in turn lends itself to all of that theory building.
 
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I assume that it's really important for the viewer to understand the strong impression Chris made on Vivian.
I can't help myself, something in me somehow always revolts against this personalization of her attraction. I rather like to think of the boss in relation to Vivian as a replacable guy who is simply there in the right position and situation at the right time in order to get her. Nothing about aura or charisma (I can't see it) or personality. No special connection on that level. No first impression. Just function and power and her projections. I could be wrong though. There are arguments possible in both directions, but given how unmotivated and quick and completely without context her first reaction in the office is, almost automatic rather than personally-emotionally captivated or swept away...
 
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not her attr. - his ;)


The strong impression Chris made on Vivian – it was she who lost her footing.

That's why SC added another kiss/changed the ending of the meeting. It's clear that she simply has "weak knees" from the experience.

In the firstl version, as she was leaving, she throws in a strong comment.

In the final version, she simply leaves stunned, and in the car, she starts to recover.
 
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