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Dr.John Bums

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That would definitely be a climax since she has kept vagina and tits off limits.
Her breasts are only taboo at the very beginning; after that, she allows more and more with them.
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Depending on the choice, even her vagina can feel Erick's glans while she's making popcorn with him.
And in another scene, Erick has already penetrated Raffa's vagina for a moment.
 
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To me it already has with this last update. Kind of everything was forced with Jacuzzi being the big one. Forcing things with Erick who I avoided thus far. Just felt too ntr to me, all choices gone.

The dev used to give us choices, but all gone in last update, and now everything feels forced. The dev has also been pretty silent recently, whoch doesn't help. But after this update, I am done with Rafa and maybe VN unless dev goes back and changes stuff, but doubt he will.
I think the developer will have noticed the feedback.
Perhaps it will be improved in future updates, or it will continue like this and the game will slowly become an NTR KN.
 

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Her breasts are only taboo at the very beginning; after that, she allows more and more with them.
I haven't noticed her allowing them to grope or lick her tits. In the daytime couch scene with Erick and Bruce where she's sucking Bruce and Erick keeps trying her pussy while MC supposed to be on the phone outside Erick still tries to grab her tits and she still immediately pushes his hand away despite how drunk and lost in the heat of the moment she seems.
If you allow Erick to finish instead of interrupting he'll come on her tits instead of her mouth and she'll freak out and again remind us of the titty pact:


I don't recall her saying her pussy would be offlimits forever, only that her tits - Doug's favorite bits - would be only for him. Same way a lot of whores refuse to do anal or whatever claiming that's the one thing they keep reserved for their husband/pimp alone.

edit: Actually Adhdclassic is right, it seems both the breasts and the pussy should be considered taboo/cheating according to the rules she decided entirely by herself:
 
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I think the developer will have noticed the feedback.
Perhaps it will be improved in future updates, or it will continue like this and the game will slowly become an NTR KN.
Im hoping the MC gets more involved in the action instead of just watching. Like would want Bruce and or Erick catch them somewhere and either watch or join in. Maybe down the line. Feel like the MC doesnt get enough action.
 
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I completely forgot there was a pill/choice of path earlier. If the NTS path turns to NTR there's gonna be a lot of drama from the nts-loving ntr-haters.
Seems to be the trend for most NTS games these days, though, doesn't it?

That would definitely be a climax since she has kept vagina and tits off limits.
Yeah, but she's a total whore and will end up doing everyone anyway. And after saying "no" for the whole game Doug will watch and clap like a little kid. The plot, what there is of it, is so predictable. It's basically just a fap simulator at this point...

Im hoping the MC gets more involved in the action instead of just watching. Like would want Bruce and or Erick catch them somewhere and either watch or join in. Maybe down the line. Feel like the MC doesnt get enough action.
If you're expecting the MC to have sex you're in the wrong genre. These MCs are weak and just enjoy watching other men plow their LIs. If anything, she'll come to him later and tell him stories while jacking him off (and it'll be pretty pathetic). That's the genre and nearly all of the games are the same (just different pictures). At least this dev has interesting renders; I'll give him that.
 
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Im pretty sure there will be a DP scene in the future of this game but i dont know what the specifics will be. I hope the MC is involved tho.
That's unlikely. Bruce and Erick consider Doug a stupid nerd whom they've ridiculed and humiliated for years.
Bruce and Erick aren't real friends, they're more played his friends to have sex with his wife.
I suspect that Bruce, at least, played a part in Stacy and Doug's relationship breaking up back then.
Bruce is unlikely to have a threesome with Doug and Raffa, it's just not like him.
And Doug, in turn, can't stand Erick, so that combination is also unlikely.
But on the blue route, an alternative threesome between Doug and Raffa with Jim would be conceivable.
Jim is Doug's only real friend in the story, and Jim respects the boundaries set by Raffa and Doug, so Jim would be a possibility for a threesome.
 

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That's unlikely. Bruce and Erick consider Doug a stupid nerd whom they've ridiculed and humiliated for years.
Bruce and Erick aren't real friends, they're more played his friends to have sex with his wife.
I suspect that Bruce, at least, played a part in Stacy and Doug's relationship breaking up back then.
Bruce is unlikely to have a threesome with Doug and Raffa, it's just not like him.
And Doug, in turn, can't stand Erick, so that combination is also unlikely.
But on the blue route, an alternative threesome between Doug and Raffa with Jim would be conceivable.
Jim is Doug's only real friend in the story, and Jim respects the boundaries set by Raffa and Doug, so Jim would be a possibility for a threesome.
Im pretty sure HD on Patreon said that he plans to have DP. Now depending on future updates we will see how it goes. Cant guarentee anything.
 

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So i replayed that option and the only one that i found was the scene on the couch where he has anal with Raf and Bruce walks in and trys to join. Am i missing another scene? Thanks
You should follow the blue path from the pill-related decisions onwards and prevent Raffa from interacting with the others as much as possible. This will give Doug more action, but I won't spoil everything.
The important thing is to pay attention to all the clues, otherwise you might miss some dialogue, and some scenes might be shorter or even missing entirely.
 
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On the red Path I see it clearly before me. Doug comes Home after a long Workday, goes into the Bedroom and walks straight into Erick and Bruce fucking Raffa senseless in their own Bed. One in her Pussy, the other in her Ass.
 

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On the red Path I see it clearly before me. Doug comes Home after a long Workday, goes into the Bedroom and walks straight into Erick and Bruce fucking Raffa senseless in their own Bed. One in her Pussy, the other in her Ass.
Yeah, uh, no, that's definitely not going to happen.
Doug and Stacy are on vacation.
The scene you're describing is more likely to happen in every sixth cuckold porn film, or maybe in the sequel if we get one.
The NTR threesome probably happens when Doug is distracted, for example, by Stacy.
And it's questionable whether Bruce would even want Erick involved in a threesome.
Maybe he'll invite the pizza delivery guy, the one Raffa already stripped naked in front of and let grab her breasts.
It's still unclear whether and how the developer will continue the story after the vacation.
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Yeah, uh, no, that's definitely not going to happen.
Doug and Stacy are on vacation.
The scene you're describing is more likely to happen in every sixth cuckold porn film, or maybe in the sequel if we get one.
The NTR threesome probably happens when Doug is distracted, for example, by Stacy.
And it's questionable whether Bruce would even want Erick involved in a threesome.
Maybe he'll invite the pizza delivery guy, the one Raffa already stripped naked in front of and let grab her breasts.
It's still unclear whether and how the developer will continue the story after the vacation.
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Not even, when Bruce and Erick want to really stick it into Dougs Face. I would also go so far, that this would be Erick's Idea and Motivation and Bruce and Raffa both under the Influence of Magic Pills. What hinders Erick going that far. He already knows, alone, there is no Way he fucks Raffa, so he will need Bruce. And Bruce doesn't want to share Raffa, that becomes obvious.
 

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I think Doug has low self-esteem, and that could be one reason why he allows himself to be manipulated by Raffa so easily.
Most people who caught their partner cheating would react differently and wouldn't allow themselves to be manipulated like that.
He even states he has no real self-esteem near the beginning of the game:


Replaying and paying closer attention to those early bits instead of fast forwarding it's now clear how he wasn't into any of it at all. It's just Rafa who got turned on by cucking him and used sex to gaslight/brainwash him into believing he liked it too and that he started it. She hypnotized his dick. So on the NTR path you are free to consider his NTS thoughts/tendencies as fake.

Pussy/tits "NTR" so we can fap and then a loyal Stacy for a happier ending, hopefully.

Also every room in the house has a security camera so I'd assume she's actually made aware of every time the MC spied on them, including being aware of the phone hack. Unless those cameras come built into the 3d house model and would've been too much of a bother for the dev to remove?
 
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Not even, when Bruce and Erick want to really stick it into Dougs Face. I would also go so far, that this would be Erick's Idea and Motivation and Bruce and Raffa both under the Influence of Magic Pills. What hinders Erick going that far. He already knows, alone, there is no Way he fucks Raffa, so he will need Bruce. And Bruce doesn't want to share Raffa, that becomes obvious.
I think before we get to a threesome, which might be hinted at or partially shown towards the end of the next update, like the jacuzzi scene.
I think the next thing that happens is the race for Raffa's pussy between Bruce and Erick.
I suspect that, depending on our decision, Raffa will either have vaginal sex with Bruce willingly, or she'll be drugged or given date rape drugs by Erick, or Erick will rape Raffa with brute force.
 
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He even states he has no real self-esteem near the beginning of the game:


Replaying those early bits it's now clear how he wasn't into any of it at all, it's just Rafa who got turned on by it and gaslit/brainwashed him into believing he liked it too and that he started it. She hypnotized his dick.

So a loyal Stacy it is, hopefully.
That's exactly what I've been saying for a long time.
You don't even have to read between the lines to see how Raffa has been manipulating Doug from the very beginning.
It's so obvious.
I think Jim is loyal to Doug, just like Stacy.
Jim tells Doug everything he did with Raffa, including things Raffa tries to hide.
And after Raffa and Jim spend a day together, Jim is more or less a minor character.
Stacy has definitely fallen for Doug again; she tells Erick so in the chat.
That's probably also why Stacy won't let Bruce near her anymore.
It was so hilarious to see Bruce's blueballed for a moment, until his Balls smacked against Raffa's ass :KEK:
 

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Also every room in the house has a security camera so I'd assume she's actually made aware of every time the MC spied on them, including being aware of the phone hack. Unless those cameras come built into the 3d house model and would've been too much of a bother for the dev to remove?
I haven't noticed the cameras so far, and if they are there, Bruce doesn't seem to be using them much.
Otherwise, he'd know that Doug was on his phone and might find the spy app, which could leave Doug feeling very uneasy if he couldn't see what Raffa, Bruce, and Eric were writing without him.
Besides, Doug might simply miss what Raffa was doing with the others.
So that doesn't make much sense.
The cameras could be part of the assets used for the house, as you said, and that's probably the case.
 
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I think Raffa is afraid that Stacy might seduce Doug or even destroy their marriage, and Raffa isn't entirely wrong about that.
But Raffa is the only one destroying the marriage. She's the one who of her own will, dictates all her sexual interactions with Doug's friends. She's the one who, driven by lust, lets herself be carried away in sexual encounters. She's the one who finds more attraction in others instead of her husband. She's the one who shows no respect for her husband. She's made her sexual desires make her husband seem like someone she doesn't want to be with or doesn't respect. So, she alone is destroying the marriage.

Doug simply isn't protecting the marriage. I'm not going to say he's destroying it because he's passive, the active option would be for Doug to tell Raffa what to do in each scenario.

Stacy wants what she lost because she realized that someone like Bruce isn't relationship material for her.

She's just going to pick up what Raffa destroyed, which is her relationship with Doug.

But make no mistake, Raffa would be happy with Bruce as her partner.
 
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