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Four story paths? Do I think there are blue and red paths, or am I missing something?
You can say yes or no to everything on the two main paths, depending on your decisions, there are differences, so there are actually four paths.

Just one example on the red path: at the very end, you can either stay with Stacy and see the scene with her, or you can see what Raffa does with Bruce and Erick.
In both cases, Raffa ends up lying next to Doug in bed with a white fluid leaking from her anus :KEK:
 

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You can say yes or no to everything on the two main paths, depending on your decisions, there are differences, so there are actually four paths.

Just one example on the red path: at the very end, you can either stay with Stacy and see the scene with her, or you can see what Raffa does with Bruce and Erick.
In both cases, Raffa ends up lying next to Doug in bed with a white fluid leaking from her anus :KEK:
Ah, I get it. these are rather ramifications of the main paths. It's great that there is such a thing. I liked this game, I hope it will not be abandoned. and I hope that there will be an opportunity to avoid a bad end on the red route.
 

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Ah, I get it. these are rather ramifications of the main paths. It's great that there is such a thing. I liked this game, I hope it will not be abandoned. and I hope that there will be an opportunity to avoid a bad end on the red route.
From what I know, the Blue Path could definitely end badly.
Doug will be so brainwashed that he'll probably watch Bruce and Erick do Raffa Spitroasts or who knows what they do to her.
And if he turns out to be a real super cuck, he'll probably get to lick the good white stuff out of her and off her until she's ready for a load of oil.
And after the vacation, they'll go home and Raffa will fuck anyone she wants, except Doug, who'll ruin his wrists from constantly masturbating :KEK:

I suspect the red path will progress more quickly.
Raffa will drop more inhibitions in the next updates, and eventually, the last taboo will fall.
I reckon that, depending on the player's choices, they'll witness Raffa becoming increasingly depraved, moving further and further away from the role of wife and into a super slut.

The potential affair between Doug and Stacy will continue, and at some point, Raffa will catch them in the act.
There will likely be an argument, perhaps even a fight between Raffa and Stacy.
After the argument, Doug and Raffa will probably separate.
Doug will then get together with Stacy. Happy ending?

Who knows... I'm just speculating about what the future might hold, but perhaps the developer has something completely different in mind.
 
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Ah, I get it. these are rather ramifications of the main paths. It's great that there is such a thing. I liked this game, I hope it will not be abandoned. and I hope that there will be an opportunity to avoid a bad end on the red route.
That likely depends upon what you consider to be "bad." If you consider the MC ending up either as a humiliated shameless and disrespected cuck or oblivious cuck as "bad" then...
 

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I was thinking, since the last update where Doug had some issues with his Job and HR due to the pic of Raf finding its way to the work group chat. What if Raf and Doug decide to film themselves having some fun and the video gets loose somehow and they find out they can make decent money off Raf's slutty side. Along with Doug losing his job or similar to force them to make money filming. Maybe someone else could add more to this or expand on ideas.
 
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**UPDATE**

Raffela didn't meet Bruce for the first time when she went on this trip, Bruce and Raffela have been having an affair long before the weekend trip ( stacey and Erick are aware of this) stacy is trying to find a way to let doug know. Raffela and Bruce have been taking the piss out of doug all along
 
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**UPDATE**

Raffela didn't meet Bruce for the first time when she went on this trip, Bruce and Raffela have been having an affair long before the weekend trip ( stacey and Erick are aware of this) stacy is trying to find a way to let doug know. Raffela and Bruce have been taking the piss out of doug all along
That's just your opinion or this is in the canon? Because if it's true, it's more heartbreaking for MC and I can love that idea..
 
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I was thinking, since the last update where Doug had some issues with his Job and HR due to the pic of Raf finding its way to the work group chat. What if Raf and Doug decide to film themselves having some fun and the video gets loose somehow and they find out they can make decent money off Raf's slutty side. Along with Doug losing his job or similar to force them to make money filming. Maybe someone else could add more to this or expand on ideas.
That would be more like the end of the Blue Route.
After Doug and Raffa become unemployed.
Then Raffa creates an OnlyFans account, and Doug has to film her videos.
Initially, they would only be videos showing Raffa masturbating.
What Doug doesn't know is that Raffa is looking for partners.
And Doug is shocked when Bruce and Erick show up at their door wanting to have a threesome with Raffa, which Doug then has to film.
The shoot takes place in Doug and Raffa's marital bed, and during it, they make fun of Doug's small penis and publicly humiliate him.

Doug is in a bad place mentally afterward, he can no longer sleep in their marital bed.
Raffa's threesome scene is a success, and a major porn studio approaches her about a long-term contract.
Raffa accepts the contract and divorces Doug.
Doug is left alone, for sometime he have to live off the alimony his ex-wife is obligated to pay.
For Raffa, it's just pocket change, but for Doug, it's another humiliation.

But that'll probably remain just fan fiction.
 
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**UPDATE**

Raffela didn't meet Bruce for the first time when she went on this trip, Bruce and Raffela have been having an affair long before the weekend trip ( stacey and Erick are aware of this) stacy is trying to find a way to let doug know. Raffela and Bruce have been taking the piss out of doug all along
That's nonsense, too little is known about Raffa's past.
We don't even know how long she was in the country before Raffa got together with Doug.
As the story currently stands, there's no indication that Raffa knew Bruce or Doug's other friends beforehand.

That's just your opinion or this is in the canon? Because if it's true, it's more heartbreaking for MC and I can love that idea..
That's more his imagination.
There's no proof for what he writes.
Canonically, Raffa meets Bruce at the beginning of the vacation, and shortly after the introductions, she meets the not-so-little Bruce, who's squashed into Bruce's shorts :KEK:
 
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The other day I was wondering what Raffa would look like in real life.
I came across this woman who looks quite similar And of course Raffa's mother
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The first one at the top looks quite similar to Raffa.

The woman with glasses looks even more like Raffa, but she'd be too young to be her mother.
She's probably around 40 years old.

She could be an older sister or cousin, that would fit better.
It's also possible that Raffa's father had something with one of his wife's sisters, who knows...

Edit:
I found an OnlyFans rip of the second one, funnily enough, it's a German woman living in Switzerland.
 
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Agreed and I don't see enough commenters mention this. As I understand it, the Japanese and Western versions of NTR have very little in common with each other. Since I only play the western games (I find the Japanese too nuanced for me to understand and appreciate) I don't see anything in the games about the outcomes of the betrayals, the self-reflection, character development, or anything else. Just the thrill imaging you are destroying someone's life and mindless fapping to cartoons.
I think you are in the wrong community, I MEAN WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU IN HERE IF YOU HATE CARTOON/3D PORN ? Comic porn/game is an erotic novel something sexy mind blowing erotic stories. Take your preach somewhere !! Not here !!
 

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Raffa was already an exhibitionist before, though it's not certain she was aware of it before the vacation with Bruce.
Yes but we as a player already know she has hidden things from Doug to appear decent. She never gave him Deepthroat before, she didn't wear sexy bikini saying she felt shy!!! etc. And she clearly is a size queen which Doug also finding out.

On the other hand, she apparently doesn't want Doug to start anything with another woman, as she is quite jealous.
Her jealousy becomes even more apparent on the first night at the bar when she finds out that Bruce and Stacy are having an affair and that Stacy is Doug's ex-girlfriend.
The funny thing is she isn't that upset/angry or jealous of Doug with Stacey.
"But she ... she wants Bruce, I see it"
In the red route Doug thinks
She trusts me ... or she doesn't think it's possible for Stacey to after me, instead of Bruce?
She really doesn't take Stacey wanting me seriously .... interesting

So she thinks Stacy won't chase after Doug cause in her subconscious he is loser & not interesting enough to get any other girls attention.


She even claims that everything she lets Bruce do to her ass isn't cheating, since Doug isn't into asses anyway.
Raffa can't really stand Erick, so she reduces him to his penis to force herself to do anything with him.
Raffa only does this to please Bruce.
Bruce, in turn, manipulates Raffa to humiliate his so-called friend Doug once again and make him look like a loser.
In the final kitchen scene they also convince her blowjob isn't cheating (in low lust Blue path she gave the cock a kiss and a light bite), and if player barge into kitchen then she tease Doug of letting him get caught her in giving Bruce a Blowjob even if at this point player never gave her permission for any Blowjob.

Funny thing is she didn't touch Jim's cock cause he didn't gave her permission. But throughout any playthrough Doug never gave her permission to touch Bruce or Erik's dick. She touched Erik's dick when he said she already touched it (accidently) and she gave it a squeeze and tasting his pre-cum (without any consulting), gave handjob and assjob to Bruce in the kitchen (before the 1st pizza guy), let him put his cum in her mouth, indulges him when he asked to answer the door with his cum and show her ass & pussy to a total stranger while bending which also shows her tits (when you hover on the eye icon).
She has done all this without prior agreement or consultation with Doug. Also kissing Bruce wasn't part of the deal.

On one playthrough I only gave her permission to blowjob only Erik & Every other lewd choice I get for Bruce denied it. But in the end of movie night she either let Bruce finger her anal or did anal sex (not sure) but in the Jaccuzzi gave deepthroat to both Bruce and Erik (I know dev can't think of all possible scenarios but ).
But it's too funny to see her interact with Erik's dick like it's on it's own an entity. Also at this point as a player we know Erik's also a boobs guy and wants to fuck her (Bruce is also but he is patient & don't care much which hole he gets). He touches her boobs every now & then and she isn't that bothered by it just remove his hand. Also Jim cums on her tits in the changing room but she don't tell him (maybe it's dev's render fault but everything other is carefully planned so I highly doubt it), same in high lust Blue route when Erik cums on Boobs. She never tells Doug about it in the kitchen.
 

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I suspect that Bruce was also one of the reasons Stacy and Doug broke up.
Actually it's hinted. Stacy wanted to do better so she broke up with generic Doug to be with Bruce (the rich popular kid). She thought it'll advance her career & life but found out that Bruce isn't better than anything other than having a big dick & his money. So she ended up as a dance teacher. Doug actually tries to tell Raffa about Bruce's short comings (he isn't a typical cuck, he likes when someone praises/compliments him) to show his superiority but she always cuts him down. Which is why she was so shocked when Bruce lost to Jim in the pushup dare.

Also don't know if it discussed but after Matrix in popular culture Red Pill means "Harsh Truth/Reality" while Blue Pills means "Blissful ignorance or Oblivious simulation".
I think the Matrix metaphor is intentional by Dev as in the Dark Knight Trilogy movie night Bruce says to Raffa:

1st movie he is in control
2nd movie everything goes chaos
3rd movie is about his resignation, and embracing it

To which Raffa replies:
That's really interesting I feel like sometimes this idea can be applied to real life too...
Bruce: it's all about accepting the darkness within yourself

In the truth or dare game she is already telling him not asking for permission or anything anymore:
"I guess I'm telling you, because I know you'll accept"
And if you refuse the trial Anal she will keep insisting to which Doug will say:
"Babe no, stop insisting"


Also she wasn't acting angry when Doug point out Erik showing his dick to Raffa, she was really angry cause Doug was making a scene until Doug let her know it was acting from his part.

And after the bath scene she confessed every second she spends more time with Bruce's cock she loves it more.
And if she goes into shower with Bruce, after hearing Doug thought they were having sex she says:
"E bello (It's nice) to know you're ready for it."
I think she would have go for it and pressed for it if she thought she was ready enough to take the big cock in her ass.

I think in the High Lust Blue path if Doug didn't gave her permission to Anal Fuck Bruce she will truly go behind his back, or if Doug is too pussy she will break up or make him a cock-caged cuck.
Only in Low Lust Blue path with Alpha Doug she may not go past anal sex. Don't know what the outcome of Low Lust Blue path with Beta Doug would be.
In the red route I think she already got split-roasted by giving Erik a blowjob while getting ass fucked by Bruce.
And if you read Erik's messages he always points out things truthfully like how at the end of update she don't think giving Blowjob is cheating anymore.

I mean at this point her hand, mouth (both for kissing and blowing cock), thigh, Anal sex and pussy job (gave one to Erik) isn't considered cheating anymore (most of them started without consulting Doug or later putting words into his mouth)
 

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Yes but we as a player already know she has hidden things from Doug to appear decent. She never gave him Deepthroat before, she didn't wear sexy bikini saying she felt shy!!! etc. And she clearly is a size queen which Doug also finding out.


The funny thing is she isn't that upset/angry or jealous of Doug with Stacey.
"But she ... she wants Bruce, I see it"
In the red route Doug thinks
She trusts me ... or she doesn't think it's possible for Stacey to after me, instead of Bruce?
She really doesn't take Stacey wanting me seriously .... interesting

So she thinks Stacy won't chase after Doug cause in her subconscious he is loser & not interesting enough to get any other girls attention.




In the final kitchen scene they also convince her blowjob isn't cheating (in low lust Blue path she gave the cock a kiss and a light bite), and if player barge into kitchen then she tease Doug of letting him get caught her in giving Bruce a Blowjob even if at this point player never gave her permission for any Blowjob.

Funny thing is she didn't touch Jim's cock cause he didn't gave her permission. But throughout any playthrough Doug never gave her permission to touch Bruce or Erik's dick. She touched Erik's dick when he said she already touched it (accidently) and she gave it a squeeze and tasting his pre-cum (without any consulting), gave handjob and assjob to Bruce in the kitchen (before the 1st pizza guy), let him put his cum in her mouth, indulges him when he asked to answer the door with his cum and show her ass & pussy to a total stranger while bending which also shows her tits (when you hover on the eye icon).
She has done all this without prior agreement or consultation with Doug. Also kissing Bruce wasn't part of the deal.

On one playthrough I only gave her permission to blowjob only Erik & Every other lewd choice I get for Bruce denied it. But in the end of movie night she either let Bruce finger her anal or did anal sex (not sure) but in the Jaccuzzi gave deepthroat to both Bruce and Erik (I know dev can't think of all possible scenarios but ).
But it's too funny to see her interact with Erik's dick like it's on it's own an entity. Also at this point as a player we know Erik's also a boobs guy and wants to fuck her (Bruce is also but he is patient & don't care much which hole he gets). He touches her boobs every now & then and she isn't that bothered by it just remove his hand. Also Jim cums on her tits in the changing room but she don't tell him (maybe it's dev's render fault but everything other is carefully planned so I highly doubt it), same in high lust Blue route when Erik cums on Boobs. She never tells Doug about it in the kitchen.
That Raffa kept something from Doug is nothing new.
However, Doug isn't much better. He didn't tell Raffa about his past relationship with Stacy when they first met, and it more or less slipped out while he was there.
Doug is already thinking he shouldn't have told her.
Overall, I get the impression that the two of them don't know each other very well.

Raffa is extremely jealous.
She's mainly jealous of Stacy and Bruce, but the fact that Stacy and Doug were together also bothers Raffa.
She accuses Doug of still wanting Stacy and tells him he should share her with Bruce.
That shows she's jealous of Doug too.
It could get interesting if Raffa catches Doug having sex with Stacy.

Raffa isn't sticking to what she and Doug agreed on, whether she thinks it's not cheating, she's too horny to think straight, or she just doesn't give a damn about Doug.
She's not exactly a size queen either.
Jim's penis is about the same size as Doug's, and she still found it hot.
I think Raffa is turned on by the forbidden, that's probably what excites her, plus she's head over heels in love with Bruce.
Bruce is probably the hottest forbidden temptation Raffa has on this vacation.


Erick is extremely jealous of Bruce, his money, and the fact that Raffa always favors Bruce and ignores him.
That's why he forces her to take off her pants behind the bar and makes her feel guilty so he can get her panties as a souvenir.
He's supposed to hide Raffa's panties, but he leaves them lying around for everyone to see. He wants to show Bruce that he was able to manipulate Raffa—hence the selfie—and also let Doug know what happened without saying it outright.
When Doug later tells Raffa that he saw her panties with Erick, Raffa isn't exactly thrilled.
 
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Overall, I get the impression that the two of them don't know each other very well.
They are only married for 2 years, plus in Doug's monologue they didn't want to share their past as Doug is too insecure about his past cause he only had 1 GF (Stacy) and even didn't go too far with her (Only see her naked once just after a week of breaking with him she is bouncing on Bruce's dick, which also made him more insecure, as it's hinted they were in relationship longer than a week :D but he didn't get to see her naked while Bruce done it in a week). Also in his heart he knows a beautiful girl like her has more BF or experience than him.

She accuses Doug of still wanting Stacy and tells him he should share her with Bruce.
Need to check, as far I remember it was Bruce who said he won't mind sharing her with him.
.... That shows she's jealous of Doug too.
Maybe, but that's not my take. She doesn't bother much when it's just Doug & Stacey. But reacts way more when it's Bruce & Stacey which reaction is typical to a jealous wife (My wife didn't talk to me for 2 days cause in her dream I married another woman :oops::ROFLMAO:)

It could get interesting if Raffa catches Doug having sex with Stacy.
Oh! That drama I'm looking forward to if dev is able to pull it off. She was tiny tiny bit upset/protective when Stacy wanted to use Doug as pillow but immediately lets go off it & even encourages Stacy to do it after Bruce points out things and ask for it. It shows how much she listen to Bruce. Also after anal sex with Bruce I think she didn't came for Doug just out of concern but also to manipulate to let him believe he is control (illusion of control Matrix metaphor later confirmed in Movie night talk) cause she knows he heard her submit to him completely (there's also some hush voice talk which I'm pretty sure Doug didn't heard)

Raffa isn't sticking to what she and Doug agreed on
Most times she don't. If you play all routes you get a clear picture of Raffa, she actually don't care much only cares if she goes too far too soon then Doug may leave her which will put her in a bad situation with her family. She didn't care much when her profile picture almost cost Doug his job, she was only concern about her family seeing it. I think Doug also don't care about his job much.

She's not exactly a size queen either.
Jim's penis is about the same size as Doug's, and she still found it hot.
She is. For Erik & Bruce she didn't wait for permission to grab their cock & didn't wait for Bruce permission to give handjob to Bruce or get his cum in her mouth. But didn't touch Jim's cock cause Doug didn't gave permission :ROFLMAO: . She touches Erik's Cock everytime she gets a chance, calms down immediately after Erik puts his dick in her pussy cause Bruce cums in her mouth & make joke about leftover cum while pushing it inside her mouth, she is so forgiving that she lets Erik jerk off himself while sticking her tongue out, if player lets Erik cum he being a asshole intentionally cums on her boobs which she forgives him immediately saying "You're lucky to have such a nice cock, proco"

When Doug later tells Raffa that he saw her panties with Erick, Raffa isn't exactly thrilled.
Yep, she didn't wanted to tell him whole story & specially didn't wanted him to find out she left her panties with Erik. I think if Erik didn't do it, she wouldn't be too hard on him later on. Being a over jealous asshole he didn't think it through otherwise he would've got much better receptive Raffa as it's shows she is in love with his dick also (Really loved her eye following his dick scenes)
 
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She is. For Erik & Bruce she didn't wait for permission to grab their cock & didn't wait for Bruce permission to give handjob to Bruce or get his cum in her mouth. But didn't touch Jim's cock cause Doug didn't gave permission :ROFLMAO: . She touches Erik's Cock everytime she gets a chance, calms down immediately after Erik puts his dick in her pussy cause Bruce cums in her mouth & make joke about leftover cum while pushing it inside her mouth, she is so forgiving that she lets Erik jerk off himself while sticking her tongue out, if player lets Erik cum he being a asshole intentionally cums on her boobs which she forgives him immediately saying "You're lucky to have such a nice cock, proco"
You're wrong about that.
The reason she sometimes holds back around Jim is that she knows Doug and Jim are best friends, and Jim will probably talk to Doug.
More than big dicks, she's into making her husband a cuckold, and anyone who seems even remotely attractive to her is good enough to cheat on Doug and humiliate him again.

They are only married for 2 years, plus in Doug's monologue they didn't want to share their past as Doug is too insecure about his past cause he only had 1 GF (Stacy) and even didn't go too far with her (Only see her naked once just after a week of breaking with him she is bouncing on Bruce's dick, which also made him more insecure, as it's hinted they were in relationship longer than a week :D but he didn't get to see her naked while Bruce done it in a week). Also in his heart he knows a beautiful girl like her has more BF or experience than him.
You'd think a couple would know each other better before they get married than Doug and Raffa do after two years of marriage.
I've never been married, but after about two weeks I knew practically everything about my last girlfriend.
I knew her life story, which kindergarten she went to, which schools she attended, who she dated before me, what kind of porn she liked to watch, etc.
 
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You're wrong about that.
Okay, maybe. But she calls only Doug's dick little friend in every route.
The reason she sometimes holds back around Jim is that she knows Doug and Jim are best friends, and Jim will probably talk to Doug.
Okay, I agree with this. Do you think if she wasn't suspicious of Jim messaging Doug in the changing room, she would've gone further?
More than big dicks, she's into making her husband a cuckold, and anyone who seems even remotely attractive to her is good enough to cheat on Doug and humiliate him again.
That I've a mixed feeling about. Yes, she wants to make him cuckold, that I totally agree. She tries to manipulate every chance she gets & most times puts words in his mouth & humiliates him every now & then in pure Blue route & fully in red or High Blue route. But if everyone was almost same size as Jim, a little better than Doug would she be hell bent on getting fucked?

And I totally agree with you that she is in love with Bruce not just his dick. She loves how he takes what he owns (She also loved when Doug did the same), how he is forward with his advances, how he gave her full attention etc.

You'd think a couple would know each other better before they get married than Doug and Raffa do after two years of marriage.
I've never been married, but after about two weeks I knew practically everything about my last girlfriend.
I knew her life story, which kindergarten she went to, which schools she attended, who she dated before me, what kind of porn she liked to watch, etc.
Okay, English isn't my first language and I may have expressed it wrongly. I totally agree with you. My wife knows/understand things about me like a witch (it's frightening sometimes). And most of the times I'm also right on mark (the few times I don't get it, I put the blame on her hormonal mode swing, not my fault :sneaky:).
What I wanted to say is in Porn games/Erotica the timelines 99% time is messed up, couple married in these stories for 10 years but behaves like they just meet a day ago before the story started.
 
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