VN Others Abandoned My Lovely Sara [v0.6] [Caizer Games]

[AJBit]

Why, are you planning to steal his game out from under him? If Caizer wants to sue for damages or something, he should register officially for copyright (if he hasn't already). However, from the moment you create something

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. Since he also lists it on his Patreon page and it's been publicly there for a long time now, it could be pretty easy to claim his own copyright, depending on in what court the case might land.

Since I'm not he, I can't say what he may or may not have done. But I think your attitude is disgusting. Assuming what you suggest were true, you imply that if someone can't afford to sue over their creative work somehow that justifies stealing it from them. If nothing else, I find that morally reprehensible. There's a huge difference between downloading someone's creation without permission to play it and trying to take their creation from them entirely and claim it as your own.

Registration is required to seek statutory damages. Caizer doesn't want anything to do with this game lol. Why would he seek damages? First he'd have to prove someone is using his "game" to make money he would have otherwise made. An idea can't be copyrighted so he'd have to make the case for the use of his unique assets if he even has any.

And the amount of money "made" would have to be large enough to make it worthwhile for attornies to be actionable anyway.

Also Caizer effectively abandoned his copyright anyway. See.


"Copyright may also be abandoned if the owner “performs some overt act indicating an intention to abandon.”

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., 154 F.3d 1107, 1114 (9th Cir. 1998).

Abandonment of copyright (sometimes referred to as waiver) . . . constitutes an effective defense in an infringement action.”

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., 15-cv-03578, 2016 WL 6892097, at *9 (C.D. Cal. Aug. 11, 2016).

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

Registration is required to seek statutory damages. Caizer doesn't want anything to do with this game lol. Why would he seek damages? First he'd have to prove someone is using his "game" to make money he would have otherwise made. An idea can't be copyrighted so he'd have to make the case for the use of his unique assets if he even has any.

And the amount of money "made" would have to be large enough to make it worthwhile for attornies to be actionable anyway.

Also Caizer effectively abandoned his copyright anyway. See.


"Copyright may also be abandoned if the owner “performs some overt act indicating an intention to abandon.”

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., 154 F.3d 1107, 1114 (9th Cir. 1998).

Abandonment of copyright (sometimes referred to as waiver) . . . constitutes an effective defense in an infringement action.”

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., 15-cv-03578, 2016 WL 6892097, at *9 (C.D. Cal. Aug. 11, 2016).

Not sure why you'd cite as support for your point a case where "Under the totality of the circumstances, the court rejects [the] waiver and abandonment defenses, and finds that the use of the screen scenes . . . did infringe upon movant's copyrighted creations". In that first case you linked the court found against claim of free use of the material, not for it. Also, the phrase you're supposedly quoting here isn't even found in the case ruling; just searching that document for any of the following single words from your quote here shows no results: performs, overt, intention. The word intent does show some hits, but none of them match your quote.

On the matter of waiving rights, Caizer has said specifically he plans to get back to this game after he hits a certain financial goal. He might never hit that goal, but I don't call that copyright waiver or willful abandonment. However, the burden has becoming increasingly heavier on plaintiffs in cases, whereas defendants aren't nearly as restrictive. So actually winning a court case on the matter is much more difficult, it's true.

In any case, it doesn't matter. I've already said my piece. You can obviously try to do what you want and see what happens. It's very possible there would be no consequence at all.

 

[ILCjr]

Registration is required to seek statutory damages. Caizer doesn't want anything to do with this game lol. Why would he seek damages? First he'd have to prove someone is using his "game" to make money he would have otherwise made. An idea can't be copyrighted so he'd have to make the case for the use of his unique assets if he even has any.

And the amount of money "made" would have to be large enough to make it worthwhile for attornies to be actionable anyway.

Also Caizer effectively abandoned his copyright anyway. See.


"Copyright may also be abandoned if the owner “performs some overt act indicating an intention to abandon.”

You must be registered to see the links

., 154 F.3d 1107, 1114 (9th Cir. 1998).

Abandonment of copyright (sometimes referred to as waiver) . . . constitutes an effective defense in an infringement action.”

You must be registered to see the links

., 15-cv-03578, 2016 WL 6892097, at *9 (C.D. Cal. Aug. 11, 2016).

One thing that you need to be careful about on this defense is that the developer still has it up as one of their works on their active patreon page. Just because3 they have said they are putting on the back burner for now, does not always constitute abandonment.

 

[cream pie]

One thing that you need to be careful about on this defense is that the developer still has it up as one of their works on their active patreon page. Just because3 they have said they are putting on the back burner for now, does not always constitute abandonment.

Back burner is another excuse for no fk is given. Just like early access bs

 

[Backdoorman]

Man, just found this game. Are there no plans at all to continue? This was great!

 

[Hellster]

Man, just found this game. Are there no plans at all to continue? This was great!

It's been nearly 3 years, so highly doubtful

 

[RYOUSC]

Man, I like this game better than Dev's current game. Hope this will continue someday.

 

[Ali ibn Hassan]

Saaaaraa!
Come back to Daddy!
I'm out of wank!

 

[UnDoubleUpUhUh]

Man, just found this game. Are there no plans at all to continue? This was great!

No, but the dev does have another game, Happy Summer, in which you can simulate a life with more tedium and monotony than even the most mundane parts of your real life, with interesting lewd scenes happening magnitudes less frequently than if you exclusively sat alone in your living room watching science documentaries by day and simply allowed your normal REM sleep to function as intended, without actually trying to trigger sexy time dreams while you sleep.

You can also support the dev on Patreon, which you might like, because, as a patron, you will gain access to dev's exclusive Discord channel, where if you so much as ask the most innocuous question about this game, you will be insta-banned for life.

Because the dev loves his patrons.

 

[Yesss Daddyyy]

Alright, so this young babe is totally my jam, gotta admit. She's like a damn angel, no lie.

 

[ImperialD]

well i wondered what happened to this awesome game ... sad it got abandoned

 

[Borckan]

Is there Android version?

 

[Falco Falcone]

One of (my) Life's true tragedies. This girl, Sara, is one of the most gorgeous and appealing characters I've ever encountered in the AVN genre. It's a real tragedy that it seems certain by now that this will never get the full (if any more) attention of this clearly highly talented Developer.

I guess we'll all just have to be...well, I certainly am anyway...thankful for the amount, the richness and clearly the amount of effort put into the content there is here, but despite the undoubted cuteness of the title for which the Dev(s) sadly decided to forsake this little gem, I'm afraid I'm not impressed nearly enough by "Happy Summer" to want to subscribe to it.

However, if by some miracle, Caizer Games ever actually completes "Happy Summer" and decides to turn their attention back to "My Lovely Sara" I shall not hesitate to jump on board and help support so worthy a cause as this.

 

[adlibaroony]

We trusting this developer? TO this day still? LMAO!

 

[laydischoice]

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Vote 'My Lovely Sara Remake'

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

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Vote 'My Lovely Sara Remake'

Anyone who's complained that My Lovely Sara was delayed now has the chance to vote for it to come before Caizer's other plans. Up to you all, but I personally would think it's worth the effort to let the dev know you really want this game finally to be done instead of something else.

 

[baka]

the supporters want happy summer remake. 81% vs 19% (right now)
I dont understand how but thats how it is. happy summer is one of the most boring VN I ever played. and ugly models at that.

 

[Walter Victor]

Anyone who's complained that My Lovely Sara was delayed now has the chance to vote for it to come before Caizer's other plans. Up to you all, but I personally would think it's worth the effort to let the dev know you really want this game finally to be done instead of something else.

The voting is not even close, and this game is losing by a landslide. Pity.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

the supporters want happy summer remake. 81% vs 19% (right now)
I dont understand how but thats how it is. happy summer is one of the most boring VN I ever played. and ugly models at that.

The voting is not even close, and this game is losing by a landslide. Pity.

That sucks. I especially don't get what Caizer is trying to do with that. Even if you liked Happy Summer, why would you want it remade all over again? So you can wander around and see 3D versions of the girls that will resemble something you see in Unity or Unreal? It makes no sense whatsoever to me. I think of games I've really enjoyed (ofc won't list them here) that were VNs — or hell, even sandbox games with VN-style scenes — and can't imagine changing them to the freeroam equivalent being anything but a huge downgrade from what exists already. Visually, the quality the games have is in the scenes themselves and the still renders / animations, not in how vast the view distance makes the city seem or whatever. How would the remake accomplish anything good, other than making it open world so there's more running around? I don't get the appeal in the slightest. [sigh]

 

[Walter Victor]

That sucks. I especially don't get what Caizer is trying to do with that. Even if you liked Happy Summer, why would you want it remade all over again? So you can wander around and see 3D versions of the girls that will resemble something you see in Unity or Unreal? It makes no sense whatsoever to me. I think of games I've really enjoyed (ofc won't list them here) that were VNs — or hell, even sandbox games with VN-style scenes — and can't imagine changing them to the freeroam equivalent being anything but a huge downgrade from what exists already. Visually, the quality the games have is in the scenes themselves and the still renders / animations, not in how vast the view distance makes the city seem or whatever. How would the remake accomplish anything good, other than making it open world so there's more running around? I don't get the appeal in the slightest. [sigh]

Well, if you like to make money, and you can't think up a good idea for a new game, it's a lot easier to recycle what you've already done, and just go into remake mode for a while. Ka-ching!

As I am not a Patron, I am perhaps being a little harsh. I'm not opposed to a developer making money, and he is asking them which game to remake, after all. But, the chances of my ever becoming a Patron of his are precisely nil. Nor am I likely to download or play a remake.