Pr0GamerJohnny

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Well, that's just rude. I didn't intend to start any argument, I already explained what I wanted to say in the response to Rubicon, so let's just stop it at this.

> BBC gooners being disappointed
really? the only non-BBC male that gets any considerable action is the MC (and even he gets BBC flashbacks while fucking his gf), so the only way there could be more BBC is having a black MC. Well unless the BBC gooners crave for race-themed humiliation, then I can understand your annoyance (and their disappointment)
but anyway, I'm not complaining or anything, nor am I arguing, my point is and was that the amount of BBC content in this game will be the most off-putting aspect for people expecting vanilla. The other themes present in the game will not be as confusing for vanilla lovers, and I think I provided enough substance to back this argument.
I've already said the following to symbiotic so he knows and can disregard lest I sound like a broken record-

I think one of the big narrative mistakes that increases this feeling of bbc central is having mc's best friend - and notably the only other white guy their age in game - become a cuckold character. If Sai had developed into more of a sexual peer (or competitor) - it might feel more balanced.

While some tire of the same complaints on this subject- I think people (particularly the development team) need to get real about how much bbc stuff has outpaced other fetish content in game. It's not like we've had multiple sex scenes with anya or the mom, or multiple ntr/swinger scenes with vi and other guys, or take your pick of any other fetish/theme.

-edit; i just noticed sinisterP summarized this in an earlier post, yeah I think the sheer volume is getting glossed over
 

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I think there are few points which needs to be addressed.

Game is financially succesful, there is no doubt in that. But there is also no need to be act like it is all rainbows and sunshine when it is clear its growth is slowing down. If you are familiar with the stock market you will realize that patreon sheet you just put isn't giving the best signs. Gaining 900 subs in first 6 months and then 450 next in the remaining 6 means there are things which people don't like. And it is not about reaching to the soft cap, there are dozens of games whoich reach ten thousands subs, so getting stuck at 1300s isn't a great sign.

I think aside from slow updates the main issue is the game is trying to do everything in the name of being original (That is an excuse). And while i agree people are always demanding to see their fetishes in this game, you can't change the customer so you need to adjust yourself. And catering to every side is the worst way to do it.

Like seriously, i don't even know what this game is about at this point. Is it a bbc heavy cuckolding game? Because clearly there are signs for that. But it also feels like a harem game since every LI throwing themselves to MC (or will throw, that is apperant too.). And that is not original, even if it is, it is not good. You can mix cola and apple juice and some other bunch of shit and call it original. Well you just created a mess.

There is a reason companies follow specific formulas while creating games. Harem and nts/ntr just don't go together, there is literally no good example of kinetic novel with the main themes of harem and NTS.
 

palmtrees89

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But there is also no need to be act like it is all rainbows and sunshine when it is clear its growth is slowing down.
That is a very much normal thing to happen, be it in stocks or crowd funding. The initial hype attracts a ton of "investors" followed by a (hopefully) stable and consistent growth with the occasional drops inbetween.

If you are familiar with the stock market you will realize that patreon sheet you just put isn't giving the best signs.
If you were familiar with the stock market you'd realize that what you just said is nonsense. No stock, game or whatever is skyrocketing with no end. What you want is stability and consistent growth without it plummeting over night until it's dead weight. It's not like BitCoin went from 0 to where it is now within 15 months either. There have been massive stretches of nothingness, peaks, drops... That's just how it is.

And it is not about reaching to the soft cap, there are dozens of games whoich reach ten thousands subs, so getting stuck at 1300s isn't a great sign.
There is a cap on everything, no matter what the product may be and any diagram I'd provide would support that. He isn't "stuck" either as the diagram I provided clearly shows. Even if he eventually reaches the "cap", stability is what matters most.

Gaining 900 subs in first 6 months and then 450 next in the remaining 6 means there are things which people don't like.
That just means it's taking it's natural course with limited demand like anything else. It just so happens that the demand is currently lower compared to other products aswell as other factors playing a not insignificant role. People not liking the content provided is obviously part of it, but the same applies to every other product on the market no matter how big it is.

It's not like CG needs 50.000 subscribers for it to work out for him or 10.000 new subscribers every other month. Stability is key, and making it to the top 0.6% within 15 months is a major success. Bottom line: I highly disagree with your "bad signs" argument. You could talk about bad signs if the game happens to lose support, but certainly not when it's gaining more of it. lol
 

palmtrees89

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shame no one shares patreon posts here.. no clues on how new version coming along
https://f95zone.to/threads/my-new-girlfriend-after-party-v2-circlegames.207440/post-17744293

There's a Patreon post. Sounds very much like he's trying to release this month. Even if it turns out to be a September release, my guess is we're only weeks away. I don't get how there's constantly people asking for devblogs or how nobody is posting them when it's literally been posted a couple days ago. lol
 

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That is a very much normal thing to happen, be it in stocks or crowd funding. The initial hype attracts a ton of "investors" followed by a (hopefully) stable and consistent growth with the occasional drops inbetween.


If you were familiar with the stock market you'd realize that what you just said is nonsense. No stock, game or whatever is skyrocketing with no end. What you want is stability and consistent growth without it plummeting over night until it's dead weight. It's not like BitCoin went from 0 to where it is now within 15 months either. There have been massive stretches of nothingness, peaks, drops... That's just how it is.


There is a cap on everything, no matter what the product may be and any diagram I'd provide would support that. He isn't "stuck" either as the diagram I provided clearly shows. Even if he eventually reaches the "cap", stability is what matters most.


That just means it's taking it's natural course with limited demand like anything else. It just so happens that the demand is currently lower compared to other products aswell as other factors playing a not insignificant role. People not liking the content provided is obviously part of it, but the same applies to every other product on the market no matter how big it is.

It's not like CG needs 50.000 subscribers for it to work out for him or 10.000 new subscribers every other month. Stability is key, and making it to the top 0.6% within 15 months is a major success. Bottom line: I highly disagree with your "bad signs" argument. You could talk about bad signs if the game happens to lose support, but certainly not when it's gaining more of it. lol
Except good amount of people simply sub and forget. I have a youtube subscription and i say "Well it is just 5 dollars it can stay" and i know i won't ever use it. ICSTOR of all people have still 2000 subscribers. So using stability argument for patreon doesn't make much sense.

We can never determine what is the soft cap for this genre no matter how much we discuss it. Just like we can't really know how much of the support is coming from botlike subscribers. I stand my ground. Is the game successful? Sure. Is it losing steam? Sure.

I don't care if this is enough for CG, i don't know his standarts. What i am simply saying was this game could get more support if CG wasn't catering to everyone and instead focused on game to release faster updates. Netorase Phone is making two times more money than this (Which i also criticize heavily, since it is not even a game). So there is no way i believe 1300s is the soft cap for NTS genre.
 

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Except good amount of people simply sub and forget. I have a youtube subscription and i say and i know i won't ever use it. ICSTOR of all people have still 2000 subscribers. So using stability argument for patreon doesn't make much sense.
I'm gonna be real here. Nothing about what you said there makes any sense whatsoever. If people forget they subscribe and have the same mentality you have regarding Youtube, that only adds to a stable income for the developer if anything. I'm just gonna disregard your baseless claim that a "good amount of people simply sub and forget", but... What on earth are you even saying? Lmao

We can never determine what is the soft cap for this genre no matter how much we discuss it. Just like we can't really know how much of the support is coming from botlike subscribers. I stand my ground. Is the game successful? Sure. Is it losing steam? Sure.
Nobody is trying to determine a cap, whatever that's supposed to mean. I can only repeat myself; What are you even yapping about? Where is this "botlike" aka "people forget they are subbed" thing coming from all of a sudden? How is that relevant to anything? I was addressing your previous post quite thoroughly and you come up with random unrelated nonsense. Uh...Ok?

I explained to you how initial hype attracts lots of people and that nothing will skyrocket with no end. So again, everything you see here is very much normal. You started talking about the stock market but clearly you've got absolutely no clue what you're saying.

I don't care if this is enough for CG, i don't know his standarts. What i am simply saying was this game could get more support if CG wasn't catering to everyone and instead focused on game to release faster updates. Netorase Phone is making two times more money than this (Which i also criticize heavily, since it is not even a game). So there is no way i believe 1300s is the soft cap for NTS genre.
You criticize pretty much any game heavily seeing your post history. You said MNGF isn't a game either, even tho you addressed it as such before. Again talking about this cap nonsense. If you don't care what's enough for CG, why do you keep talking about it? Nobody said "1300 is the soft cap for NTS". Are you confused or something?
 
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I'm a backer, from everything I've seen I've got no reason to believe the next update isn't coming out in the next few weeks (likely before the end of the month). Overall, the dev of this game has always struck me as really honest on when issues come up and progress, and although the updates might not be as frequent as other games I'm always impressed with the amount of content.

That said, the only people sadder than the folks who post in degenerate porn game pirate forums are the people who decide to start fights in them. Keep it classy fuckers.
 

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I'm a backer, from everything I've seen I've got no reason to believe the next update isn't coming out in the next few weeks (likely before the end of the month). Overall, the dev of this game has always struck me as really honest on when issues come up and progress, and although the updates might not be as frequent as other games I'm always impressed with the amount of content.

That said, the only people sadder than the folks who post in degenerate porn game pirate forums are the people who decide to start fights in them. Keep it classy fuckers.
Not angrying you because I disagree with content of your message, I just loathe misused transition words in service of false evenhandedness. Unless english is a second language for you; and in that case I do apologize.
 

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Folks. Violet outfit teaser dropped yesterday then that means we are closer to the game release date . But honestly i dont like the adding of new girl and i bet she is a gyaru . It would have been so much better if he added more scene, renders to other, current girls than adding a new girl but thats just my opinion. And lastly the day is coming and I hope many international foreign heroes from all over the world will come and unite on the fateful day
 

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Folks. Violet outfit teaser dropped yesterday then that means we are closer to the game release date . But honestly i dont like the adding of new girl and i bet she is a gyaru . It would have been so much better if he added more scene, renders to other, current girls than adding a new girl but thats just my opinion. And lastly the day is coming and I hope many international foreign heroes from all over the world will come and unite on the fateful day
Any news about the official date?
 
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Not regular in the thread but pretty sure most post are offtopic and people ranting and complaining. But damn he is milking it for real(i have no problem whatsoever , but it shld be in moderation ) as it would be beneficial that way in long term unless one want to keep doing this single project for 3-4 yrs
 

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Not regular in the thread but pretty sure most post are offtopic and people ranting and complaining. But damn he is milking it for real(i have no problem whatsoever , but it shld be in moderation ) as it would be beneficial that way in long term unless one want to keep doing this single project for 3-4 yrs
the milking accusations have already been discussed to oblivion in the past, and have lowered in constancy because people understand that's not the case. But you don't frequent this thread that much, so not your fault for not knowing.

So for the peace of the thread, my friend. Let's not dwell on the past. We get your frustration, really. Such a great game that changed up it's routine with the dlcs can be looked at as something to be wary of. But let's not beat a dead horse here.
 
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I see the BBC debate has flared up again.

It's been said many times that BBC isn't the main theme of the game, just one of many. But the discussion keeps coming up again and again, like a broken record.

I think I understand why this happens. Many people like the game and are afraid it might turn into a cliched BBC plot. However, personally I don't see any reason for concern. I'm sure the author won't copy tired stereotypes.

I'm not a BBC fan myself, and here's why:
In almost all NTR/NTS games where I've seen black characters, they seem to be made at the same factory - huge, unnaturally muscular, with rough faces and, of course, the obligatory "giant package".

The plot methods are equally predictable: deception, coercion, framing, betrayal, violence, blackmail, drugs... When you see the same thing over and over, it inevitably becomes irritating.

Recently I played an NTR game where the MC had a black friend. At first he seemed like a good guy, but as soon as an opportunity arose, he immediately started blackmailing the MC into letting him sleep with his wife. At that moment I mentally sighed: "Here we go again..."

When I first played MNG and saw the neighbor introduction scene (when his face took up almost the whole screen), my first thought was: "Oh, you here too? Did you move here from another game specifically to annoy me again?"

But the recent updates convinced me that the author isn't planning to make a cliched BBC story.
The new neighbors are just normal people: the father works at a club, the sons are athletes. No criminal activity, no violence, no blackmail or spiked drinks. They're just a family with... peculiar interests who offer: "Want to have fun together?", but don't force anyone.

That's exactly why BBC in MNG doesn't put me off. What's more, in my opinion, the very fact that the game features black characters who are just regular people (no drug dealers, no criminals, no typical NTR villains) already makes it worthy of the 'NTS Game of the Year' title.
 

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the milking accusations have already been discussed to oblivion in the past, and have lowered in constancy because people understand that's not the case. But you don't frequent this thread that much, so not your fault for not knowing.

So for the peace of the thread, my friend. Let's not dwell on the past. We get your frustration, really. Such a great game that changed up it's routine with the dlcs can be looked at as something to be wary of. But let's not beat a dead horse here.
It's always the same, just before the update comes, people lose their minds. Milker here Milker there. I bet most of the people complaining here aren't even paying members on Patreon. 3 months plus minus is fine for an update. Just as an aside, there's enough content in the MNGF fanart thread almost every day. You can get one there every day.
 

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It's always the same, just before the update comes, people lose their minds. Milker here Milker there. I bet most of the people complaining here aren't even paying members on Patreon. 3 months plus minus is fine for an update. Just as an aside, there's enough content in the MNGF fanart thread almost every day. You can get one there every day.
It's fine, the other guy gets a pass. he doesn't frequent this thread that much.
 
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