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Anyone have any recommendations that are similar to this? Found this story to be very enjoyable.
Moonripple Lake and Shadow of Ambition (Welcome to Port Haven is often mentioned alongside but I haven't played it yet) are the two other big Netorase VNs with AI CGs, they're not exactly the same tonally but it's the same vibe and very high CG quality, then if you leave the classical VN style you have a bunch of texting based NTS games like Netorase Phone (my favorite of the bunch, but very different in tone to this one) or SextingMyGF.

And of course there's a lot more if you leave the confines of AI CGs. NTR/NTS are a big genre.
 
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Certainly doesn't seem that way and the creator apparently agrees it was mishandled. Her sudden extreme behavior after how she acted in a much safer environment with her boyfriend egging her on is quite simply bad writing.
Yeah it is that way. A lot of people like how it turned out, but they're not constantly trying to convince people otherwise.

The developer is redoing the scene with Anya, because he didn't like that one as per a post in the off topic thread. He didn't mention a thing about the ending with Vi at the photoshoot.
I don't know how many times I have to say this, but if you pay attention to the dialogue, the build up, Vi's relationship with Arianna, her inner dialogue and her past, you quickly come to realize she's not that innocent, loves attention from other men and is a very sexual creature. You guys are just putting her on a pedestal and projecting some romanticized wholesome vision of her and demand everyone else sees the same thing.

I also happen to think his writing is fine and aligns well with the erotic development of the game. It's just strange to me how some people expect Pulzter prize writing out of adult visual novels and some weird semblance of reality in situations that are far from reality.
Maybe Morning Glory Milking Farm is more your speed.
 

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You guys are just putting her on a pedestal and projecting some romanticized wholesome vision of her and demand everyone else sees the same thing.
Noooooo she's pure like an angel, all pictures she sends are photoshoped by devil BAKA Ari, I bet she will marry Erik at some point(we just need to wait couple chapters), don't let brute Bruce corrupt her pretty plz... she already showed him not 1 but 2 sacred nipples, all the scenes are Eriks dreams with her, she might be a virgin still.
 
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Certainly doesn't seem that way and the creator apparently agrees it was mishandled. Her sudden extreme behavior after how she acted in a much safer environment with her boyfriend egging her on is quite simply bad writing.
Not that there's much to add after yourmomma's post (that sounds weird lol), but here's what CG posted:

Am I changing stuff because of those things? No, sometimes things get rushed in the art and in the writting department and after the release and a bit of rest I think the Anya scene deserves a little more care and the dialogue needs a different aproach in order to bring out more of Anya's personality, the scene needs to be more wholesome, cute and awkward to fit the charachter and the relation. Right now the dialogue in that scene might be hot and well written but doesn't really showcase the best of Anya and what she can bring to the table. This is not the thinking of someone that is cattering to a specific group of critics ok? I'm know what I'm doing and I feel like a fool for not writting it and not seeing the mistakes the first time but sometimes the work gets messy and I can loose sight of some key elements, nothing that can't be fixed.
I don't see where he agrees on Vi's scene being mishandled. Can only repeat myself; I'd suggest playing through Ch05 again in case you've only been playing the initial release version.

What I think was "mishandled" is the cliffhanger we're left on. But as I said before, I'm assuming that happened because CG bit off more than he could chew in the time he gave himself and so it's missing the conclusion, a true ending to the scene and more fleshed out explanation as to what's going on. :)

He did work on the final scene, that much we do know.
 

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Noooooo she's pure like an angel, all pictures she sends are photoshoped by devil BAKA Ari, I bet she will marry Erik at some point(we just need to wait couple chapters), don't let brute Bruce corrupt her pretty plz... she already showed him not 1 but 2 sacred nipples, all the scenes are Eriks dreams with her, she might be a virgin still.
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Yeah it is that way. A lot of people like how it turned out, but they're not constantly trying to convince people otherwise.

The developer is redoing the scene with Anya, because he didn't like that one as per a post in the off topic thread. He didn't mention a thing about the ending with Vi at the photoshoot.
I don't know how many times I have to say this, but if you pay attention to the dialogue, the build up, Vi's relationship with Arianna, her inner dialogue and her past, you quickly come to realize she's not that innocent, loves attention from other men and is a very sexual creature. You guys are just putting her on a pedestal and projecting some romanticized wholesome vision of her and demand everyone else sees the same thing.

I also happen to think his writing is fine and aligns well with the erotic development of the game. It's just strange to me how some people expect Pulzter prize writing out of adult visual novels and some weird semblance of reality in situations that are far from reality.
Maybe Morning Glory Milking Farm is more your speed.
Hardly has anything to do with her needing to be pure but rather having a consistent character. Also, it was previously stated that Vi and Eric would maintain their relationship and that it wouldn't just be her becoming a wanton slut leaving Eric behind. As far as having bad writing because it's porn, that excuse is nonsensical. As well as acting as if people can't critique poor writing in general or that certain writing shouldn't be adjusted. There's a reason every professional writer has to work with an editor.
Not that there's much to add after yourmomma's post (that sounds weird lol), but here's what CG posted:


I don't see where he agrees on Vi's scene being mishandled. Can only repeat myself; I'd suggest playing through Ch05 again in case you've only been playing the initial release version.

What I think was "mishandled" is the cliffhanger we're left on. But as I said before, I'm assuming that happened because CG bit off more than he could chew in the time he gave himself and so it's missing the conclusion, a true ending to the scene and more fleshed out explanation as to what's going on. :)

He did work on the final scene, that much we do know.
You can keep passively aggressively saying I am playing wrong but again, I would suggest you replay her scene in the alley with Eric. Once again, how is she acting so nervously about giving a handjob to Eric's best friend that her and Eric have mutually been teasing leading up to this. To then having no problem deepthroating a random guy with Eric having no involvement? That's the problem and completely inconsistent both with the build up of the previous update, the portrayal of the character, and the supposed vibe of their relationship as it has been presented until now. I get certain people just want as many gonzo sex scenes as possible in every game, which is fine, but there's also plenty of other mediums that provide that. In the case of visual novels/erotica like this, the difference maker is the writing and story.
 

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Hardly has anything to do with her needing to be pure but rather having a consistent character. Also, it was previously stated that Vi and Eric would maintain their relationship and that it wouldn't just be her becoming a wanton slut leaving Eric behind. As far as having bad writing because it's porn, that excuse is nonsensical. As well as acting as if people can't critique poor writing in general or that certain writing shouldn't be adjusted. There's a reason every professional writer has to work with an editor.

You can keep passively aggressively saying I am playing wrong but again, I would suggest you replay her scene in the alley with Eric. Once again, how is she acting so nervously about giving a handjob to Eric's best friend that her and Eric have mutually been teasing leading up to this. To then having no problem deepthroating a random guy with Eric having no involvement? That's the problem and completely inconsistent both with the build up of the previous update, the portrayal of the character, and the supposed vibe of their relationship as it has been presented until now. I get certain people just want as many gonzo sex scenes as possible in every game, which is fine, but there's also plenty of other mediums that provide that. In the case of visual novels/erotica like this, the difference maker is the writing and story.
CG is silent about upcoming silver update or DLC for a while now and I think there more thing that will be re-done.(he planned silver release to be made almost a week ago) Firstly Luke and all new major cameos are gone from MNGF, it's confirmed by Abyss(SoA dev) so the scene already needs some changes whether it be just Bruce bj, or complite change of pace. If i remember correctly he also said on his patreon about the last scene - he wants 1st to extend it, 2nd change the tone to match slowburn expirience that project aims for.

My hopes are and frankly I have a gut filling we'll see it on this weekend.
Ps. Unless CG sees my post and won't do it just to fuck around.
 

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CG is silent about upcoming silver update or DLC for a while now and I think there more thing that will be re-done.(he planned silver release to be made almost a week ago) Firstly Luke and all new major cameos are gone from MNGF, it's confirmed by Abyss(SoA dev) so the scene already needs some changes whether it be just Bruce bj, or complite change of pace If i remember correctly he also said on his patreon about the last scene - he wants 1st to extend it, 2nd change the tone to match slowburn expirience that project aims for.

My hopes are and frankly I have a gut filling we'll see it on this weekend.
Yes and that all sounds great. Don't want to have to repeat myself but the blowjob isn't the problem. It's just if the creator wants to keep it all as an extension of their relationship then some simple communication goes a long way. That doesn't mean needing to always ask permission but this was a perfect time to continue their teasing game with the previous event that involved the photoshoot. I will just reiterate, going from tentatively asking if Eric is 100% sure he wants her to fool around in the alley to giving the gawk 9000 without a care in the world is quite the escalation. It's almost like saying let's explore swinging and immediately going to a gangbang.
PS - He did say Eric should be there for her first blowjob given to another guy.
 
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...Once again, how is she acting so nervously about giving a handjob to Eric's best friend that her and Eric have mutually been teasing leading up to this. To then having no problem deepthroating a random guy with Eric having no involvement? That's the problem and completely inconsistent both with the build up of the previous update, the portrayal of the character, and the supposed vibe of their relationship as it has been presented until now...
I can agree with your comment about inconsistency, but...

You said so yourself in this very comment. Her acting nervously about giving a handjob to Eric's best friend is the inconsistent part. Getting into character as a model and not Erik's girlfriend and deepthroating a stranger, where she had previously already been considering being bad in order to get Erik to fuck Ari, is the part that's actually fairly consistent with her corruption buildup.

If you want to maintain consistency, then you don't get rid of the blowjob, you intensify the alley scene.

I hope he doesn't dial down the tone of the last scene.
 

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I can agree with your comment about inconsistency, but...

You said so yourself in this very comment. Her acting nervously about giving a handjob to Eric's best friend is the inconsistent part. Getting into character as a model and not Erik's girlfriend and deepthroating a stranger, where she had previously already been considering being bad in order to get Erik to fuck Ari, is the part that's actually fairly consistent with her corruption buildup.

If you want to maintain consistency, then you don't get rid of the blowjob, you intensify the alley scene.

I hope he doesn't dial down the tone of the last scene.
Without discussing that boundary with Eric beforehand it just becomes cheating. Which apparently is not intended for Vi. Vi even calling out during the scene that they never even discussed doing a nude photoshoot so she's already being bad. With the dialogue between Eric and Ari implying that what Vi has done is basically cheating and she's a slut, which is why Eric gets mad even if it also turns him on. Of course, he said he wants her to be as slutty as she wants but if the intention is that's all a bigger part of their relationship not involving him at all doesn't achieve that. In the end, as I keep saying, scene is fine if it Eric was teased throughout, rather than finding out after from Ari. Could've had her teasing him the entire update as she slowly gets sluttier and sluttier doing the shoot.
 
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Yes and that all sounds great. Don't want to have to repeat myself but the blowjob isn't the problem. It's just if the creator wants to keep it all as an extension of their relationship then some simple communication goes a long way. That doesn't mean needing to always ask permission but this was a perfect time to continue their teasing game with the previous event that involved the photoshoot. I will just reiterate, going from tentatively asking if Eric is 100% sure he wants her to fool around in the alley to giving the gawk 9000 without a care in the world is quite the escalation. It's almost like saying let's explore swinging and immediately going to a gangbang.
PS - He did say Eric should be there for her first blowjob given to another guy.
But why then double standards, if they are such a "Lovey-doveys" why TF Eriks gets a bj from Maki and still quiet about it, almost gets Anya to blow him and of course total inhalation of Ari with ass to mouth?
Overall the scene for me was Soo hot that I became a patron and now can't leave this thread at all, my problem is it ends abruptly without knowing what the hell is actually happened here.
 
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But why then double standards, if they are such a "Lovey-doveys" why TF Eriks gets a bj from Maki and still quiet about it, almost gets Anya do blow him and of course total inhalation of Ari with ass to mouth?
True, that's also a problem and maybe could become a point of drama in the future if he wants to take it that direction.
 

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As one of the people that critiqued the scene and said it felt a bit sudden for her to go that far immediately after last update, you pretty much nailed it. I haven't checked the thread in awhile and it seems things got quite heated over this event. I would say obviously her blowing a guy during a photoshoot because she got horny in a vacuum is hot. However, it just felt odd after how last update ended to have this happen suddenly behind Eric's back. With no teasing, with no asking if he wants her to get spicier, etc. like what happened when she originally sent photos in to Bruce.

Then on top of that the photos are sent not to him but to Ari, where she then teases him with them instead of Vi doing the teasing. The dialogue used here is also very provocative, obviously to make him rage fuck Ari, but everything just made it feel like they are escalating separately, outside of their relationship. When I think a lot of people if not most would rather them both get crazier together. That doesn't mean they always have to be with each other when things happen but some more communication and input/teasing goes a long way as the boundaries get expanded further.
Dude, you completely missed an entire implied point made by Vi before the photoshoot. She was thinking about how she wanted to get Erik to fuck Ari, and she was considering a way to get him to do that. It's implied that she and Ari conspired behind the scenes to set it up this way. I mean, it's obvious! Vi told Erik to go to Ari, and then after he gets there, she starts sending the photos to Ari... I mean, what a coincidence! The entire point was to rile Erik up to get him to fuck Ari. You gotta read between the lines, man. I'm a professional author (pretty successful, too, to be honest), and I've had multiple times where I've set up foreshadowing and implications, only for the readers to not get it at all. And then, if I try to spell every little thing out, the people who do get it will criticize me for holding their hands too much. It's the same thing here. The author intelligently wrote the plot for people to read between the lines without him having to hold our hands. And like I said in a previous comment, the part that's actually inconsistent with the buildup and Vi's character is her being nervous about giving a handjob to Erik's best friend, not the BJ. If you want to make it more consistent, have her suck his buddy of a bit in the alley and not be nervous. She doesn't have to suck him to completion or swallow his cum or anything like that, but you could add a couple licks and sucking the head in front of Erik. Imo, that would be the perfect way to better tie the corruption buildup together.
 

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Without discussing that boundary with Eric beforehand it just becomes cheating. Which apparently is not intended for Vi. Vi even calling out during the scene that they never even discussed doing a nude photoshoot so she's already being bad. With the dialogue between Eric and Ari implying that what Vi has done is basically cheating and she's a slut, which is why Eric gets mad even if it also turns him on. Of course, he said he wants her to be as slutty as she wants but if the intention is that's all a bigger part of their relationship not involving him at all doesn't achieve that. In the end, as I keep saying, scene is fine if it Eric was teased throughout, rather than finding out after from Ari. Could've had her teasing him the entire update as she slowly gets sluttier and sluttier doing the shoot.

Read my next other reply. Erik absolutely is involved. The entire point of her giving the BJ is to rile up Erik to get him to fuck Ari. She told Erik to go to Ari, then sent the photos to Ari. Hmmm.... I wonder why that is? It couldn't possibly be because Vi and Ari talked about a way to get Erik to fuck the shit out of Ari off screen. The author even had foreshadowing (Vi considering it while sitting on the park bench). He's just not holding our hands and spelling every little thing out to us. Personally, I thought it was completely obvious that the intention was to tease Erik in this way.
 

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Read my next other reply. Erik absolutely is involved. The entire point of her giving the BJ is to rile up Erik to get him to fuck Ari. She told Erik to go to Ari, then sent the photos to Ari. Hmmm.... I wonder why that is? It couldn't possibly be because Vi and Ari talked about a way to get Erik to fuck the shit out of Ari off screen. The author even had foreshadowing (Vi considering it while sitting on the park bench). He's just not holding our hands and spelling every little thing out to us. Personally, I thought it was completely obvious that the intention was to tease Erik in this way.
Except the escalation does not happen with his involvement. The whole plot is that it happened behind his back and is being used to rile him up by making him feel like he got cheated on. That seems to be the opposite vibe intended for their relationship.
 
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Except the escalation does not happen with his involvement. The whole plot is that it happened behind his back and is being used to rile him up by making him feel like he got cheated on. That seems to be the opposite vibe intended for their relationship.
But at the end Vi is happy to gobble on some balls and Erik happy cos Vi gobbled some balls + Ari - a win win, nobody felt cheated on.
 

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But at the end Vi is happy to gobble on some balls and Erik happy cos Vi gobbled some balls + Ari
The whole point is that it's supposed to be something they explore together. Otherwise she might as well be any of the other girls fucking the other characters. Also, the entire scene was about implying he got cheated on.
 
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