VN Ren'Py My New Girlfriend [Ch.6 Final] [CircleGames]

[TERES]

Yeah it is that way. A lot of people like how it turned out, but they're not constantly trying to convince people otherwise.

The developer is redoing the scene with Anya, because he didn't like that one as per a post in the off topic thread. He didn't mention a thing about the ending with Vi at the photoshoot.
I don't know how many times I have to say this, but if you pay attention to the dialogue, the build up, Vi's relationship with Arianna, her inner dialogue and her past, you quickly come to realize she's not that innocent, loves attention from other men and is a very sexual creature. You guys are just putting her on a pedestal and projecting some romanticized wholesome vision of her and demand everyone else sees the same thing.

I also happen to think his writing is fine and aligns well with the erotic development of the game. It's just strange to me how some people expect Pulzter prize writing out of adult visual novels and some weird semblance of reality in situations that are far from reality.
Maybe Morning Glory Milking Farm is more your speed.

I don't see where he agrees on Vi's scene being mishandled. Can only repeat myself; I'd suggest playing through Ch05 again in case you've only been playing the initial release version.

What I think was "mishandled" is the cliffhanger we're left on. But as I said before, I'm assuming that happened because CG bit off more than he could chew in the time he gave himself and so it's missing the conclusion, a true ending to the scene and more fleshed out explanation as to what's going on.

He did work on the final scene, that much we do know.

You must be registered to see the links

I'm starting today the planning of the Silver Update after a little rest.

First Change - The images I did on Photoshop for the Ari ridding scene are great but the facial expression that got animated doesn't work well animated in my opinion so I'm doing a upgrade on that to improve the quality of the scene, on top of that, when Ari switches holes the last animation isn't up to par with the quality of the other animations, that animations was done twice by mutiple animators and I had to use the best one for the release but I will rework it and have it animated again until it matches the quality of the scene.

Second Change - I want to to extend the scene with more renders and add a aftermath of the scene. Plus I wanna change a bit the tone of the scene especially with Vi as I believe that her first oral scene with another person should be in front of Eric. So I will tune her renders as well to match the slowburning pace that the project aims for.

 

[PsyDoggo]

The teasing him about her being nothing but a slut is fine if he was also teased by her escalating behavior during the photoshoot. That's some nice little NTS spice but since it happened fully behind his back with a major escalation happening without him involved the vibes are off at this point in their relationship. If this had happened after they had already had her blow another guy it would be completely fine. Also, I am just saying all of this because it was said that Vi and Eric's relationship is supposed to never be awkward/in danger and purely about NTS/swinging.

I'm not trying to be mean, a little sarcastic and I get your point, but I like to take things that are happening as reading the book and not considering tags at all, such escalations could bring some drama to relation, they might have a talk later, share misstakes with each other, bring some more boundaries and become even stroger as a pair. Only from contrast we may feel full specter of emothions.

 

[Nex]

I'm not trying to be mean, a little sarcastic and I get your point, but I like to take things that are happening as reading the book and not considering tags at all, such escalations could bring some drama to relation, they might have a talk later, share misstakes with each other, bring some more boundaries and become even stroger as a pair. Only from contrast we may feel full specter of emothions.

I am not talking about tags specifically but what was stated previously in development. The issue with the scene as is, and I know stating this will make some people mad, is she basically did cheat. As the omniscient readers we can know what her intention is but looking at it from a character perspective it is essentially cheating. She still deepthroated a guy behind his back without his input or even a hint she was planning on doing it. Of course, Eric is not exactly a boy scout for the same reason with his escapades but that's also the struggle of him needing to be an MC in a porn game. At the end of the day it comes down to the intention of the writer, could've spun it into her getting "punished" later for "cheating" but apparently that wasn't the intention here based on dev post.

 

[PsyDoggo]

I am not talking about tags specifically but what was stated previously in development. The issue with the scene as is, and I know stating this will make some people mad, is she basically did cheat. As the omniscient readers we can know what her intention is but looking at it from a character perspective it is essentially cheating. She still deepthroated a guy behind his back without his input or even a hint she was planning on doing it. Of course, Eric is not exactly a boy scout for the same reason with his escapades but that's also the struggle of him needing to be an MC in a porn game. At the end of the day it comes down to the intention of the writer, could've spun it into her getting "punished" later for "cheating" but apparently that wasn't the intention here based on dev post.

From a traditional point of view on relations, that would be concidered as cheating(same as with Maki going to repeat) yes, you could be right, but from a perspective of a porn game and from the fact that the whole scene silmontanuosly unfolds with Erik doing his thing to Ari, it should be considered as two negatives giving a plus(mb it's only me thinking that way). Let them explore, give more space, they are newly made couple and are allowed to make mistakes even if those are an intentional ones.

 

[Nex]

From a traditional point of view on relations, that would be concidered as cheating(same as with Maki going to repeat) yes, you could be right, but from a perspective of a porn game and from the fact that the whole scene silmontanuosly unfolds with Erik doing his thing to Ari, it should be considered as two negatives giving a plus(mb it's only me thinking that way). Let them explore, give more space, they are newly made couple and are allowed to make mistakes even if those are an intentional ones.

Which is why I brought up the intention behind the writing. Apparently their relationship is supposed to be a rock with no questionable drama. If that's the case, then for a nts/open relationship, communication is key and there wasn't communication here. That's also a problem with Eric's side of things though.

 

[Alluman]

Most players are discussing the blowjob scene with Vi, although we can't say for sure if it actually happened, since we don't have the full picture of what occurred.
My attention was more drawn to Vi's thoughts, where she apologizes to Erik for not being able to control herself when she's given orders.
So, does that mean anyone with a dick can order her around, and she can't resist because she enjoys it?
If I understand correctly, has the degradation to the level of a dumb whore begun?
It seems there are already enough whores in this game.
I'm not criticizing, I'm just curious about the direction the plot is taking.
I'm ready for anything.

 

[PsyDoggo]

Most players are discussing the blowjob scene with Vi, although we can't say for sure if it actually happened, since we don't have the full picture of what occurred.
My attention was more drawn to Vi's thoughts, where she apologizes to Erik for not being able to control herself when she's given orders.
So, does that mean anyone with a dick can order her around, and she can't resist because she enjoys it?
If I understand correctly, has the degradation to the level of a dumb whore begun?
It seems there are already enough whores in this game.
I'm not criticizing, I'm just curious about the direction the plot is taking.
I'm ready for anything.

We are yet to behold what will happen with Vi, Im going to be happy with almost all routs except vanilla/romance(too boring), but I want to be blueball teased in the process in a best way CG can offer it.

 

[Nex]

Most players are discussing the blowjob scene with Vi, although we can't say for sure if it actually happened, since we don't have the full picture of what occurred.
My attention was more drawn to Vi's thoughts, where she apologizes to Erik for not being able to control herself when she's given orders.
So, does that mean anyone with a dick can order her around, and she can't resist because she enjoys it?
If I understand correctly, has the degradation to the level of a dumb whore begun?
It seems there are already enough whores in this game.
I'm not criticizing, I'm just curious about the direction the plot is taking.
I'm ready for anything.

Based on the dev update it's safe to say that it was her before the new changes coming in. We also have some unused images from the update in the game files that show her exiting the changing room with the outfit and wig. As you say, her thoughts were also more like the stereotypical slut that will fuck whoever if she's horny, Eric be damned. Which is my point about the vibes being totally off with the whole scene and how it played out.

 

[PsyDoggo]

Based on the dev update it's safe to say that it was her before the new changes coming in. We also have some unused images from the update in the game files that show her exiting the changing room with the outfit and wig. As you say, her thoughts were also more like the stereotypical slut that will fuck whoever if she's horny, Eric be damned. Which is my point about the vibes being totally off with the whole scene and how it played out.

I think we need some women's opinion on that matter ASAP, but try to imagine, you are Vi, yesterday you sucked your bf cock with your bff, constantly talking and thinking about sex(more than sex, pervetred debauchery), you like to see your bf fucks around and you know that he enjoyes it, and vise versa, you already had a 1st shoot with all conciquences, you are on your way to another and want to bring higher stakes to be noticed, the shoot is a kinky fiesta(you love it as Vi) and with all that pent-up sexual energy and frustration you may fuck even a doorknob and feel great about it. I'm going to sound gay and that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make to prove my point, if I was on Violet place I wouln't only stop on sucking some dick. I think there is no human beeing that could've withstand that lvl of lust at the moment.

 

[Alluman]

We are yet to behold what will happen with Vi, Im going to be happy with almost all routs except vanilla/romance(too boring), but I want to be blueball teased in the process in a best way CG can offer it.

I understand you, I also like that kind of teasing. However, for it to work, you need an interesting plot and depth. It just doesn't do much for me if it's only about watching Vi sleep with strangers because she's turned on, or Eric, who can't simply say "no" when girls take his pants off. You, like me, are tired of standard games, so you must understand what I'm talking about.

 

[PsyDoggo]

I understand you, I also like that kind of teasing. However, for it to work, you need an interesting plot and depth. It just doesn't do much for me if it's only about watching Vi sleep with strangers because she's turned on, or Eric, who can't simply say "no" when girls take his pants off. You, like me, are tired of standard games, so you must understand what I'm talking about.

I don't really think that we are on that boring trope yet, I undertsand your concern. I believe that is not CGs intention at all, he knows what he is doing, he just didn't quite handled it the way it should've been handled to maximum extent and that's why we have a rework.

 

[Alluman]

Based on the dev update it's safe to say that it was her before the new changes coming in. We also have some unused images from the update in the game files that show her exiting the changing room with the outfit and wig. As you say, her thoughts were also more like the stereotypical slut that will fuck whoever if she's horny, Eric be damned. Which is my point about the vibes being totally off with the whole scene and how it played out.

Oh, I see. Thanks for the info, I was completely in the dark about this. My assumption was that it was simply a complex ploy by the Author.

 

[palmtrees89]

You can keep passively aggressively saying I am playing wrong but again, I would suggest you replay her scene in the alley with Eric. Once again, how is she acting so nervously about giving a handjob to Eric's best friend that her and Eric have mutually been teasing leading up to this. To then having no problem deepthroating a random guy with Eric having no involvement?

How am I passive aggressive? We simply disagree, and I've made the suggestion to replay DLC #2 as they do have yet another conversation about their relationship dynamic. Vi wants to go further and she's enjoying it. We're clearly reading her body language (and again, dialogues lol) differently. And guess what... that is totally fine.

Seeing Teres post, CG actually does somewhat agree with your take on the blowjob. So yeah, what I said previously is wrong. Me personally I think the progress was fine, issue to me was how the scene is build as we're kinda in the dark on Vi's + Ari's "plan" and how it plays out - or rather how it didn't play out considering the cliffhanger.

 

[SoaringClouds]

...The issue with the scene as is, and I know stating this will make some people mad, is she basically did cheat. As the omniscient readers we can know what her intention is but looking at it from a character perspective it is essentially cheating. She still deepthroated a guy behind his back (emphasis mine) without his input or even a hint she was planning on doing it...

See, we're not going to come to a consense because I fundamentally disagree with this statement. In my perspective, she didn't do it behind his back. She only did it when he wasn't present (which is the problem CG has with it being the first oral scene. He wants the first oral scene to be in his presence. IMO, the better solution is for her to blow Sai in the alleyway and not get rid of the photoshoot blowjob). Not being present and behind the back are two distinctly different things. She did it right up front and in his face, what with how she orchestrated him getting the photos of her doing it. You said they haven't talked about this, but they kind of have. He's obviously implied he wishes to see her do this (on multiple different occasions), and so she did it. I think it's a rather intelligent, unique way to do the NTS for her boyfriend.

 

[Nex]

Not being present and behind the back are two distinctly different things

She literally says they never talked about going even as far as getting nude during the shoot. Then her own commentary is that she just can't stop herself because she's so turned on which leads to the deepthroating. It wasn't being presented as being done for her boyfriend at all in that moment. So yeah, agree to disagree.

 

[SoaringClouds]

She literally says they never talked about going even as far as getting nude during the shoot. Then her own commentary is that she just can't stop herself because she's so turned on which leads to the deepthroating. It wasn't being presented as being done for her boyfriend at all in that moment. So yeah, agree to disagree.

Except we know that's not true, because she planned the whole teasing Eric with the photos via sending them to Ari. Even with "not being able to control herself" Eric was still first and foremost in her mind. She was constantly thinking of him. Also, sure, they haven't specifically mentioned doing nudes or giving BJs to other guys, but they have discussed the kink fairly extensively, and Eric has mentioned multiple times that he wants her to go further. That doesn't count for nothing. Maybe it's not explicit-enough permission for you, personally, but I think it's fine, and the characters probably do, too.

 

[dexterousgecko]

one thing I don't like is the idea of Eric being "eh, I'm not comfortable with this" Vi : "omg, you totally are, you want me to fuck everyone"

Like what? At this point, that isn't remotely sharing, that's just her pushing her own fantasies onto someone else. That's not swinging, that's just straight up cheating/ntr.

 

[yourmomma]

Hardly has anything to do with her needing to be pure but rather having a consistent character. Also, it was previously stated that Vi and Eric would maintain their relationship and that it wouldn't just be her becoming a wanton slut leaving Eric behind. As far as having bad writing because it's porn, that excuse is nonsensical. As well as acting as if people can't critique poor writing in general or that certain writing shouldn't be adjusted. There's a reason every professional writer has to work with an editor.

You can keep passively aggressively saying I am playing wrong but again, I would suggest you replay her scene in the alley with Eric. Once again, how is she acting so nervously about giving a handjob to Eric's best friend that her and Eric have mutually been teasing leading up to this. To then having no problem deepthroating a random guy with Eric having no involvement? That's the problem and completely inconsistent both with the build up of the previous update, the portrayal of the character, and the supposed vibe of their relationship as it has been presented until now. I get certain people just want as many gonzo sex scenes as possible in every game, which is fine, but there's also plenty of other mediums that provide that. In the case of visual novels/erotica like this, the difference maker is the writing and story.

Again if you're paying attention the setup is for them to have an open relationship.

Eric is often times fantasizing about Vi with other men. He's clearing dtf other women, without Vi,s permission and Vi is just assuming she has Erik's permission to go forward.

My complaint isn't that you're playing the game wrong. My complaint is that you're attaching erroneous feelings towards characters.

It is in fact ridiculous to hold porn game writers to the same standards as literature writers. Their entire premise is outside the boundaries of reality and deals strictly in the realm of fantasy.

 

[yourmomma]

You must be registered to see the links

I'm starting today the planning of the Silver Update after a little rest.

First Change - The images I did on Photoshop for the Ari ridding scene are great but the facial expression that got animated doesn't work well animated in my opinion so I'm doing a upgrade on that to improve the quality of the scene, on top of that, when Ari switches holes the last animation isn't up to par with the quality of the other animations, that animations was done twice by mutiple animators and I had to use the best one for the release but I will rework it and have it animated again until it matches the quality of the scene.

Second Change - I want to to extend the scene with more renders and add a aftermath of the scene. Plus I wanna change a bit the tone of the scene especially with Vi as I believe that her first oral scene with another person should be in front of Eric. So I will tune her renders as well to match the slowburning pace that the project aims for.
View attachment 5352048 View attachment 5352046 View attachment 5352047

Right and in combination with what he said in the off topic discussion he's not saying he's getting rid of the scene simply that he's changing the pace and going to include Erik somehow.

Just purely on speculation that can easily be accomplished with a short scene where VI and Erik have a conversation about the photoshoot and its pace and Eirk mentions it turns him on.

Or as speculated earlier the texts aren't Vi at all, but her porn star doppelganger and Arianna is just playing with Eirk's head.

We won't really know until the release.

 

[SoaringClouds]

Right and in combination with what he said in the off topic discussion he's not saying he's getting rid of the scene simply that he's changing the pace and going to include Erik somehow.

Just purely on speculation that can easily be accomplished with a short scene where VI and Erik have a conversation about the photoshoot and its pace and Eirk mentions it turns him on.

Or as speculated earlier the texts aren't Vi at all, but her porn star doppelganger and Arianna is just playing with Eirk's head.

We won't really know until the release.

Nah, he's pretty much confirmed that it is Vi with this post, and the idea that he has isn't that they need to have a conversation about it, but that he wants Eric to be physically present for the first time Vi messes around with another guy. That would mean getting rid of the BJ, having Eric go to the photoshoot instead of to Ari, or (and this is my personal preference) he could add a BJ scene between Vi and Sai in the alleyway previously. Imo, that solves the problem without needing to delete anything that he's already published.